Radiohead - In Rainbows

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Oooh - I already miss this series of articles and it's not even finished yet!

StanM, Monday, 8 October 2007 20:38 (sixteen years ago) link

"remember when ned did that great series of posts leading up to in rainbows?"

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 8 October 2007 20:53 (sixteen years ago) link

I remember it like it was just yesterday.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 8 October 2007 21:06 (sixteen years ago) link

'Countdown to IN RAINBOWS' = Da Capo Best Music Writing nominee?

stephen, Monday, 8 October 2007 21:56 (sixteen years ago) link

that would be awes.

I have a pretty major take-home exam coming up that's going to last from Thursday to Sunday. I have no idea how the hell I'm going to be able to focus on it if In Rainbows does come out tomorrow. Fuck. Everything from the big announcement to Ned's countdown (my problem, obv, not Ned's) has gotten me way more hyped up for this than I would have been.

Seriously considering waiting until after the weekend to hear it, and steering clear of any music sites including this one in the meantime. The problem is I don't know if I'm going to be able to do it argh.

Roz, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 02:36 (sixteen years ago) link

What's the exam?

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 02:42 (sixteen years ago) link

Legal ethics. It shouldn't be a particularly difficult paper but I haven't started studying for it due to a bunch of other commitments.

Roz, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 02:50 (sixteen years ago) link

Oops, that would do it. (I've been there...)

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 02:52 (sixteen years ago) link

uh huh. lolcollege

;__;

Roz, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 02:57 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm curious if at this point there's any fans that do expect this band to progress in a new direction. I've always seen (as with the majority, I think) that Hail To The Thief was a comfort record; an album made by musicians still bitter and passionate, but with the more modest goal of funneling that passion into a collection of great songs. Sans overriding statement or unexpected left turns. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if In Rainbows turns out similar in that regard. In fact I'd be totally content with that.

Cosmo Vitelli, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 05:37 (sixteen years ago) link

I've held off from tracking all the 'new' songs (partially because I missed last year's tour -- about which more tomorrow on the blog), so hard to say on my end, but I'd want to hope for a break/progression similar between OK C and Kid A. Guess we'll find out.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 05:40 (sixteen years ago) link

I haven't the slightest idea what to expect, but that didn't stop me paying 3.14 pounds.

bernard snowy, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 06:05 (sixteen years ago) link

I'd want to hope for a break/progression similar between OK C and Kid A.

I think that's expecting too much at this stage, but if it happens I'll probably be skipping through meadows and flinging out daisies/kissing hummingbirds.

Cosmo Vitelli, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 06:30 (sixteen years ago) link

THANK YOU FOR ORDERING IN RAINBOWS. THIS IS AN UPDATE.

YOUR UNIQUE ACTIVATION CODE(S) WILL BE SENT OUT TOMORROW MORNING (UK TIME). THIS WILL TAKE YOU STRAIGHT TO THE DOWNLOAD AREA.

HERE IS SOME INFORMATION ABOUT THE DOWNLOAD:

THE ALBUM WILL COME AS A 48.4MB ZIP FILE CONTAINING 10 X 160KBPS DRM FREE MP3s.

MOST COMPUTERS NOW HAVE ZIP SOFTWARE AS PART OF THE OPERATING SYSTEM; IF YOUR COMPUTER DOES NOT, YOU NEED TO GET WINZIP OR ZIPIT INSTALLED PRIOR.

YOU CAN DOWNLOAD THEM HERE:

PC: http://www.winzip.com/
MAC: http://www.maczipit.com/

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR PROBLEMS DOWNLOADING YOUR FILE, PLEASE CONTACT OUR DOWNLOAD CUSTOMER SERVICE TEAM AT downloadinrainb✧✧✧@wa✧✧✧.u✧.c✧✧

stephen, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 14:49 (sixteen years ago) link

"Stop whispering, start shouting" indeed.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 14:54 (sixteen years ago) link

160kbps? Wish they'd said that before I paid money.

mh, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 15:00 (sixteen years ago) link

It says 10 x 160 KBPS! That's like... 1600 kbps! wow!

StanM, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 15:00 (sixteen years ago) link

That puts the album at 46-48 mins, methinks. Yay calculators!

Simon H., Tuesday, 9 October 2007 15:03 (sixteen years ago) link

i thought it means ten (10) songs at 160kbps each...

stephen, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 15:20 (sixteen years ago) link

(I was just kidding, but thanks for explaining anyway) :-/

StanM, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 15:21 (sixteen years ago) link

I just got that update mail as well.

StanM, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 15:42 (sixteen years ago) link

160kbps = ass.

caek, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 15:50 (sixteen years ago) link

Probably what they were figuring in terms of demand vs. server capacity or something, who knows. And if you got it for free, you got what you paid for.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 15:56 (sixteen years ago) link

(Personally I'm thinking that the final CD release will actually be a different mix or something similar.)

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 15:57 (sixteen years ago) link

I came across this Thom Yorke article from last year, which in hindsight is kind of interesting, if only because it's clear they've been thinking about this whole thing for a long time now.

Radiohead hasn't resolved the question of how to release its new material. Although it seems that every last one of Radiohead's American and European fans is online, Mr. Yorke ruled out purely digital distribution because fans elsewhere -- Russia or South America, for instance -- are not so well connected. A company still needs to press CD's and get them to stores. ''The truth is that the traditional medium is still there, and you need it,'' he says.

Radiohead has been one of the holdouts against having their music sold on iTunes, Apple's online music store, because, Mr. Yorke says, ''the record companies basically don't want to pay the artists at all for the downloading.'' Without a contract, it can decide exactly how it wants to sell its recordings, which has left the band with ''too many variables,'' he adds.

''We were having endless debates, spending entire afternoons talking about, 'Well, if we do something, how do we put it out?' '' he recalls.'' It just became this endless and pointless discussion. Because in our dreams, it would be really nice to just let off this enormous stink bomb in the industry.''

Eventually the band simply decided to postpone any decision about recordings, although it has decided to own its recordings and license them for distribution rather than signing a standard recording contract.

''When we have something,'' he says with a shrug, ''then we'll find whatever seems the most appropriate way to put it out.''

He adds: ''I'm not really into the idea of picking an enormous fight now because I think the structure of the music business is in a state of collapse anyway. You might as well just let it get on with it. There's no point in us trying to help. And it makes you sound really arrogant, like, 'Yeah, we're going to mess up the system.' The system's built us, so that would be a bit silly, wouldn't it?''

Roz, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 16:17 (sixteen years ago) link

Hopefully people who paid the most get emailed first so they can download it before the server melts.

Then all the people who paid nothing, or virtually nothing, can attack it en masse twelve hours later when whoever's hosting it has limited the connection speeds.

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 16:19 (sixteen years ago) link

Somewhat against the spirit of the event isn't it?

Matt DC, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 16:26 (sixteen years ago) link

Frankly I might just get it on Soulseek.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 16:26 (sixteen years ago) link

160!!! that's kinda bullshit

akm, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 16:26 (sixteen years ago) link

Yeah...I do feel bad for those who paid more than a few bucks to get a poor quality download. 192 is pretty much the bare minimum these days, isn't it? They should have made it clear from the beginning that it was 160.

Z S, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 16:51 (sixteen years ago) link

I was waiting to hear what the bitrate was before deciding how much to pay. Having heard, I am paying nothing.

caek, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 16:52 (sixteen years ago) link

Hahahaha, I am so glad I didn't pay, now! Shame on you Radiohead!

Davey D, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 16:54 (sixteen years ago) link

Damn, I really hate that it had to be a low quality download, just because now it's going to shift from a "Radiohead sets off a landmine in the music industry" to a "Radiohead screw over their biggest fans with a shit quality download" type of story, for some people.

Z S, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 16:58 (sixteen years ago) link

fella i know at work: "are you gonna download that new radiohead album?"

me: "nah, i'm not really into them."

"yeah, but it's free."

"but what would be the point? i'm not a fan."

"you may as well have a listen, it won't cost you anything."

"there's already way more music on peer to peer that i might like and haven't gotten around to listening to yet, that's always going to take priority, isn't it?"

"yeah...but it's radiohead."

: \

max r, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 17:00 (sixteen years ago) link

last 5 posts otm :/
xpost

sleep, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 17:01 (sixteen years ago) link

I actually don't think the low bitrate is "unfair," just that it kind of sucks for the time being. So many people, the bigger fans, have said that they are going to buy the regular version when it comes out anyway, so this is just more of an incentive. That said, it does suck for the people who decided to pay more for the mp3s.

iTunes only has 128 kbps files right? So this may be better than that...

jonathan - stl, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 17:03 (sixteen years ago) link

radiohead money grabbing bastards after all shocker

max r, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 17:03 (sixteen years ago) link

look who is on the front cover of the NME this week:

http://www.nme.com/images/thums/84_radioheadcovermagbits_01.jpg

djmartian, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 17:04 (sixteen years ago) link

I am quite possibly being too optimistic with this though.

jonathan - stl, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 17:04 (sixteen years ago) link

I was wondering what iTunes uses. I'm fine with those.

Jordan, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 17:04 (sixteen years ago) link

DRM-free on iTunes (and Amazon, I think) is 256kbps. DRM on iTunes is 128, but that's AAC rather than MP3. Probably equivalent to a 160-192kbps MP3.

caek, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 17:05 (sixteen years ago) link

DRM-free on Bleep is either something like 256 or FLAC (i.e. lossless).

caek, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 17:05 (sixteen years ago) link

DRM-free on iTunes (and Amazon, I think) is 256kbps. DRM on iTunes is 128

How do you distinguish between the two on iTunes?

Jordan, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 17:07 (sixteen years ago) link

i was totally expecting them to offer like, choice of FLAC or LAME VBR V0. durr

sleep, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 17:08 (sixteen years ago) link

It's too bad they couldn't have arranged it so that those who opted for a free download got the lower quality version, while those who paid a bit more would get a higher quality download. Especially for those who paid 8 dollars and up for the download, they should get a 256 or 320kbps download, I think.

Z S, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 17:08 (sixteen years ago) link

The DRM-free high-quality files will be tagged as "itunes plus" and have a little + in a grey box next to them in the pricing field.

xpost

Telephone thing, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 17:10 (sixteen years ago) link

Yeah...I do feel bad for those who paid more than a few bucks to get a poor quality download. 192 is pretty much the bare minimum these days, isn't it? They should have made it clear from the beginning that it was 160.

-- Z S, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 16:51

This is pretty much OTM for me. I'd like to get defensive and suggest that from some sort of "self-preservation" standpoint this makes sense, but no.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 17:11 (sixteen years ago) link

I seriously can't believe everyone's getting all worked up over all this! Then again I just muttered in an Idolator comment that really it's just showing how levels of expectation have shifted. This is so much sound and fury over nothing.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 17:16 (sixteen years ago) link

Inevitable backlash, I suppose.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 17:26 (sixteen years ago) link

160kbps isn't nearly as bad as you guys are making it out to be.

circa1916, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 17:30 (sixteen years ago) link


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