WTF with Marc Maron (it's a podcast)

It was really thrilling because you hardly ever experience someone figuring out themselves right in front you, and finding the words to say all those things he has never been able to.

OTMFM. What a great episode. I want to talk about it for hours.

I'm glad I'm not the only one! Have y'all heard his "follow-up" on his own podcast? In some ways it's much less interesting because it doesn't have that same sense of urgency, even if it has his same manic passion. There is a bit of progression re: his comfort level, though Sarah Silverman guests and provides a nice counterpart in a different way from Maron; where he tried to prod him through his process, she seems to gently confront him on some of his stances.

Todd's episode with Chelsea Peretti was great, especially her Home Shopping bits.

Thanks for the tip, Billy - I will check out Glass's podcst. I'd like to hear the followup!

Sure! I'd be interested to see how you respond to it vs. the Maron one, since it seems to be more about refining his language/views than figuring them out, which is part of what made the Maron interview so exciting. At the very least, he seems like a fascinating, complicated guy.

I've been meaning to listen to that episode w/ Peretti. I assume anyone who writes for Parks & Recreation is going to be hysterical.

The glee with which Maron and Jimmy Kimmel discussed the night Jimmy went on Jay Leno's 10pm show and publicly shamed him to his face and to the audience's approval was so fun to listen to. Otherwise, Jimmy Kimmel is fairly uninteresting.

The viciousness with which Kimmel treated Leno that night was pretty damn great. In case you've never seen the clip:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axwO6BkCtIo

fuck this matt graham guy. wanted to yell at him several times "maybe all this bad stuff happens to you cause you are an insufferable prick" and then he breaks out that he feels that all women are satan's helpers here to suck the life out of me. good luck on okcupid, dickhead.

lol. 1 of my takeaways from it was at least he used 2 take ghb himself rather than dose chix w/ it

I bailed halfway through because I was getting a real whiney woe is me vibe from him...is it worth listening all the way through?

it got WAY worse. Stay away.

Looking forward to tomorrow, though.

Bill Lawrence. I hope he talks less about Scrubs and Cougar Town and more about Clone High!

What does that voice that sounds like Don Pardo in the intro say? Sounds like "uh-ma-JOOK-ee-ev" and drives me nuts!

double you tee eff

It's Nick Kroll as El Chubacapra saying W T F with a spanishy twist, lol

drove me nuts for a longtime too

I think it was from this appearance

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_frQMqxdvUw

Jo soy un bay beeeee

I could watch that clip all day

It's weird to actually see Nick doing this stuff

Thanks Janet

Funny, I've never seen Maron's recording setup before that clip.

bill lawrence ep was great, although idgaf abt any show hes ever done

didnt know his wife is christa miller! v jealous tbh

I love that Marc Maron does his podcast on a Powerbook and the same p.o.s. Ikea table that I have.

I love that the whole premise of Cougar Town was devised as a hilarious joke, and that ABC was all over it.

Twitter says he's interviewing Wayne Coyne today!

Bill Maher on Thurs!

I loved the Bill Lawrence interview, dude seemed v cool

The Nick Lowe interview is relaxing.

I'm looking forward to it!

i've been enjoying wtf a lot lately, but wow that matt graham interview was just torturous.

I skipped Graham. Nick Lowe was fun, but Marc was steering the convo too much toward Elvis Costello (even after he apologized for doing it).

I feel like Maron sometimes has trouble listening to people not from his world of stand-up. He kept kind of finishing sentences for Lowe incorrectly and trying to steer him toward stuff he was familiar with or already had a mythology about. His attention seems to flag when someone is going away from the direction he wants them to go.

Yeah, he's better than he was but def with "outsider" guests like Lowe it's clear you'll never get the interview you want from Maron. Not that it's a bad thing, per se.

The thing with Nick Lowe wasn't so much Maron's Costello worship, even though Lowe deserves a huge amount of credit for producing This Year's Model alone, it was Marc trying to steer the conversation toward addiction, and Lowe being totally uninterested in the topic. He's just not a guy with that many problems. He's an older gentleman. And though you can't see it in the interview, obviously, he has the most striking head of snow-white hair in all of music. We should all go grey so gracefully.

i haven't listened to any nick lowe (or much elvis costello), but there's a good interview with him in last month's Tape Op.

maron is pretty overrated as an interviewer in general imo. i've talked about it before, but he'll constantly steer the conversation to his bugbear topics even when they've been hashed out, try to fit everything into his "i used to hate you but now we're cool" paradigm even when it doesn't fit, tells the same stories he's told 10 times before, etc. he pretty much gets by on his connections and (now) his reputation. he's best when he realizes that he's got a good interesting guest, asks simple questions, and lets the guest talk (like steven wright, norm macdonald) but when it's someone he's not connected to or doesn't know about, he panics and reverts to his boring, annoying tricks.

I'd agree with much of that. I haven't heard the Lowe interview b/c I don't have much interest in listening to Marc Maron interview musicians.

but i also don't find maron particularly likeable or charming so ymmv i guess

The thing with Nick Lowe wasn't so much Maron's Costello worship, even though Lowe deserves a huge amount of credit for producing This Year's Model alone, it was Marc trying to steer the conversation toward addiction, and Lowe being totally uninterested in the topic. He's just not a guy with that many problems.

I wonder in some of the interviews if Maron makes connections through AA/NA--because he can have guests who have cleaned up, but it's just not something they talk about publicly.

I mean, alcohol/recovery is a big part of Lowe's songwriting, but I assume he's fine just talking about it indirectly that way.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HO4mTPJUMw

i think the problem is musicians just generally aren't as big into talking/self-revelation as comedians

Also culturally as an older Britisher, (or non-LA person more specifically) probably not v interested in the navel-gazing recovery-talk in general

agreed. i'm getting tired of hearing about it.

He's worse than Terry Gross loving to talk about sickness and death.

That said, his talk with Russell Brand on the topics of addiction and recovery was totally absorbing, probably because he had such a willing and entertaining interviewee.

The whole bit about how you don't need to nurture your inner child, you need to send it to military school -- great stuff.

Dr. Steve was the best

I should revisit that one. I think I must have been trying to read something at the same time I was listening to it, which never works out.

Bill Maher was boring, and Marc seems to imply that he was a bit strong-armed. Taken not into the house, but to some vague place on the property, and had to wait for him to show up, like Maher was a doctor or a monarch or something. There are SO many things I wanted to hear Bill Maher talk about. Like, for instance, what's with the Playboy shit?

i cant stand bill maher in general

Right, but I wanted to know more about WHY he's so intolerable.

Yeah, if it isn't that good of an interview, I'll just skip that episode because the thought of listened to Maher speak that long makes me ill. Such a smug, self-satisfied douche.