half an album of vacuum cleaning would still make it better than the record they made with Gary Cherone.
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 22:27 (twelve years ago) link
agreed
― Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 22:27 (twelve years ago) link
Now that sounds like Van Halen.
I love how the band was still cribbing from the vaults as late as "1984." Cheap Trick should have known better than to blow its backlog wad so early ...
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 26 January 2012 01:12 (twelve years ago) link
YES! The boogie is back.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyuXCfKzfko
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 26 January 2012 02:32 (twelve years ago) link
I like "Tattoo," much better than expected too -- sorry.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 26 January 2012 02:35 (twelve years ago) link
Man, that part where it kicks in at 1:10 on Stay Frosty and the acoustic guitar is in this weird time signature relative to the full-band punches is KILL-ER!
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 26 January 2012 03:04 (twelve years ago) link
Snippet of "The Trouble With Never" at Amazon UK: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0071GGIPC/ref=dm_dp_trk2?ie=UTF8&qid=1327529944&sr=8-1
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 26 January 2012 03:08 (twelve years ago) link
YES!!!!!!!!!!! Van Halen is back, jack!!
― SeanWayne, Thursday, 26 January 2012 03:10 (twelve years ago) link
I saw those club clips and was stoked, I liked the new song they played at that gig, but got leary when I heard Tattoo, although that fucking song gets stuck in my head rigght away when I hear it, but hearing these snippits I'm stoked again... Van Fuckin Halen, motherfuckers!!
― SeanWayne, Thursday, 26 January 2012 03:12 (twelve years ago) link
This stuff is...okay. But "Stay Frosty" in particular is really missing Michael Anthony when the full band kicks in.
― 誤訳侮辱, Thursday, 26 January 2012 03:22 (twelve years ago) link
Get over it... Michael Anthony is not coming back.. this is the closest its gonna be to the real Van Halen.. And Wolfy, well if I can't have Michael Anthony, I'd rather have another Van Halen in the band. Missing his high pitched backups, although great, is a small price to pay to have Alex throughing down those HUGE back beats, Dave, one of the best frontmen of all time, and Eddie doing the most head chopping shit he can! I'll fucking take it!!
― SeanWayne, Thursday, 26 January 2012 03:27 (twelve years ago) link
i would never have imagined that 2012 was the year i'd get back into halen
― this is funny u bitter dork (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 26 January 2012 05:01 (twelve years ago) link
Man, Michael Anthony blows. I guess I miss his vox, but not his plodding bass playing, and Wolfy does fine with both of those things.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 26 January 2012 19:45 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ewsHwVOyyE
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 26 January 2012 19:47 (twelve years ago) link
UM HOLY SHIT Y'ALL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FZCwTsoQMs
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 27 January 2012 16:47 (twelve years ago) link
honestly totally shocked at the quality of this new stuff
― Full Frontal Newtity (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 27 January 2012 16:50 (twelve years ago) link
I'm happy to say these further leaks are less embarrassing then I expected or that "Tattoo" lead me to fear. However, I'm not digging the obvious vocal cut and pasting in both "Stay Frosty" and "China Town". Dave can't fit the lines in and still breathe, and the word crunch of that effect really bothers me.
― EZ Snappin, Friday, 27 January 2012 16:54 (twelve years ago) link
Crazytr...I mean Chinatown sounds great!
― this is funny u bitter dork (forksclovetofu), Friday, 27 January 2012 18:07 (twelve years ago) link
I really do not like "The Trouble with Never". sounds like stripper rock with a forgettable chorus.
― Neanderthal, Sunday, 29 January 2012 18:22 (twelve years ago) link
Chinatown, on the other hand....is sweet.
― Neanderthal, Sunday, 29 January 2012 18:23 (twelve years ago) link
Tattoo is boring.
― Neanderthal, Sunday, 29 January 2012 18:25 (twelve years ago) link
Stay Frosty is fan-fucking-tastic.
― Neanderthal, Sunday, 29 January 2012 18:26 (twelve years ago) link
VH practically invented "stripper rock" so that doesn't work as an insult
― markarles (some dude), Sunday, 29 January 2012 18:30 (twelve years ago) link
Trouble with Never is bad stripper rock, let me put it that way. too generic 'lol-80s'.
― Neanderthal, Sunday, 29 January 2012 18:32 (twelve years ago) link
stuff like Chinatown will have my ear tho
― Neanderthal, Sunday, 29 January 2012 18:33 (twelve years ago) link
I am getting closer and closer to buying this album day of release. If Best Buy has it for $9.99 (or less), I'm sold.
― 誤訳侮辱, Sunday, 29 January 2012 19:14 (twelve years ago) link
wouldn't be surprised if they stock racks and racks and sell it for 7.99 the first week.
― Neanderthal, Sunday, 29 January 2012 19:17 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah, now that I've heard 90 seconds of The Trouble With Never vs the 30 seconds I heard the other day, it's kinda dire. I may appreciate it more in the context of the album, though...who knows. I already like Tattoo more than I originally did.
― Johnny Fever, Sunday, 29 January 2012 21:36 (twelve years ago) link
Beats Workin'https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIq9CYP2JEQ
Big Riverhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aFu5oZtGLI
Outta Spacehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6ZyoKbPOMw
As Ishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JKk0EfR0RM
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 30 January 2012 18:07 (twelve years ago) link
"Outta Space" makes a reference to a "facebook page" smh
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 30 January 2012 18:11 (twelve years ago) link
"Big River" is the first song preview that makes me want to hear the whole thing.
― EZ Snappin, Monday, 30 January 2012 18:16 (twelve years ago) link
Big River is one of pre-debut demos, isn't it?
Just heard a :30 snippet of You and Your Blues too...great opening riff.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 30 January 2012 18:20 (twelve years ago) link
Ah, here's a :90
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zu7CXhBBywE
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 30 January 2012 18:22 (twelve years ago) link
Apparently "Big River" is a rework of "Big Trouble". No wonder I like it! Thought it sounded familiar.
Hate to say it, but listening to it now and the demo is better. Michael Anthony and DLR's higher register both sorely missed.
― EZ Snappin, Monday, 30 January 2012 18:24 (twelve years ago) link
Honeybabysweetiedollhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68Gz88ziwTw
Bulletheadhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOZzoBS1eEw
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 30 January 2012 18:24 (twelve years ago) link
I think that's it now...90-second previews of every track are out there now. Of course, that's no way to judge an album properly, but so far I'm definitely giving it a B+ (The Trouble With Never and Tattoo being the only songs I'm not enthusiastic about).
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 30 January 2012 18:25 (twelve years ago) link
Have you seen a listing anywhere of which ones are old demos reconsidered? Because "Beats Working" is "Put Out The Lights" (I'm skimming through the demos to compare, but I'm sure someone's already done the mall).
― EZ Snappin, Monday, 30 January 2012 18:29 (twelve years ago) link
I haven't, but I'm sure one will pop up somewhere soon.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 30 January 2012 18:30 (twelve years ago) link
Full version of a few songs out there:
Blood And Firehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kt0QEHenIxY
The Trouble With Neverhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7BT-aFUPEU
― EZ Snappin, Monday, 30 January 2012 18:40 (twelve years ago) link
This made me laugh.
Michael Anthony Looks Forward To New Van Halen Record
― EZ Snappin, Monday, 30 January 2012 18:42 (twelve years ago) link
I somehow missed the snippet of "The Trouble With Never". Not so hot.
"Blood And Fire" sounds like a Skyscraper outtake.
― EZ Snappin, Monday, 30 January 2012 18:46 (twelve years ago) link
Haha.
Also, that means that the album will have leaked by Feb 2, right? Why they don't release it the same time in every region nowadays is beyond me.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 30 January 2012 18:47 (twelve years ago) link
I don't know either, but the constant snippets and leaks are making us talk about an album we probably won't remember come March.
― EZ Snappin, Monday, 30 January 2012 18:50 (twelve years ago) link
I will. I've been waiting for this since 1996 (when the two DLR tracks showed up on the best of).
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 30 January 2012 18:52 (twelve years ago) link
I'll just listen to the album worth of demos from when they were good, thank you very much.
― EZ Snappin, Monday, 30 January 2012 18:53 (twelve years ago) link
okay, so it's all oout there and pretty much "okay" so far. "Blood and Fire" is terrible though.
― EZ Snappin, Thursday, 2 February 2012 22:28 (twelve years ago) link
Dave being, well, full-on Dave here
Even so, he has chosen once again to hitch himself to the Van Halen wagon. Is it possible he and Eddie Van Halen – for all the very public acrimony between them – need each other to create anything resembling their best work? For the first time, Roth pauses – there are 30 seconds before he speaks. Then, finally: "Clearly. Very astute. Clearly." Apart, they're footnotes; together, they're a novel. "We went to school together. Literally. We took theory and orchestration together. We both have almost identical backgrounds in how we learnt. We learnt at the back of the hand from eastern-European teachers. Unfriendly eastern-European teachers." And for a long time, they shared the same aims: "I always thought of it as part of a group. I never thought in terms of Rod Stewart, I thought in terms of the Rolling Stones or the Sex Pistols. I think Edward thought in the same vein."And does knowing you need each other make the tensions between you all the worse? And we're off on one of those long, rambling, glorious answers. "Jesus, let's go back to the 1600s again. People didn't understand psychology, right? You showed them emotional content and made somebody cry and they thought it was demons. One of the best reviews you can get in my estimation is from the villagers if they killed all the actors and buried them at the cross so their ghosts couldn't haunt the village – because everyone left the play crying and laughing and they couldn't understand why. Today we give them an Oscar for that kind of emotional ride. Being human has caused so much of that. Let's really back into some theory here. What is art? Simple, I think – something that forces and compels you to think, and that can be a mint condition copy of Raging Bull or it can be the Kardashians. The same questions will be asked and you will be forced to confront yourself, and you will be forced to triangulate where you stand on everything from racist politics to haircuts. And are they really different? Do you follow? You're going to ask the same questions and that … shit … is … art. And it has caused you to question more than that goddam soup can Warhol sold us. Or tried to. Bring that one up. You follow? You are compelled into argument. Consequently, arguing about our band and our rock'n'roll - you can do that certainly for longer than actually listening to it." Then he laughs long and loud, and offers the perspective that comes with being 56, happy, and aware that there's more to life than telling the world that it might as well jump. "Van Halen music is whisky in a paper cup! Short doses and not every night, PLEASE!"
And does knowing you need each other make the tensions between you all the worse? And we're off on one of those long, rambling, glorious answers. "Jesus, let's go back to the 1600s again. People didn't understand psychology, right? You showed them emotional content and made somebody cry and they thought it was demons. One of the best reviews you can get in my estimation is from the villagers if they killed all the actors and buried them at the cross so their ghosts couldn't haunt the village – because everyone left the play crying and laughing and they couldn't understand why. Today we give them an Oscar for that kind of emotional ride. Being human has caused so much of that. Let's really back into some theory here. What is art? Simple, I think – something that forces and compels you to think, and that can be a mint condition copy of Raging Bull or it can be the Kardashians. The same questions will be asked and you will be forced to confront yourself, and you will be forced to triangulate where you stand on everything from racist politics to haircuts. And are they really different? Do you follow? You're going to ask the same questions and that … shit … is … art. And it has caused you to question more than that goddam soup can Warhol sold us. Or tried to. Bring that one up. You follow? You are compelled into argument. Consequently, arguing about our band and our rock'n'roll - you can do that certainly for longer than actually listening to it." Then he laughs long and loud, and offers the perspective that comes with being 56, happy, and aware that there's more to life than telling the world that it might as well jump. "Van Halen music is whisky in a paper cup! Short doses and not every night, PLEASE!"
― Stockhausen's Ekranoplan Quartet (Elvis Telecom), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 02:59 (twelve years ago) link
Eddie Van Halen I get, but David Lee Roth knows theory and orchestration?
― Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 04:47 (twelve years ago) link
why not?
― Little GTFO (contenderizer), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 05:57 (twelve years ago) link
"Van Halen music is whisky in a paper cup! Short doses and not every night, PLEASE!"
OK, that is brilliant.
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 10:41 (twelve years ago) link