Indefinite Detention? But I Have Soccer Practice at 4: U.S. Politics 2012

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where did you guys talk about the state of the union?

tebow gotti (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 04:09 (six years ago) Permalink

GOP primary thread, tho not much talk, really.

Clay, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 04:10 (six years ago) Permalink

fitting

tebow gotti (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 04:11 (six years ago) Permalink

i had better use for the evening ... watching old Colin Baker-era doctor who episodes.

wad of baloney (Eisbaer), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 04:13 (six years ago) Permalink

yeah i was getting drinks with friends, mercifully

tebow gotti (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 04:14 (six years ago) Permalink

I kinda watched it while writing something about music for my local alt-weekly. Just read the annoying Washington Post (likely Fred Hyatt written)take on the speech. They grumble that Obama's proposed tax changes would unfairly benefit manufacturers over other businesses; and that he won't propose a higher gas tax and other user fees in order to deficit. They liked Mitch Daniels rebuttal speech because he focussed on the debt, but then the W. Post acknowledged that the Republicans have not offered "responsible proposals to pay for the nation's needs." Oh brother.

I liked the Buffet Rule thing Obama said: those earning 1 million or more have to pay at least 30% in taxes, but that's mostly just reelection talk.

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 13:24 (six years ago) Permalink

in order to cut the deficit

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 13:25 (six years ago) Permalink

Washington Monthly blogger (and Obama cheerleader) Steve Benen is leaving that site to become a producer for “The Rachel Maddow Show” and an MSNBC contributor.

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 16:00 (six years ago) Permalink

just what MSNBC needs to blunt their skeptical edge

Dr Morbois de Bologne (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 16:09 (six years ago) Permalink

I liked the SOTU, and thought there was a lot of good substance in it, beyond the Buffett rule thing that the media focused on. For instance, reform of Senate rules to allow certain types of business to be conducted by majority vote, a shift in emphasis from deficit cutting to infrastructure investment, education reform ideas, immigration reform, and lots of other things.

o. nate, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 16:57 (six years ago) Permalink

Those ideas were nice and the speech was carefully crafted though to start off with the gung-ho America's military is the greatest stuff. Everything seemed carefully selected to respond to Republican candidates attacks.

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 21:34 (six years ago) Permalink

If this moves us one step closer to beatdowns on the floor of the House and Senate, I am all over it:

In a heated hearing Wednesday on Capitol Hill, Democratic Congressman Henry Waxman called upon the billionaire Koch brothers to be subpoenaed over their alleged monetary interests in the controversial Keystone XL pipeline. Republican Congressman Ed Whitfield angrily cut off Waxman. “We’re not going to be subpoenaing the Koch brothers … because the Koch brothers have nothing to do with this project,” Whitfield snapped.

“Point of order!” Waxman exclaimed. “You cut me out in the middle of a sentence!”

“Your time was up, Mr. Waxman!” Whitfield shot back. “We are going to recess this hearing for ten minutes and then we’re going to come back.”

“Are you calling the Koch brothers during the recess?” Waxman sniped.

“If you want to talk about that, let’s talk about the millions of dollars the Obama administration gave companies like Solyndra and people like George Kaiser and other campaign bundlers,” Whitfield fumed.

“Why are you interrupting members and then you take unlimited time for yourself?” Waxman responded.

“I’m the chairman! And I’m telling you right now we’re going to recess for ten minutes!” Whitfield boomed, before storming out of the hearing.

You got to ro-o-oll me and call me the tumblr whites (Phil D.), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 21:35 (six years ago) Permalink

Waxman is the shit

Full Frontal Newtity (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 21:40 (six years ago) Permalink

Some grade-A trolling by Waxman there.

o. nate, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 21:40 (six years ago) Permalink

solyndra thing was ok but whitfield shoulda gone "no i'm gonna call your mom"

buzza, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 21:40 (six years ago) Permalink

“Are you calling the Koch brothers during the recess?” Waxman sniped.

boom, tough actin' tinactin.

the Koch brothers certainly DO have a financial interest in Keystone XL, of course, and i'm sure Whitfield knows that.

SELF DEPORTATION (Z S), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 21:43 (six years ago) Permalink

sorry, here's some context:

PHOENIX — President Obama’s visit to Phoenix got off to a rough start on Wednesday afternoon when Air Force One was met by Gov. Jan Brewer of Arizona — she of the book “Scorpions for Breakfast,” in which she accuses the Obama administration of turning a blind eye to illegal immigration because migrants will help Mr. Obama register more Democratic votes.

Mr. Obama stepped off the plane and was greeted by Ms. Brewer, who handed him a handwritten letter in an envelope that she later said was an invitation to discuss the “Arizona comeback.” The two had an intense exchange for several minutes; at one point Ms. Brewer pointed her finger at Mr. Obama.

...At one point, the two seemed to be talking at the same time, seemingly over each other. Mr. Obama appeared to walk away from Ms. Brewer while she was still talking.

SELF DEPORTATION (Z S), Thursday, 26 January 2012 15:13 (six years ago) Permalink

are they... about to kiss

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Thursday, 26 January 2012 15:14 (six years ago) Permalink

The rightwing take:

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/thou-shalt-not-write-bad-things-about-obama_618603.html

Two Republican govs say Obama was mean to them in person (for things they wrote about him)

curmudgeon, Thursday, 26 January 2012 15:15 (six years ago) Permalink

about to hurl
xp

quick brown fox triangle (schlump), Thursday, 26 January 2012 15:15 (six years ago) Permalink

Disappointed to find out Scorpions for Breakfast isn't a cookbook ;_;

no more mr. nice girls (Abbbottt), Thursday, 26 January 2012 15:26 (six years ago) Permalink

I think you're looking for To Serve Scorpions.

You got to ro-o-oll me and call me the tumblr whites (Phil D.), Thursday, 26 January 2012 15:30 (six years ago) Permalink

One of my friends just posted the following on Facebook. RIP America:

I avoid politics on social media but I wanted to relate something to you. My son had an eighth grade history assignment in which they're studying how our government works. They were instructed to watch the State of The Union speech and write about two topics brought up in it.

He told me that some of the students brought letters from home saying they did not like Obama in their household and would not allow their child to participate in this homework assignment.

You got to ro-o-oll me and call me the tumblr whites (Phil D.), Thursday, 26 January 2012 16:29 (six years ago) Permalink

that's easy to fix: F's for non-participation

I mean, no one said they had to ENDORSE Obama, just write about what he talked about!

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Thursday, 26 January 2012 16:32 (six years ago) Permalink

those kids should get Fs

lol xp

Full Frontal Newtity (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 26 January 2012 16:32 (six years ago) Permalink

Those PARENTS should get Fs.

one little aioli (Laurel), Thursday, 26 January 2012 16:33 (six years ago) Permalink

and so should their kids

valuable lessons will be learned all the way around

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Thursday, 26 January 2012 16:34 (six years ago) Permalink

i wonder if that's the same kind of facebook nugget as someone posting that their friend's kid went into show & tell with an apple & was told they had to give a recital of verses from the quran! or whatever instead

quick brown fox triangle (schlump), Thursday, 26 January 2012 16:34 (six years ago) Permalink

are these the same parents I quoted in the Corner thread who thought FDR was a Republican

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 26 January 2012 16:35 (six years ago) Permalink

Reminds of when I was a junior in HS (1986) and one of my classmates left half of a biology test blank, because he refused to answer questions about evolution. This guy, who was otherwise a nearly straight-A student, took a big ol' F.

You got to ro-o-oll me and call me the tumblr whites (Phil D.), Thursday, 26 January 2012 16:35 (six years ago) Permalink

He told me that some of the students brought letters from home saying they did not like Obama trigonometry in their household and would not allow their child to participate in this homework assignment.

Quand le déshonneur est public, il faut que la vengeance soit (Michael White), Thursday, 26 January 2012 16:36 (six years ago) Permalink

i was more amazed someone was charing $250 for one of those 'presidents playing poker' prints

xp 2 alfred

Critique of Pure Moods (goole), Thursday, 26 January 2012 16:36 (six years ago) Permalink

hmmm i wonder if those parents would be able to whip up enough frenzy to get Bill O'Reilly to publicly call for the teacher to lose his/her job xxxxp

ban dejar (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 26 January 2012 16:37 (six years ago) Permalink

their friend's kid went into show & tell with an apple & was told they had to give a recital of verses from the quran!

What kind of loser kid goes to show and tell with nothing more than an apple?

Quand le déshonneur est public, il faut que la vengeance soit (Michael White), Thursday, 26 January 2012 16:38 (six years ago) Permalink

Well they don't like evolution or sex ed, either, so there's probably an angle from which this is just another thing about the world they don't want their kid/s exposed to and wish to pretend doesn't exist. School a la carte.

The possibility that a public educational system might have a responsibility to educate kids equally w/r/t reality no matter what their parents think doesn't seem to have registered with the lunatic middle.

one little aioli (Laurel), Thursday, 26 January 2012 16:39 (six years ago) Permalink

i am not american, i figured you guys just picked something off the table on yr way out
xp

quick brown fox triangle (schlump), Thursday, 26 January 2012 16:40 (six years ago) Permalink

English homework?! You heathens! It's Ancient Greek and Hebrew or Aramaic or nothing - he can learn to speak in tongues.

Quand le déshonneur est public, il faut que la vengeance soit (Michael White), Thursday, 26 January 2012 16:41 (six years ago) Permalink

Indeed:

Members of Tennessee tea parties presented state legislators with five priorities for action Wednesday, including “rejecting” the federal health reform act, establishing an elected “chief litigator” for the state and “educating students the truth about America.”

. . .

Regarding education, the material they distributed said, “Neglect and outright ill will have distorted the teaching of the history and character of the United States. We seek to compel the teaching of students in Tennessee the truth regarding the history of our nation and the nature of its government.”

That would include, the documents say, that “the Constitution created a Republic, not a Democracy.”

The material calls for lawmakers to amend state laws governing school curriculums, and for textbook selection criteria to say that “No portrayal of minority experience in the history which actually occurred shall obscure the experience or contributions of the Founding Fathers, or the majority of citizens, including those who reached positions of leadership.”

Fayette County attorney Hal Rounds, the group’s lead spokesman during the news conference, said the group wants to address “an awful lot of made-up criticism about, for instance, the founders intruding on the Indians or having slaves or being hypocrites in one way or another.

“The thing we need to focus on about the founders is that, given the social structure of their time, they were revolutionaries who brought liberty into a world where it hadn’t existed, to everybody — not all equally instantly — and it was their progress that we need to look at,” said Rounds, whose website identifies him as a Vietnam War veteran of the Air Force and FedEx retiree who became a lawyer in 1995.

It's nearly impossible to describe how much this garbage pisses me off.

You got to ro-o-oll me and call me the tumblr whites (Phil D.), Thursday, 26 January 2012 16:43 (six years ago) Permalink

"made-up criticism"?????????????????????????????????

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Thursday, 26 January 2012 16:45 (six years ago) Permalink

it was just a little slavery

Full Frontal Newtity (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 26 January 2012 16:48 (six years ago) Permalink

"not all equally instantly." I mean the fucking zen koan beauty of that is just . . .

You got to ro-o-oll me and call me the tumblr whites (Phil D.), Thursday, 26 January 2012 16:49 (six years ago) Permalink

"Look, the Indians weren't even USING that land, so how much of an intrusion was it, really?"

You got to ro-o-oll me and call me the tumblr whites (Phil D.), Thursday, 26 January 2012 16:49 (six years ago) Permalink

how does he reconcile equally instant equality with slavery

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Thursday, 26 January 2012 16:52 (six years ago) Permalink

And as if on cue:

Veto override gives parents more control over what their kids are taught

CONCORD - The Legislature has passed a controversial bill that would give parents greater control over course materials taught in schools.

Both the House and Senate voted to override the governor's veto of HB 542, which requires school districts to adopt policies to allow "an exception to specific course material based on a parent's or legal guardian's determination that the material is objectionable."

The House failed in an attempt in to override the veto in its last session in November. But after voting to reconsider the measure, the House passed the override on Wednesday 255 to 122, meeting the two-thirds requirement.

The Senate then voted 17-5 to override the governor.

The bill was inspired by a controversy at Bedford High School, where parents of a student objected to the book, “Nickel and Dimed: On (Not) Getting By In America.”

That's a great fucking book and should be required reading in every HS social science curriculum btw.

You got to ro-o-oll me and call me the tumblr whites (Phil D.), Thursday, 26 January 2012 16:55 (six years ago) Permalink

I frankly think of that as not only anti-social but it could lead to something akin to child-endangerment.

Quand le déshonneur est public, il faut que la vengeance soit (Michael White), Thursday, 26 January 2012 17:07 (six years ago) Permalink

does this jan brewer finger pointing at elitist thin skinned petulant kenyan president work on anyone other than lizard brain gop folk?

strongly recommend. unless you're a bitch (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 26 January 2012 19:19 (six years ago) Permalink

no

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Thursday, 26 January 2012 19:20 (six years ago) Permalink

I love that he's the divider.

Quand le déshonneur est public, il faut que la vengeance soit (Michael White), Thursday, 26 January 2012 19:25 (six years ago) Permalink


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