The word 'Spaz': classic or dud?
― *feels chilling effect, shivers* (buzza), Friday, 20 January 2012 08:54 (twelve years ago) link
Thank you darragh, thats kind of what I was getting at. Pick yr battles indeed. I mean, yes, oppresive abuse sholdnt be tolerated, but come on.
― thanks to denial, I'm immortal! (Trayce), Friday, 20 January 2012 09:00 (twelve years ago) link
darraghmac, i'm not sure if you're talking directly to me, but i actually don't really have strong feelings either way on "dumb," i was just sharing POVs i've encountered about it. i don't really use it anyway, and i've sort of agreed with that strict idea about intelligence since i was in HS albeit for entirely different reasons. but as i said it's not one of those things that's as easy as self-censorship-goodbye-done.
with the intelligence thing, i do think it's always interesting that the two metrics we use (in american society anyway) to quantify intelligence, the IQ test and the SAT, were created by eugenicists trying to prove white intellectual superiority.
― Bruce K. Tedesco (zachlyon), Friday, 20 January 2012 09:08 (twelve years ago) link
i'm sometimes tempted to hammer my (generally pretty flexible) principles into these weirdly rigid logical mechanisms - which typically results in nonsensical pronouncements and cognitive dissonance. i get all het up and forget that common sense and compassion are a better default position than ironclad if-then integrity.
ya, i understand. before i became ensconced in anti-racism stuff (which i barely even am, have not even read a whole bell hooks book loooool) my brain would act the same. i think my brain a year and a half ago would malfunction if it jumped to how it is right now, but i guess that's normal in any situation when your priorities shift.
― Bruce K. Tedesco (zachlyon), Friday, 20 January 2012 09:18 (twelve years ago) link
no, zach, just a muddled response to what i missed overnight tbh
The actual effectiveness of grading intelligence is (actually) another thread and i think everyone pretty much agreed that standard models/systems are far from perfect. I just measure wheel rims myself.
― (govtname)mac (darraghmac), Friday, 20 January 2012 09:19 (twelve years ago) link
i think there's an obvious and enormous difference in using a word like 'dumb', which emerged from a medical term but is used, what, 99% of the time without any reference to that term in any meaningful basis, and using a racially pejorative term which genuinely can't/hasn't/may never evolve in language usage sufficiently far from the origin.
one last thing: you would be surprised how many white people defend their usage of the n-word by saying its meaning has evolved. i think i've read the line "i just use it to mean 'a bad person'" a million times.
― Bruce K. Tedesco (zachlyon), Friday, 20 January 2012 09:22 (twelve years ago) link
well i would 100 defend their right to do that
-_-
― (govtname)mac (darraghmac), Friday, 20 January 2012 09:25 (twelve years ago) link
i wasn't suggesting you were. actually i regret posting that, comparing marginalizations isn't cool, nm, sorry.
― Bruce K. Tedesco (zachlyon), Friday, 20 January 2012 09:33 (twelve years ago) link
ha srsly don't mind me
― (govtname)mac (darraghmac), Friday, 20 January 2012 09:40 (twelve years ago) link
Zach where do you go to college
― tinker tailor soldier sb (silby), Friday, 20 January 2012 13:10 (twelve years ago) link
backstage (on left) terrorizing plastic newborns
http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/8194/gunsyg.jpg
― Neanderthal, Friday, 20 January 2012 13:19 (twelve years ago) link
Only racist if the baby is Jewish
― tinker tailor soldier sb (silby), Friday, 20 January 2012 13:23 (twelve years ago) link
omg TOTALLY the wrong thread
― Neanderthal, Friday, 20 January 2012 13:24 (twelve years ago) link
hahaha
― Neanderthal, Friday, 20 January 2012 13:25 (twelve years ago) link
http://rvecafe.com/Assets5/bike01f.jpg
― Scrutable (Ówen P.), Friday, 20 January 2012 14:10 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLd3dYK6_Vs
mainly cuz it's a white guy
― I am that young sis, the beacon, a yardstick (dayo), Friday, 20 January 2012 17:31 (twelve years ago) link
lol "mainly"
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 20 January 2012 17:32 (twelve years ago) link
it's p well established that they're all racist
― I am that young sis, the beacon, a yardstick (dayo), Friday, 20 January 2012 17:35 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah pretty racist but "which John Lee" can actually be a relevant question ime. "which Eric Pak" not as likely.
― tinker tailor soldier sb (silby), Friday, 20 January 2012 18:14 (twelve years ago) link
Side note: no video entitled "Shit _____ _____ say" has, to my knowledge, ever been funny
― frogBaSeball (Hurting 2), Friday, 20 January 2012 18:16 (twelve years ago) link
The NYers one made me giggle but that was mainly because of the "All I've had to eat today was a bagel" line.
― ENBB, Friday, 20 January 2012 18:18 (twelve years ago) link
yeah the ny one was okayish
― iatee, Friday, 20 January 2012 18:18 (twelve years ago) link
I was trying to figure out if the guy in it was horatio sanz
― iatee, Friday, 20 January 2012 18:20 (twelve years ago) link
lol really? I don't know who he is but I'm p sure it wasn't Sans.
― ENBB, Friday, 20 January 2012 18:20 (twelve years ago) link
no it's just some rando comedian
― iatee, Friday, 20 January 2012 18:21 (twelve years ago) link
i like "shit white girls say to black girls" but on balance i wish the whole "shit ____ say" had never happened
― horseshoe, Friday, 20 January 2012 18:35 (twelve years ago) link
I haven't watched that one. . . .
― ENBB, Friday, 20 January 2012 18:38 (twelve years ago) link
The NYer one just reminded me of those YOU KNOW YOU'RE A MISSOURIAN IF… type emails I get every once in awhile.
― pplains, Friday, 20 January 2012 18:39 (twelve years ago) link
"shit no one says" was pretty funny i thought
lold at the first 20-30 seconds of "shit people say about the shit people say videos"
― max, Friday, 20 January 2012 19:13 (twelve years ago) link
― horseshoe, Friday, January 20, 2012 1:35 PM (40 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
oh then you should DEFINITELY watch the brian williams "rock center" segment on it
― tyga mother (J0rdan S.), Friday, 20 January 2012 19:15 (twelve years ago) link
yeah "shit no one says" was pretty funny
I don't know where to put this but this story just depresses the hell out of me
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/teens-detained-brutal-beating-chicago-boy-appears-youtube-video-article-1.1007573
― I am that young sis, the beacon, a yardstick (dayo), Friday, 20 January 2012 19:19 (twelve years ago) link
idk why it surprises/depresses me in 2012 but I find it surprising and depressing that there's a knowyourmeme entry on it already
http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/events/chicago-teens-beating-video
― I am that young sis, the beacon, a yardstick (dayo), Friday, 20 January 2012 19:21 (twelve years ago) link
yeah i've seen clips of that video too many times... really brutal
― tyga mother (J0rdan S.), Friday, 20 January 2012 19:24 (twelve years ago) link
― tinker tailor soldier sb (silby), Friday, January 20, 2012 8:10 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
just graduated u of maryland
― Bruce K. Tedesco (zachlyon), Friday, 20 January 2012 19:31 (twelve years ago) link
If you have any tolerance for those things, I liked "Shit polys say"
― Scrutable (Ówen P.), Friday, 20 January 2012 19:34 (twelve years ago) link
oh damn in college park? my wife is in grad school there
― @51TimesNo (some dude), Friday, 20 January 2012 19:45 (twelve years ago) link
o shit what's she studying
― Bruce K. Tedesco (zachlyon), Friday, 20 January 2012 19:54 (twelve years ago) link
microbiology/virology
― @51TimesNo (some dude), Friday, 20 January 2012 20:01 (twelve years ago) link
welp there's a 100% chance i've never been in the same room as her
― Bruce K. Tedesco (zachlyon), Friday, 20 January 2012 20:03 (twelve years ago) link
haha
― Critique of Pure Moods (goole), Friday, 20 January 2012 20:04 (twelve years ago) link
oh yeah i figured, it is a giant giant school, just sayin
― @51TimesNo (some dude), Friday, 20 January 2012 20:04 (twelve years ago) link
!!!
― 51 fewer calories (Lamp), Friday, 20 January 2012 20:09 (twelve years ago) link
what...people are scientists, it happens y'know
― @51TimesNo (some dude), Friday, 20 January 2012 20:10 (twelve years ago) link
i do know in fact!
― 51 fewer calories (Lamp), Friday, 20 January 2012 20:11 (twelve years ago) link
Someone has to save Gwyneth Paltrow.
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 20 January 2012 20:12 (twelve years ago) link
lamp are you a microbiologist? fess up
― @51TimesNo (some dude), Friday, 20 January 2012 20:32 (twelve years ago) link
im working on my doctorate in somewhat related field
― 51 fewer calories (Lamp), Friday, 20 January 2012 21:18 (twelve years ago) link
oh badass
― @51TimesNo (some dude), Friday, 20 January 2012 21:21 (twelve years ago) link
actually, within the field it's known as IBS
― (govtname)mac (darraghmac), Friday, 20 January 2012 22:31 (twelve years ago) link