rolling "Is This Racist?" thread

That was a joke attempt that obvs went nowhere, DJP. I am nowhere near edgy enough to get away with that, clearly.

i've literally never yelled at a kid, black or white

Whaaaaa . . . ? I yell at my teenage niece and nephew all the time.

They're white btw

iunno frog, read the thread i guess

My mother used the word "uppity" on phone w me the other day, in anger with a badly behaved kid in her class who also happened to be black

i get that this is your whole shtick Whiney but c'mon man

Laurel didnt ask, darrgh did

i mean we're clearly talking about a teacher/student relationship here

in fairness to frogbs, I wouldn't dig very deeply into Skipping 2032 messages at this point... Click here if you want to load them all either

http://ramonasbasilgardengifts.com/wp-content/uploads/marketimages/lgteacherdk.jpg

http://www.polyvore.com/cgi/img-thing?.out=jpg&size=l&tid=36465418

How do ya like them apples?

wow, uh, i just clicked on whiney's link at work and um whoops

Oh, frogbspaws

gbsp

kind of amazed that so many are/were unaware of the meaning of "gypped/jipped". thought it was pretty well understood that that's a slur. but i just checked with my gf, and she defended it, first saying that it's spelled differently, then that "there aren't many of them here" (in america). uh...

then again, i thoughtlessly used "mongoloid" to mean idiot in a conversation with a chinese friend a few years ago, and she went off on me quick.

frogs cannot be an actual person

i love the moments on this thread where someone goes to gis with a "frog [x]" search and comes back with something

'mongolien' still means someone w/ downs syndrome in french

(there is also no word for political correctness)

i thoughtlessly used "mongoloid" to mean idiot in a conversation with a chinese friend a few years ago

How old are you Contenderizer? Just curious cause I thought that had been out of use for a really long time in the US. UK is a diff story. "Mong" is still used fairly frequently there, I think.

sort of a blessing, "racist" is better than "politically incorrect" anyway

a note from the mac osx dictionary (oxfords)

usage: 1 The terms Mongoloid, Negroid, Caucasoid, and Australoid were introduced by 19th-century anthropologists attempting to classify human racial types, but today they are recognized as having very limited validity as scientific categories. Although occasionally used when making broad generalizations about the world's populations, in most modern contexts they are potentially offensive, especially when used of individuals. Instead, the names of specific peoples or nationalities should be used wherever possible. 2 The term mongol, or Mongoloid, was adopted in the late 19th century to refer to a person with Down syndrome, owing to the similarity of some of the physical symptoms of the disorder with the normal facial characteristics of eastern Asian people. The syndrome itself was thus called mongolism. In modern English, this use of mongol (and related forms) is unacceptable and is considered offensive. In scientific, as well as in most general contexts, mongolism has been replaced by the term Down syndrome (first recorded in the early 1960s).

I didn't mean that it's technically considered OK to still say Mong in the UK just that you still hear it there a lot more than you do here ime.

I tried to come up with a joke centered around the phrase "among friends" for like 90 seconds before re-evaluating my priorities

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZb4vwMV8lY

I think 'jipped' is an interesting case cause it really does seem so far removed for a lot of people. can something that starts out racist eventually just become a word? most people have no clue about the etymology of most words they use.

The term mongol, or Mongoloid, was adopted in the late 19th century to refer to a person with Down syndrome, owing to the similarity of some of the physical symptoms of the disorder with the normal facial characteristics of eastern Asian people.

haha im imagining some very agonizing and serious discussion about this sentence & thought amongst the dictionary editors

Indian giver
Indian burn
Indian summer

i mean re gypped, i think the disconnect in america is like most ppl probably heard that word more than they've hear anything about actual gypsies

whats even worse is when you try to play NEGRO against a black friend and learn that it isnt even a word

― frogbs

that really is pretty awkward

i think that was supposed to be a joke? but "Negro" is a word. but it's a proper noun, i guess, so maybe it doesn't count? i have devoted too much thought to this.

slurs with friends

Indian burn interestingly known as Chinese burns in the UK.

frogbs + his black friends would make a good sitcom

http://oranges-world.com/data_images/black-frog.jpg

i mean re gypped, i think the disconnect in america is like most ppl probably heard that word more than they've hear anything about actual gypsies

Yeah tbh I learned a lot more about tramps and thieves growing up.

my dad did a favor for a gypsy once, and the gypsy saved his life in turn. true story!

that's just enforcing stereotypes about gypsies having magic powers

Remy and iatee need to stop disagreeing right now, it's giving me cognitive dissonance.

even better fact: the guy smuggled my dad a message on minuatuer nautical flags hung from the rigging of a hand-built ship in a bottle

How old are you Contenderizer? Just curious cause I thought that had been out of use for a really long time in the US.

i'm forty-something, and yeah, it has. a gap in my awareness.

tbh i thought 'gypsy' was generally considered offensive in and of itself? or at least "not politically correct"?

well, not in the stevie nicks usage

joey skaggs to thread fwiw:

http://www.joeyskaggs.com/images/hoax/gyp1.jpg

according to pops, gypsy is an acceptable usage when applied to gypsy romany people, not to any type of itinerant or eastern european. but this was in the prison system in the '80s.

No, I think the term in and of itself is totally fine when used to describe actual romany gypsies but there are so many negative associations with gypsies that is feels "bad" somehow.

hey guys is this song racist, it came on when a friend was over and he said it was p racist, I guess I didn't even think about it being racist because I liked it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyiU1Kkzg9A

kind of amazed that so many are/were unaware of the meaning of "gypped/jipped". thought it was pretty well understood that that's a slur. but i just checked with my gf, and she defended it, first saying that it's spelled differently, then that "there aren't many of them here" (in america). uh...

then again, i thoughtlessly used "mongoloid" to mean idiot in a conversation with a chinese friend a few years ago, and she went off on me quick.

I never put 2 and 2 together on "jipped" because I hear the word 'gypsy' like twice a year. My Mom's nickname was "gypsy" when she managed a band some 15 years ago, not her choice but certainly not something I thought was offensive

"Mongoloid" is one I never thought about either, only time I hear it is in the Devo song

I don't think it's necessarily offensive to be like 'oh yeah I've been a gypsy over the last few years, lived in chicago, baltimore, dc...' - there's nothing inherently offensive about associating gypsies w/ nomadism I think?

i think that was supposed to be a joke? but "Negro" is a word. but it's a proper noun, i guess, so maybe it doesn't count? i have devoted too much thought to this.

believe it or not it wasn't a joke, it was the only five-letter word I could make and apparently it didn't take

maybe the 'sting' of it is taken out b/c my wife's nickname has always been "La Negra" which isn't really supposed to have any racial connotations

No, I think that would be OK. Using "gyped" is pretty offensive those because it's sort of similar to when people use "jew" as a verb like he "jewed" me down.

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Is that a nickname that her family thought of?