rolling "Is This Racist?" thread

i mean, that's a connotation that i associate with "uppity." it's not in the dictionary definition i just googled. i feel like in america with the history of the phrase "uppity n*****" maybe it carries that connotation more intensely.

Yeah, "insubordinate" is a perfect analog but my mom's family are from Tennessee so she has "uppity" in her vocab already and it occasionally gets used. Anyway. She's not trying to make a statement, she just doesn't hear other words around her EVER because no one talks about race in her world, and casual racism that's based on not actually KNOWING anyone in the indicted group is just everywhere.

whiney, a white person should never be allowed to yell at black kids?

― I am that young sis, the beacon, a yardstick (dayo), Thursday, January 19, 2012 12:35 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I literally have never been in a situation where I had to yell at black kids, let alone one that requires me to inform one that he's acting snobby, ymmv

I used to tutor at a school where my kids were black - I should never have been allowed to yell at him, even if they did some shitty things?

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pls be my special classroom guest

although i have never said snobby in a classroom

although i have never said snobby in a classroom

Oh wait - I thought Whiney was just kidding with that comment before.

Yes people's milage might indeed vary cause if you were actually being serious then I don't know about Darragh but I've personally had to yell at black kids, white kids, latino kids - all kinds of kids - a lot in various jobs over the years.

I yelled at a bunch of black kids last summer for throwing pebbles at other kids climbing on the playground.

I said, "KNOCK IT OFF, YOU INSCRUTABLE MONKEYS."

Before you all think I'm mean or something I didn't actually yell (despite there being many times when I really really wanted to) at them. Just to clarify.

x-post - lol

about ten years ago i did get chastised for assigning a public speaking project, on whose rubric were allocated 10 points for 'clear and articulate voice.' i :get: that there's racial baggage to this term, but at the same time IN A PUBLIC SPEAKING CLASS I felt it was an apropos component of a grade.

i :get: that there's racial baggage to this term

TO WHICH TERM?

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"articulate," again, when used to describe black people. it's not like you can't say "articulate"!

i feel like more important than memorizing a list of words you can never use is understanding the racist history of their use.

I mean I could guess that you mean articulate because maybe inarticulate has been used in a way that's connected with race but I would never in a million years have looked at that and thought about racial baggage. Jesus.

I was joking, enbb, i was explaining the joke to dayo

Erica, the context is sort of an exceptionalism thing where you're like "my, that black man was so *articulate*" because your expectation is that black men are stupid and can't speak properly.

it's, like, unintentionally revealing of assumptions about black people; i really doubt you've ever used the word in that way

yes! also, for what it's worth, I was the only teacher of color in a school w/ a 90% non-white pop., and the people that got mad at me were all white administrators who demanded that I 'understand the history.'

I was joking, enbb, i was explaining the joke to dayo

― deltron the escape g.o.a.t. (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, January 19, 2012 12:50 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

nice backpedaling

yes! also, for what it's worth, I was the only teacher of color in a school w/ a 90% non-white pop., and the people that got mad at me were all white administrators who demanded that I 'understand the history.'

oh dear lord

A fellow in the office and I play Words With Friends, and we were talking about how sometimes you get the perfect word to use for points, but it just doesn't feel right. Like even if you get a triple-letter, you still don't want to play RAPE against a female friend.

Right after we had that conversation, I got HUNGJEW in my tray.

haha my last move was 'gay' to a gay friend tbh

I just wanted to get rid of the y

remy, it seems like people are absolute DICKS to you a lot. Like unnecessarily. The parents up-thread who held against you a comment about their adopted kid that you made when you were TWELVE also comes to mind!

Yeah, HS I get it but in Remy's example it seems completely ridiculous for him to be criticized for that. Being clear and articulate is one of the most important parts of public speaking! It seems even more so now after reading his description of the school and population tbh.

I just wanted to get rid of the y

― iatee, Thursday, January 19, 2012 11:53 AM (11 seconds ago)

^ eliminationist rhetoric

held against you a comment about their adopted kid that you made when you were TWELVE also comes to mind!

I thought that comment sounded adorable btw.

yeah no it was dumb of his administrators to object to that

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I literally have never been in a situation where I had to yell at black kids, let alone one that requires me to inform one that he's acting snobby, ymmv

jesus christ Whiney whats a matter with you

I think I just remember shitty shit a lot; kind of got a fixedly pessimistic memory-motor.

I quit teaching for 6 years after that school. E., you know which one it is, I think.

A fellow in the office and I play Words With Friends, and we were talking about how sometimes you get the perfect word to use for points, but it just doesn't feel right. Like even if you get a triple-letter, you still don't want to play RAPE against a female friend.

whats even worse is when you try to play NEGRO against a black friend and learn that it isnt even a word

yeah, whats the matter with ME

Hahaha. Oh OK, that make s a lot of sense now if I'm thinking of the right one. Remy btw - you need to claim your requested confectioneries at some point. :)

well it was a profoundly stupid thing to say

tell me about all the reasons, besides being a teacher, that you have to yell at black kids for being snobby

you never hear anybody use the word "scrutable" do you?

"typical scrutable Italian"

haha i didn't even realize it was a word

Italian scrutable flatbread

crütable

C'mon, everybody yells at kids, it's our right as old people.

tbh, I have never called a kid snobby

tell me about all the reasons, besides being a teacher, that you have to yell at black kids for being snobby

― deltron the escape g.o.a.t. (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, January 19, 2012 12:58 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

When they only steal the hood ornaments from Mercs and BMWs but not my Toyota.

yeah honestly it's hard for me to think of a teaching context where calling a kid snobby would come up

omg Phil

i've literally never yelled at a kid, black or white, and couldnt imagine a single situation where i'd have to tell a black kid he was snobby, let alone it happening so frequently in my life that I'd seek anonymous advice on the internet on how to handle this constant and unwelcome occurance