rolling "Is This Racist?" thread

irished, tbf, is on-point because i would totally steal ur pint given a chance

Oh, now I understand, thought it meant the Irish were mean when that's obv. the Scots

That's "mean" in UK/Irish sense, not the US sense, which always sounds silly to me

Beeps calls sitting cross-legged "criss-cross, applesauce". Back in my day, it was "Indian style".

haha my day too, which was like the 90s

"uppity" has historical associations w/ blacks who 'didn't know their place'

― iatee, Thursday, January 19, 2012 11:18 AM (53 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

ARE YOU SHITTING ME?

I didn't know people used "jew" as a verb until my sophomore year of college, when I was on a choir tour and our host's mother in Tupelo was telling us about how her daughter went up to NYC and argued with her landlord to get her rent reduced. I have never seen someone change the topic of conversation faster than our host did. (As a horrifying aside, two out of the four of us being hosted were Jewish.)

xp: he is not shitting you, E

I have never in my life heard that or known that before. I thought it just meant when people were snobby. I've definitely said and used uppity just to mean snobby people before. I mean it's not something I say often but I've definitely used it.

Woah. That one is seriously blowing my mind. I had no idea!

i'm staggered you've never heard the phrase "uppity n____"

altho my introduction to the u word was

http://images.wikia.com/mrmen/images/f/fd/Mr._Uppity.jpg

I just that it was a fancier way of saying stuck up. :/

I'm surprised so few people know about "uppity"

yeah, e, you can call a white person "uppity" and it still means snobby

well I think it can still be used in other contexts without being objectively offensive but probably needs to be handled delicately

ENBB, it does mean that as well, but really it's best avoiding the word altogether at this point.

lol at that barrage of posts.

"uppity n____"

Nope. Never.

Woah. This is a very educational thread!

btw how the hell did I miss/forget this:

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/11/rush-limbaugh-says-first-lady-was-booed-partly-because-nascar-fans-hate-her-uppityism/

Use "uppish" instead.

eh uppity is a lot more innocuous than eg monkey, as in it has a clear and usable everyday meaning but can have racist connotations, it's not a 'racist' word tho

Yeah, I knew about "uppity" when I was growing up, and it was kind of understood that "this is a thing bad people say about minorities." Then, my freshman year of college, a girl actually said to me, "I don't mind black people, but I don't like when they get all uppity." I nearly shit my pants. True story.

Beeps calls sitting cross-legged "criss-cross, applesauce". Back in my day, it was "Indian style".

And I still can't believe that some bars server "Irish Car Bombs" on St. Patrick's Day.

― pplains, Thursday, January 19, 2012 11:18 AM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Criss-cross applesauce just sounds ridiculous to me. The first time I heard it I was like "You're sitting what now?"

Irish Car Bombs are pretty popular year round here in Boston. smdh.

uppity 28 up, 94 down

a nickname for a man's penis

He had an uppity when he fell asleep in class.

xxpost Is the part that you almost shit in your pants true?

I can walk four blocks from my office and get Irish Car Bombs every day at that noted Irish establishment "Flannery's Pub" in downtown Cleveland.

xxxp No, that part's a lie. I actually *did* shit my pants.

"criss cross applesauce" is probably more offensive than indian style. if a teacher said that to my kid, i'd change school districts

Irish Car Bombs are pretty popular year round here in Boston. smdh.

Well that's where they got the money from to make them in the first place, so fair enough

There are still biases against some "white" people though, Whiney! I grew up in an area that had a huge Italian immigration period around 1900 and still had a fairly entrenched Italian community -- Italian community center, festivals, kids in high school who had "proud to be Italian" t-shirts and all that shit. Not so much the Jersey Shore parody of it, but definitely from the same place, culturally.

To be fair the bias against that group was more rooted in the fact that some members of the community were complete assholes, the "Italians are better than everyone else" attitude is kind of an ugly personality flaw, and there seemed to be a pervasive bias against more recent Hispanic immigrants when their families were only a couple generations removed from migrants themselves.

OK, I admit it, I'm racist against Italians :(

comeback about him being german but i couldn't think of anything that didn't involve accusing him of mass murder

People do make comments about that ALL the fucking time and, OK, fair enough. It does get pretty annoying though when you realize how often people do it. You know what else was really annoying? When kids drew swastikas in my 5th grade year book because they thought it was "funny".

"hippie style" is pretty safe for that manner of sitting

yeah tbf i'm not buying wgw's outlook on eg irish slurs tbph

if they knew what was up they would have drawn a German tourist wearing socks with sandals

x-post

I used to have a "I'm not only perfect, I'm Italian!" shirt that I bout in Little Italy years and years ago. I am not Italian.

x-post - and small funy colorful glasses

funny

I was a weird kid... I always knew it as "half-lotus"

i mean, 'run the world' we don't even run the 75% of our country the british didn't want ffs

is hating 3rd gen italian americans really racist?

I believe I was instructed to sit "cross-legged"

not sure where applesauce comes into it, unless they're serving pork chops

i always knew of germans as goofy drunkards, like the irish (according to single panel comics)

some kids can't eat pork chops mh

x-post - dats me

is hating 3rd gen italian americans really racist?

― iatee, Thursday, January 19, 2012 11:29 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I think it's mosty just very anti-Long Island.

Oh, man, my family was stationed in Germany from 1976-79, so we moved there when I was nearly 7 and my sister was 9. We lived off-post in a high-rise apartment leased by the Army from the local government.

Anyway, we interacted a lot with the local German kids in the neighborhood, and one day my sister got in a shouting match with some boy, and, having vaguely heard the word and knowing it had something to do with Germany, called him a Nazi. I have never seen a fistfight between two kids start so quickly. My dad had to come downstairs and separate them!

I think that in larger cities where haven't moved around and still have ethnic family roots, there's still a racism or at least bias of sorts among groups. I think it's partially a leftover strong pride that was useful in the face of real discrimination in the past, but now has turned more into a persecution complex that causes the behavior to come on to strong and, paradoxically, cause people to be looked on in a negative way because they're overreacting to a perceived bias.

i miss the days when we were all goofy drunkards, the white man got us with his promises of untold wealth and now we're all joyless coke-snorting architects

for years i knew nothing about the nazis except they seemed to hate singing and wanted to steal antiquities

x-post - Yeah. The only time I know of that my dad actually punched someone out was when a guy called him a Nazi directly to his face. He knocked that fucker down fast.

There are more "German Americans" than any other kind of American though

"Well, ___________ are the blacks of Europe" = "Hey, want to watch me lose an argument?"

It was crazy. It was like someone had shot a crazed chimp out of a cannon at my sister's face.

And we're all like "Go for the eyes, Fritz!"