Rustie - Glass Swords

this stuff is very impressive but does nothing for me.

totally

relistening now and it still puts as massive a grin on my face as when i first heard it. so many hooks! so many amazing noises!

impossible not to move to it

My kids like putting on 'Ultra Thizz' and running round the kitchen table having pretend lazer fights.

I like to do that too.

This is a total sonic nerd album where the beats are kind of an afterthought to all the bright synths and I'm one a rhythm nerd, so of course Lex loves it and it leaves me indifferent.

totally disagree, this is a super rhythm nerd record. so many of the tracks are based on a clever rhythmic hook or idea, they sound like a drummer wrote them.

not sure if i'd use the word clever.

admittedly, i just don't get this record tho.

is it strange that i agree with nearly everything in this thread? this is catchy but not, in your face but not, rhythmic but not, interesting but not. It's like, I can listen to and enjoy it maybe three times and then I'm tired of it I guess. I'd like it to be a little MORE overall.

Really, this is a good tide-over until Girl Unit release an album and blow us all away.

Everything Girl Unit has put his hand to that hasn't been on the Wut EP has been pretty shonky.

i think 'after light' is a pretty smart idea (how he combines that classic rave dotted 8th note line with the half-time beat), well-executed.

but not quite as clever as the main beat in hudmo's 'thunder bay': https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=my_Efk19OJw

I'd like it to be a little MORE overall.

more?!

Half-step beats pretty much code as "no interest in groove" to me by this point.

i can't even

backbeats are america

America has generally done more interesting things with them then yr current post-dubstep diaspora has managed.

I'd like it to be a little MORE overall.

more?!

― the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Thursday, 19 January 2012 16:30 (11 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Sure. I'm not saying it should go into full-on brostep - that would be horrible - but the alternative seems to fall somewhere in the middle with Rustie. It's a fun album, but is it THAT much fun? It's dancey, but when it came to the crunch I decided to pull it from my dance set on NYE. It's rhythmically interesting, but is it pushing the envelope a bit or a lot? It seems to only just about reach the top of the hill, but never quite pushes itself over the edge.And I want more - just a bit more.

perhaps you are saying you do not want a mind trip, but a body journey

whoa this mix

(xpost) mind you, that Thunder Bay beat's great neanderthal insistence owes more than a wee bit to this old grime number....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1q1Z6KQ49tU

kinda weird that Pitchfork reviewed it

yeah i thought it must have gotten a physical release or something

rev you so crazy

how you say the rhythm here is an afterthought

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKm1m1NJysk

i mean on a conceptual level it sounds to me like a basic crunk / southern rap beat (admittedly i'm not a big expert on those genres) w/ crazy-ass synth work on top BUT i think it's an extremely competent and well-crafted basic beat and not at all an afterthought or half-assed beatwork

actually "extremely competent" is probably an oxymoron, maybe i just mean "completely competent"

that's my favorite track of glass swords BTW

i think the "maximalism" of rustie is somewhat overstated

on the essential mix last saturday -

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01f15yf

was listening to the essential mix today and it seemed like he's a huge chick corea fan

I like rustie, for whatever reason I'm not angry when I listen to whatever shit of his I've heard, think he's kind of boring to me in an overall musician way but still it's not the worst

Apparently he's been approached to work with Justin Bieber and Shakira. He wisely said no. I can't see how that would have worked.

Hudson Mohawke appears to be making that move

was listening to the essential mix today and it seemed like he's a huge chick corea fan

hahahaha this is like the most predictable thing ever. can't wait for the bela fleck collabo.

people say a lot of ott things about how much is going on in rustie tracks

to me rustie basically sounds like hip hop jacking IDM of yore, except updated to reflect the cadences of 00s rap tunes and ukg / grime and really creative / cheesy / goofy synth textures

i definitely agree with that. although i think those write-ups are mostly trying to call attention to his aesthetic/attitude, i.e. going big rather than creating an atmosphere.

yeah his music is kinda loud, those gloopy shiny synths really "fill up" the, uh, psychoacoustic space or whatever you want to call it.

i'm kinda referring to things like that quote from the pfork EM review where the writer says something like "five simultaneous melodies going on at once" ... uh, no. there's not five melodies going on at once, there's usually one melody with lots of pitchbending and fx (not much more intricate than a typical modern acid house track) and one bassline and some random embellishments (definitely not intricate compared to the DSP fuckery in most idm tracks)

don't get me wrong i LOVE rustie and hudson mohawke it's just i think the praise they get is kinda ill-informed and misses what's great about them

fwiw i also think hudson mohawke's production and drum programming is much more "intricate" although definitely not "better" because of it

apparently he's been approached to work with Justin Bieber and Shakira. He wisely said no. I can't see how that would have worked.

― And I have been called "The Appetite" (DL), Tuesday, April 24, 2012 7:03 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark

i don't see why someone wouldn't just try this. the worst that happens is that nothing good comes of it and that's that.

he's holding out for lil wayne

fwiw i also think hudson mohawke's production and drum programming is much more "intricate" although definitely not "better" because of it.

totally. i agree that rustie's thing isn't about a ton of sounds and parts, it's about huge sounds so that he can base a track around ONE part that still sounds pretty overwhelming.

sorry for repeating myself but this is all I could think of when listening to the essential mix

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDkqu7GPd0o

yup

Warp Record guest Rustie delves into the diversity of his own tastes with a special selection including: Boards of Canada, Allan Holdsworth, Yes, Return to Forever & Weather Report.

he should've totally taken bieber and shakira up ffs

i mean you can totally imagine shakira doing a vocal along the lines of nightwave's on "surph" and fleshing the song out a bit

please apologize for linking to a site w/ a picture of rustie

This was originally meant to go to Rihanna
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrsaB0Uune8

ha xp

return to forever is totally in these days, just look at that thundercat record.

wtf r u talking abt when was RTF ever not cool?