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lol man i am shocked by the gorilla vs. bear top 30 and how little of it i know #old

can i also just reiterate while were all still here tht the gvsb dude is like a real life version of one of whiney's indie critic caricatures and the idea that his voice/taste/site shld stand-in for 'underground music' fills me w/despair

Wait, what is "terrible" about scottpl's essay exactly?

Black Up hit us harder than anything since Person Pitch dropped back in ‘07

try 2 remember always just 2 have a good time

This is no time to quote Prince.

btw if someone did whiney's suggested anti-'corny indie fuck' edit of the poll wouldn't the top three be kanye/jay, adele, & paul simon?

crossing my fingers for a TuNeYaRDzzz/PaUl sImOn worldbeat collaboration. shit would be hot.

what is "terrible" about scottpl

I hate lines like: "easily digestible, rooted in collective memory and experiences, lo-fi enough to mask amateurishness", when none of those dismissals are particularly true. There's no shortage of truly bad chillwave, electro-pop, and other blog favorites to demonstrate this.

I'm loving the past few years of music because a lot of vows of chastity that straightjacketed indie music for decades fell off in the last 10 years. I credit the laptop becoming today's pawn shop guitar.

btw if someone did whiney's suggested anti-'corny indie fuck' edit of the poll wouldn't the top three be kanye/jay, adele, & paul simon?

Don't forget about Drake!

Or maybe he counts as a corny indie fuck now.

i think iver and foxes votes correlate more strongly with drake votes than they do with kanye votes (though probably most of the people who voted for the former voted for kanye too)

I hate lines like: "easily digestible, rooted in collective memory and experiences, lo-fi enough to mask amateurishness", when none of those dismissals are particularly true. There's no shortage of truly bad chillwave, electro-pop, and other blog favorites to demonstrate this.

this seems like a fair description of the shit i've heard p much

i mean its not like he hasn't championed stuff that falls into this ~style~ either. but i don't even dig into this music like that either, and i know that describes more than a few things w/in the spectrum

can i also just reiterate while were all still here tht the gvsb dude is like a real life version of one of whiney's indie critic caricatures and the idea that his voice/taste/site shld stand-in for 'underground music' fills me w/despair

― HOOS steen is it anyway? (Lamp), Wednesday, January 18, 2012 8:47 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

lol duly noted

most indie rock has been pretty conservative since the dawn of the 90's. that's when normal people started making it.

― scott seward, Wednesday, January 18, 2012 8:15 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

ugh this post is so gross

oh yay, a spirited debate about indie rock!

hmmmmmmmm

Damn - Jess is the person I'm most empathetic with

"ugh this post is so gross"

no way, you're so gross!

we're all gross

http://www.wearysloth.com/Gallery/ActorsG/7089-3908.jpg

i listened to a song from the pj harvey album and why do the background vocals sound like bone thugs n harmony

Where does Mastodon rate at #47 as far as metal albums representing on P&J? Too lazy to look it up... I personally didn't like the record but whatevah.

A minor note for the curious: with the upcoming June 1 shut-down of needlebase.com, my previous stats tool (and former job), I've rebuilt my P&J statistics index in a new standalone form here:

http://furia.com/pjs

There are a lot fewer moving parts than in the Needle version, and less meta-miscellany, but hopefully a) most of the stuff I didn't recreate wasn't actually all that interesting, and b) what's left is easier to navigate and understand.

Sorry about the job, impressed as always with your stats work

(New job is more fun, so that part is good.)

like the look of the new stats page. did the billboard stuff i did for the last 2 polls survive the transition?

The Billboard stuff is in a different database. I've extracted all that data for safekeeping already, but I don't have time to do anything else with it at the moment...

ah ok cool, good to know it's at least saved. when the next poll is approaching i will prob bug you about doing some more w/ it.