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also I totally tried to make complicated games using HyperStudio in middle school. I don't think I got very far.

tinker tailor soldier sb (silby), Thursday, 19 January 2012 00:16 (twelve years ago) link

usb floppy drives a fairly late-in-the-game addition i'd have thought

(govtname)mac (darraghmac), Thursday, 19 January 2012 00:17 (twelve years ago) link

When I was doing my professional writing/editing diploma in 95-96, one of my lecturers was really excited about internet tech and showed us this animation that'd been made in Director called "bad day on the midway", and was on this huge tip about how Director/Flash was gonna CHANGE THE WHOLE INTERNET... I guess he was kind of right, really.

thanks to denial, I'm immortal! (Trayce), Thursday, 19 January 2012 00:17 (twelve years ago) link

(tho "bad day" wasnt an internet thing now I think about it, it was a CD ROM, but still)

thanks to denial, I'm immortal! (Trayce), Thursday, 19 January 2012 00:18 (twelve years ago) link

Oh also in…I dunno, the mid-90s, my parents had a contract to write a book called "Seniors in Cyberspace", so for a while we had free access to Prodigy, CompuServe, and AOL. I remember that CompuServe was boring and prodigy had some freakish sesame-street interactive book thing going on. AOL was the dial-up service we "actually" used so after they canceled the other ones they tried to get AOL to start charging us again, but apparently that never worked; I think we had free AOL for the rest of the dial-up era.

tinker tailor soldier sb (silby), Thursday, 19 January 2012 00:18 (twelve years ago) link

i am nostalgic for playing this one star trek game (written in basic) on my school's trs-80s. when you fired a photon torpedo, a * would dance across the screen.

you damn kids don't even know what an a drive is

mookieproof, Thursday, 19 January 2012 00:18 (twelve years ago) link

our science teacher used to talk about the information super highway and how it would change television forever

(govtname)mac (darraghmac), Thursday, 19 January 2012 00:19 (twelve years ago) link

he was a crazy dreamer but we loved him

(govtname)mac (darraghmac), Thursday, 19 January 2012 00:19 (twelve years ago) link

why did they try to get AOL to start charging you again?

iatee, Thursday, 19 January 2012 00:19 (twelve years ago) link

al mcgore? xp

mookieproof, Thursday, 19 January 2012 00:19 (twelve years ago) link

Dude I remember what a b: drive was ffs!

thanks to denial, I'm immortal! (Trayce), Thursday, 19 January 2012 00:19 (twelve years ago) link

jesus multixpostarama.

thanks to denial, I'm immortal! (Trayce), Thursday, 19 January 2012 00:20 (twelve years ago) link

yeah better be some other damn kids, I was playing games off of 5-1/4" diskettes into kindergarten, b:\ for life xps

tinker tailor soldier sb (silby), Thursday, 19 January 2012 00:20 (twelve years ago) link

iatee I think they were just trying to be honest since they were no longer you know evaluating AOL for its suitability for Seniors in Cyberspace

tinker tailor soldier sb (silby), Thursday, 19 January 2012 00:21 (twelve years ago) link

they gave up trying to pay for it again after one or two tries of c.

tinker tailor soldier sb (silby), Thursday, 19 January 2012 00:21 (twelve years ago) link

ppfft, drives, we wished for a computer with 'drives'

(govtname)mac (darraghmac), Thursday, 19 January 2012 00:21 (twelve years ago) link

book fell through incidentally after a hard drive crash, my parents never became famous published internet experts

tinker tailor soldier sb (silby), Thursday, 19 January 2012 00:22 (twelve years ago) link

anybody else ever play "Baby Keys" in DOS

tinker tailor soldier sb (silby), Thursday, 19 January 2012 00:22 (twelve years ago) link

DOS? never had it so good, DOS i ask you

(govtname)mac (darraghmac), Thursday, 19 January 2012 00:23 (twelve years ago) link

aw man i briefly knew how to do really useful things like print the screen in assembly language

mookieproof, Thursday, 19 January 2012 00:24 (twelve years ago) link

The AOL account I got in '96 existed to exchange a few emails with friends for the better part of a year. The newsroom at which I was editor didn't get internet until fall '97, which meant Netscape. As for AOL, it served as my primary browser until 2001 or 2002, which I didn't mind because discovering the gay chatrooms in summer '99 made for a fabulous incentive to keep it.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 19 January 2012 00:25 (twelve years ago) link

gad I remember when Bowie posted "Telling Lies" as an INTERNET EXCLUSIVE in fall '96.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 19 January 2012 00:25 (twelve years ago) link

8" floppy disks on sun (unix) ftw tbh

I certainly wouldn't have, but hey. (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 19 January 2012 00:31 (twelve years ago) link

ppfft, drives, we wished for a computer with 'drives'

the disappointment of finally getting hands on a C64 disk drive and discovering it was like as slow as tape.

stet, Thursday, 19 January 2012 00:34 (twelve years ago) link

xp xenix, not unix

I certainly wouldn't have, but hey. (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 19 January 2012 00:34 (twelve years ago) link

our first computer worked on an eastern european knockoff called DONTS

(govtname)mac (darraghmac), Thursday, 19 January 2012 00:36 (twelve years ago) link

Bowie had one of the most exhaustive fansites I'd seen c. 1995, can't remember the name though...

Dancin with Mr. D__ (Ówen P.), Thursday, 19 January 2012 00:38 (twelve years ago) link

SunOS was the first thing i got on to the internet with. I used read usenet with rn and chat with irc. simultaneously awesome and awful. xp

stet, Thursday, 19 January 2012 00:39 (twelve years ago) link

I remember spending an inordinate amount of time trying to come up with a cool AIM name. for some reason I got 'tigreazul' and stuck with it until about '95. my friend had 'iraq' and sold it for $30.

rocognise gnome (remy bean), Thursday, 19 January 2012 00:41 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah my initial internettign was on the RMIT local usenet forums, and using PINE for mail and NN for usenet I think.

thanks to denial, I'm immortal! (Trayce), Thursday, 19 January 2012 00:41 (twelve years ago) link

at some point in my childhood my real father gave me flight simulator for christmas, but we didn't have a monitor capable of running it. so i read the instruction manual religiously for several months until my stepfather relented and bought a color monitor.

i still remember curiously much about the geography of the cities it featured: chicago, seattle, sf/oak, la, ny/bos.

rip meigs field

mookieproof, Thursday, 19 January 2012 00:42 (twelve years ago) link

so i read the instruction manual religiously for several months

Mookie I think I love you a little bit

stet, Thursday, 19 January 2012 00:58 (twelve years ago) link

Nn was like this wonder of software when I finally got it.

stet, Thursday, 19 January 2012 00:59 (twelve years ago) link

^

(govtname)mac (darraghmac), Thursday, 19 January 2012 00:59 (twelve years ago) link

aww i love you too, ilx system

mookieproof, Thursday, 19 January 2012 01:01 (twelve years ago) link

Wait did I use NN or TIN? I cant even remember :(

I do know my .plan file said something like "I wouldnt know a cunning .plan if it jumped up on a table singing "cunning .plans are here again"

thanks to denial, I'm immortal! (Trayce), Thursday, 19 January 2012 01:01 (twelve years ago) link

BowieNet, wasn't it?

Does bjork.com still have /unity/? Great URL.

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Thursday, 19 January 2012 01:40 (twelve years ago) link

Well jeez! I found it! 1996.

http://phil.cts.com/bowielps.html

Ha, it seems so small now. "Phil" stands up for Aladdin Sane and Pin Ups and I'm glad he did

Dancin with Mr. D__ (Ówen P.), Thursday, 19 January 2012 02:59 (twelve years ago) link

Designed for viewing with Netscape Navigator 3.0

<3 <3 <3

roborally.rar (Lamp), Thursday, 19 January 2012 03:02 (twelve years ago) link

I found it by searching "smashing atoms in the basement". Phil's Aladdin Sane write-up begins: One of Bowie's all-time best. Startled me when I first heard it, didn't know what to think. Wow, every track, no fat, except for the sound of that fat guitar smashing atoms in the basement.

Dancin with Mr. D__ (Ówen P.), Thursday, 19 January 2012 03:05 (twelve years ago) link

My middle school friend's AOL SN was Basketball. That's like having a state-issued license plate that's only 3 characters long

rubber belly hand necker (CaptainLorax), Thursday, 19 January 2012 05:37 (twelve years ago) link

http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/6073/screamtracker321.png

Yeah! Screamtracker. I made hundreds of tunes on its big brother, Impulse Tracker.

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Thursday, 19 January 2012 10:18 (twelve years ago) link

LOL I think R0bot still uses impulse tracker on occasion!

thanks to denial, I'm immortal! (Trayce), Thursday, 19 January 2012 10:48 (twelve years ago) link

Anyone still using IT (or who just misses it a lot) might like to take a look at Schism Tracker:
http://schismtracker.org
which is a free open source updated remake which is still being supported and has some new features (but still pretty much the same interface and most of the old key combos still work)

it will write your song to disk as a .wav, load .mp3 files as samples, has better midi and filters, and probably other stuff I don't know about

I feel like I can't really get on with modern music software because it's not enough like IT, but then I go back to Schism and realise I can't get on with IT any more because it's not enough like the things I've used in the 10 years since

Schleimpilz im Labyrinth (a passing spacecadet), Thursday, 19 January 2012 11:22 (twelve years ago) link

Trapped between the future and the past...

Also unknown as Zora (Surfing At Work), Thursday, 19 January 2012 11:44 (twelve years ago) link

Have you used/tried Buzz, spacecadet? Thats what r0bot (sorry, should explain: my ex bf; doglatin knows him, does excellent electro-prog music) uses and he seems to love it, it has accuracy IT doesnt, the only catch is live guitar parts have to be added in, from what I gather?)

thanks to denial, I'm immortal! (Trayce), Thursday, 19 January 2012 11:50 (twelve years ago) link

I feel like I can't really get on with modern music software because it's not enough like IT, but then I go back to Schism and realise I can't get on with IT any more because it's not enough like the things I've used in the 10 years since

This - absolutely. I was a master at using IT back in the day - could make it do all sorts of things it wasn't really designed to do, but then I got a new PC that wouldn't run it so I eventually migrated to Reason which just isn't the same. Once Schism Tracker came out, I couldn't remember anything about shortkey cuts, FX codes, anything.

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Thursday, 19 January 2012 11:57 (twelve years ago) link

tried Buzz too, but it seemed like a foreign country

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Thursday, 19 January 2012 11:57 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, Buzz is the main thing I've used since IT. It's a lot of fun to play with but I've made hundreds of 10- to 45-second loops and pretty much no complete songs in a decade of using it. (Well, not really a decade as I more or less gave up a few years ago.)

I always felt this was because it has so many shiny FX sliders to play with while playing your patterns on loop that I get distracted from the actual business of adding new patterns, whereas IT doesn't really afford you that luxury. It's my fault and not the software's that I fall for it, of course...

Schleimpilz im Labyrinth (a passing spacecadet), Thursday, 19 January 2012 12:12 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, same with Reason - I get a good thing going and suddenly it all goes wrong, like I add an fx or unplug something or try to get too clever with it, and then I'm just left with a messy 1 minute snippet with no beginning middle and end. The great thing about IT is you could copy and paste sections and parts really really really quickly using simple shortkey cuts. IT was such a simple program.

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Thursday, 19 January 2012 12:27 (twelve years ago) link


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