hilarious because I'm laughing at my own ignorance, and because holy shit did Chappelle cut deep with one throwaway comment
― mh, Wednesday, 18 January 2012 22:49 (twelve years ago) link
*rallies
btw I'm not arguing that they didn't do things that were sophisticated or that the average viewer wouldn't get, but I still don't think its a great descriptor of the show in general
― frogbs, Wednesday, 18 January 2012 22:51 (twelve years ago) link
I think Chappelle probably had a more nuanced view of race in America than any tv show in history
― 誤 means 訳. 訳 means 侮辱. (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 22:53 (twelve years ago) link
all in the family
― rocognise gnome (remy bean), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 22:54 (twelve years ago) link
nah man st:tng
― Dancin with Mr. D__ (Ówen P.), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 22:55 (twelve years ago) link
weren't the ferengi just supposed to be space-jewish?
― rocognise gnome (remy bean), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 22:57 (twelve years ago) link
SIMONTRIFE: haha ferengiRonan909: FERENGISIMONTRIFE: space-jews SIMONTRIFE: they were the bad space-jews, vulcans were the good space-jews SIMONTRIFE: vulcans have thousands of years of culture and arts and are very solemn and wise SIMONTRIFE: the ferengi control all the money and will screw you over for it
― Planned Perrintweet (some dude), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 22:57 (twelve years ago) link
besides some references to things more deep-seeded in black culture I'm not sure what it is the average viewer doesn't get. I think everyone understood that Chappelle was smarter with racial humor than most other shows.
btw it's been like 6-7 years since I last watched most of the episodes as I don't really find the show nearly as funny as I used to. so maybe some things did go over my head but I don't think the show was at all hard to get.
― frogbs, Wednesday, 18 January 2012 22:58 (twelve years ago) link
This is literally the first time I've heard "itis" or its etymological parent
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 18 January 2012 22:31 (21 minutes ago)
― (govtname)mac (darraghmac), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 22:58 (twelve years ago) link
(i was jk)
― Dancin with Mr. D__ (Ówen P.), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 23:01 (twelve years ago) link
everytime someone says/c&p's that i think "you've never heard the n-word?"
― Planned Perrintweet (some dude), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 23:02 (twelve years ago) link
you're tricksy like a romulan
― rocognise gnome (remy bean), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 23:02 (twelve years ago) link
"sophisticated" doesn't mean "hard to get," frogbs. thats something Community fans tell themselves while polishing the jizz and beard hair off their mensa cards
― 誤 means 訳. 訳 means 侮辱. (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 23:03 (twelve years ago) link
can a tv show be sophisticated about race
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 23:04 (twelve years ago) link
consider this: advertisements
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 23:05 (twelve years ago) link
the n word spelled itis
― (govtname)mac (darraghmac), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 23:08 (twelve years ago) link
― (govtname)mac (darraghmac), Wednesday, January 18, 2012 11:58 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― I certainly wouldn't have, but hey. (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 23:10 (twelve years ago) link
i thought everyone watched Chappelle, if you believe J0rdan S
― 誤 means 訳. 訳 means 侮辱. (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 23:10 (twelve years ago) link
talk of "the itis" is weird, because chapelle's show was where i first heard the contracted version and learned that it meant food coma.
when i was a teen, certain kids used the uncontracted version as a way of describing the (presumed) general laziness of black people.
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― Little GTFO (contenderizer), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 23:12 (twelve years ago) link
tis true, but it still smacks of something that people say to make their favorite shows appear more important than they actually were
I mean Chappelle's show has been eulogized and jizzed over so much since it went off the air that its almost jarring to watch it now and think "wait, this was it?", it's like calling Arrested Development "the smartest sitcom of all time" because it had better gay jokes
― frogbs, Wednesday, 18 January 2012 23:13 (twelve years ago) link
I'm not saying that Chappelle Show wasn't wildly hit or miss; because man, when that show was OFF, ugh. Plus it was like 90% filler, musical guests, commercials, bumpers and talking
― 誤 means 訳. 訳 means 侮辱. (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 23:16 (twelve years ago) link
it's like calling Arrested Development "the smartest sitcom of all time" because it had better gay jokes
uh p sure that was frasier tbf
― (govtname)mac (darraghmac), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 23:17 (twelve years ago) link
Right, I mean one of the things I remember most about Chappelle's show is how little content there actually was. I swear it had more commercials than any other show on the network. Its even worse now since entire sketches are built on premises that only really worked in 2003/2004. I get that it seemed to deal with race better than most but it still made a lot of the same jokes everyone else was.
― frogbs, Wednesday, 18 January 2012 23:19 (twelve years ago) link
thread needs more jizz
― Planned Perrintweet (some dude), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 23:21 (twelve years ago) link
whiney using omg BEARDS as shorthand for "the worst kind of people in the world" is like watching a guy attempt a shooting spree and putting a bullet into his own leg
― Planned Perrintweet (some dude), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 23:24 (twelve years ago) link
i think neck beards is implied
― 誤 means 訳. 訳 means 侮辱. (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 23:28 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.cjdaweasel.com/holder/jesusgun.jpg
― (govtname)mac (darraghmac), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 23:30 (twelve years ago) link
I am p surprised that ppl didn't know what the itis comes from. I think chapelle was maybe where I first heard it but have always known it from that meaning. Never heard anyone say it irl unless they meant it in that context. Nb most of the times I have heard it irl involved the kids I used to work with who used it more broadly just to mean laziness but not nec food induced.
― ENBB, Wednesday, 18 January 2012 23:30 (twelve years ago) link
I don't know any black ppl tbh
― tinker tailor soldier sb (silby), Thursday, 19 January 2012 00:35 (twelve years ago) link
Never heard 'itis' either. I got a kindle for Christmas and the first (free) book I downloaded was a genteel war-time British murder mystery with the actual n-bomb in there clear as day, it properly took me aback. Lol Agatha Christie.
― kinder, Thursday, 19 January 2012 01:32 (twelve years ago) link
Holy shit @ "itis."
I had ZERO clue.
I have used that word, but I'm pretty sure it started when I changed the words to the Happy Mondays song "Lazyitis."
I'm reviewing my 20s and 30s trying to remember if I've used that word in front of any black people b/c it's bad enough that I said it in my family.
― Je55e, Thursday, 19 January 2012 04:35 (twelve years ago) link
A few years ago I waited tables w/ a black girl. One evening our boss made her come in for her shift despite having a bad cold. While we were waiting to be sat she was sniffling and hacking and looking really miserable, so to show sympathy, I said, "Aww, who's a sick monkey?" and for a minute she rallied enough to set me straight about racist connotations of certain terms.
I honest to God had no idea that I was saying something racially charged. My mom called me a monkey, a friend and I sometimes affectionately called each other monkeys, and just never occurred to me that it might not always be OK to say.
It turned out OK. I apologized till I almost puked and told her I was a fucking oblivious jackass, and she didn't hold it against me, but fuck, what a stupid blind spot.
― Je55e, Thursday, 19 January 2012 05:12 (twelve years ago) link
the first (free) book I downloaded was a genteel war-time British murder mystery with the actual n-bomb in there clear as day, it properly took me aback. Lol Agatha Christie.
― kinder, Wednesday, January 18, 2012 5:32 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
original title of and then there were none = ten little n-bombs. no lie! was published in the UK under that title until the late 70s.
― Little GTFO (contenderizer), Thursday, 19 January 2012 05:24 (twelve years ago) link
Je55e's story is like the IRL version of this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0R3OjMcOqg
― 誤 means 訳. 訳 means 侮辱. (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 19 January 2012 05:26 (twelve years ago) link
When I was a server in college I kept hearing a couple of my coworkers talk about the "Canadians" seated in their section, usually in a negative light. The first couple times I was genuinely confused, but didn't ask because I was new to the job and a little shy. Anyway, a couple days later one of these same guys came up to me and goes, "you're new, I had the hostess move that table of Canadians to your section, they don't tip for shit". Once I walked out to the floor I saw that it was an oh so charming code for "black people". Reason #1,434 why central Illinois sucks.
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Thursday, 19 January 2012 05:27 (twelve years ago) link
Cant say I have ever in my life heard the "itis" phrase, not once, would have had no clue what it meant, but *might* have at least inferred close to it if I'd ever seen that Chapelle Show skit, which I havent (never seen any of that show tbh)
― thanks to denial, I'm immortal! (Trayce), Thursday, 19 January 2012 05:34 (twelve years ago) link
I haven't seen that Clerks scene in forever. I'd forgotten that his grandmother called him that. And Wanda Sykes!
Besides my being dumb I offer as an explanation the fact that I grew up near the Canadian border in Minnesota and Montana and the first time I ever met a black person was when visiting pastor came to our church when I was 11 or 12.
jvc, people in NC said that too.
― Je55e, Thursday, 19 January 2012 05:39 (twelve years ago) link
chapelle show was not a very good show just fyi
― roborally.rar (Lamp), Thursday, 19 January 2012 05:41 (twelve years ago) link
it was a very, very flawed show that occasionally had some of the best comedy ever on tv.
― 誤 means 訳. 訳 means 侮辱. (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 19 January 2012 05:42 (twelve years ago) link
http://gasface.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/breast-milk.jpg
― 誤 means 訳. 訳 means 侮辱. (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 19 January 2012 05:43 (twelve years ago) link
'one hot skit every ten episode average'
― roborally.rar (Lamp), Thursday, 19 January 2012 05:43 (twelve years ago) link
the unfunny things were so unfunny that it made me suspicious of the funny things
― iatee, Thursday, 19 January 2012 05:45 (twelve years ago) link
one to ten ratio seems about right
― iatee, Thursday, 19 January 2012 05:46 (twelve years ago) link
a friend was born in a very small and almost exclusively white/hispanic town, and i am told by her mother that upon first seeing a black person, in a supermarket at the approximate age of four, she shrieked, pointed and loudly asked "what's wrong with that lady?" plus exclamation points. her mom had to explain that there were black people. the lady in question was allegedly cool about it.
not sure i believe this, but it's freaky either way.
― Little GTFO (contenderizer), Thursday, 19 January 2012 05:47 (twelve years ago) link
yeah i had no idea that "uppity" was racially charged at all, we've been using that word for years but hey it happens
― frogbs, Thursday, 19 January 2012 06:00 (twelve years ago) link
the difference is most ppl would change their behavior
― 誤 means 訳. 訳 means 侮辱. (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 19 January 2012 06:13 (twelve years ago) link
― frogbs
― buzza, Thursday, 19 January 2012 06:46 (twelve years ago) link
Wait - "uppity" what? Is this a joke or am I missing something here? idgi.
Wanda Sykes in that scene was prob the best part of Clerks 2. Or when Jay does the Buff Bill Goodby Horses dance. That was good too.
― ENBB, Thursday, 19 January 2012 12:02 (twelve years ago) link
pussy troll was by some distance the highlight of clerks 2, come on now
― (govtname)mac (darraghmac), Thursday, 19 January 2012 12:05 (twelve years ago) link