I'm not really sure how it makes a show 'wildly sophisticated' if 90% of your white audience (and some % of your black audience?) isn't going to get a throwaway joke
― frogbs, Wednesday, 18 January 2012 22:20 (twelve years ago) link
Now the standard tv audience is doing this knowing nod "that's so racist, I'm not a racist" shuck and jive. That worked occasionally when you got the feeling the writers or performers were working from a post-racial stereotype angle and being ridiculous, but usually it's just lazy shorthand for "race humor is awkward, awkward is funny"
haha i cannot tell if mh is fucking with us by casually using "shuck and jive" in this way
― Planned Perrintweet (some dude), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 22:20 (twelve years ago) link
The itisFrom Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The itis is a Caribbean term in Black American Vernacular English to describe a condition of sleepiness associated with eating meats and sauces, a real human phenomena known as food coma. The term "itis" or "The itis" actually derives from its racial(ist) connotation "*****ritis" with the racist word later being dropped as usage of the term came to the U.S. This word derives from slave owners trying to describe why slaves did not want to work after eating. After slavery was abolished, their replacements (the Indian "coolies"鈥攁nother racist term) did such work in order to appease the former slave owners.
The foods commonly considered to be soul foods are generally high in both fat and carbohydrates, and are thus more likely to induce sleepiness. The suffix -itis, while used clinically to describe an inflammation, has come in the public mind to refer to any medical condition, along with -osis. With the advent of modern popular culture and the popularity of black comedians in the United States, the concept of the "Itis" has moved beyond its provincial roots and has become fairly well known throughout American culture, and to a certain extent beyond.
[edit] The itis in popular cultureComedian Dave Chappelle, on his program Chappelle's Show, featured a joke advertisement for a sleep aid specifically for black consumers known as "ribs," consisting of pork ribs cooked in barbeque sauce, explaining that it induces a state known as "the itis." Aaron McGruder's cartoon program The Boondocks featured an episode where the grandfather opened a soul food restaurant named "The Itis" serving the Luther Burger. Customers would reserve a table and, following their meal, would rent naptime in a bed provided by the restaurant.
You see when any person take food the blood is diverted to the 21 feet of intestine, hence reducing the amount of oxygen to brain, hence the body compensates by stopping all physical activities so that vital organs receive blood & oxygen . So the best option is put the person to sleep, a normal physiological phenomena.
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 22:20 (twelve years ago) link
lol are you guys for real that you couldn't actually infer that
― Bam! Orgasm explosion in your facehole. (DJP), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 22:21 (twelve years ago) link
Itis??? This is a "thing" that is, like, A THING?!? Have never heard it in my life, just watched Chapelle skit and it's making like two iotas more sense but not much.
xxxxxxxxxp holy shit
― It means why you gotta be a montague? (Laurel), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 22:21 (twelve years ago) link
had no idea (about 'itis' or the word it comes from)
― Mordy, Wednesday, 18 January 2012 22:21 (twelve years ago) link
unless you know the original slur, you would have no ability to make that inference!
― Mordy, Wednesday, 18 January 2012 22:22 (twelve years ago) link
"a real human phenomena known as food coma."
― Critique of Pure Moods (goole), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 22:22 (twelve years ago) link
SCIENCE
― Planned Perrintweet (some dude), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 22:22 (twelve years ago) link
This is literally the first time I've heard "itis" or its etymological parent
― Dancin with Mr. D__ (Ówen P.), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 22:22 (twelve years ago) link
"racial(ist)"
This phenomena is more common after lunch.
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 22:23 (twelve years ago) link
[/unsophistication]
― Dancin with Mr. D__ (Ówen P.), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 22:23 (twelve years ago) link
I must be hanging out with the right people (for a change), never heard so much as a stray mention.
― It means why you gotta be a montague? (Laurel), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 22:23 (twelve years ago) link
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Can regular doses of apirin cause anal bleeding and diarohea ?Not by itself. Aspirin is a blood thinner, so if you have other gastro-intestinal problems or hemmorhoids, it could.
...How do i go about raising money for myself so i can get gastric bypass surgery i so badly need ?Get a job.
still waiting to hear how this makes Chappelle more sophisticated than Tosh or MacFarlane (not saying he isn't, but this isn't really a good example)
― frogbs, Wednesday, 18 January 2012 22:23 (twelve years ago) link
frogs you are the dumbest asshole
― 誤 means 訳. 訳 means 侮辱. (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 22:25 (twelve years ago) link
:B
― ¯\(ツ)/¯ (am0n), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 22:26 (twelve years ago) link
maybe you should go back and watch the show again? christ dude fuck off then
― frogbs, Wednesday, 18 January 2012 22:26 (twelve years ago) link
I've heard of/regularly employed the term "the itis" but I never knew it was short for that. Whoops.
― nah (crüt), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 22:26 (twelve years ago) link
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 18 January 2012 22:31 (twelve years ago) link
I only assumed it was a generic term for coming down with something… bronchitis, labyrinthitis, blahblahblahitis, etc.
― pplains, Wednesday, 18 January 2012 22:32 (twelve years ago) link
Bf sez: "You don't know what it means b/c you don't smoke pot / didn't grow up watching In Living Colour"
― Dancin with Mr. D__ (Ówen P.), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 22:32 (twelve years ago) link
I'm mostly shocked that you guys didnt watch Chappelle's Show when it was on
― 誤 means 訳. 訳 means 侮辱. (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 22:34 (twelve years ago) link
I don't even own a TV
― I am that young sis, the beacon, a yardstick (dayo), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 22:35 (twelve years ago) link
smh @ an American adding a British u to an American TV show name
― nah (crüt), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 22:35 (twelve years ago) link
I did, but I guess I didn't catch some of the references.
Didn't get the sex jokes on Golden Girls in its original run either.
― pplains, Wednesday, 18 January 2012 22:36 (twelve years ago) link
he's canadian iirc
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 18 January 2012 22:36 (twelve years ago) link
well then, smh @ me
― nah (crüt), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 22:37 (twelve years ago) link
saying "In Living Colour" is not so much British as mixing it up with the similarly named popular band of the same era
― Planned Perrintweet (some dude), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 22:37 (twelve years ago) link
smuh
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 22:37 (twelve years ago) link
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I remember asking my mom what a condom was via a GG episode
― 誤 means 訳. 訳 means 侮辱. (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 22:38 (twelve years ago) link
GG ballin
― Planned Perrintweet (some dude), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 22:39 (twelve years ago) link
I did watch Chappelle's Show when it was on! Every episode, and bought the dvds years later, even though an ex still has them.
I honestly did not know the genesis of "the itis" and I am now finding it hilarious because Chappelle aimed high enough in that instance to go over my head with my lack of experience/knowledge. It's kind of awesome in a way that I didn't get everything and I should watch the show yet again.
nah, I just deploy terms like that on threads about racism without any ironic intent (lol)
― mh, Wednesday, 18 January 2012 22:39 (twelve years ago) link
funny that someone mentioned p.g. wodehouse cuz p.g. wodehouse was my first exposure to the nword; i had no idea what it was and in retrospect it's an amazing stroke of luck that i didn't use it out loud in the year or so between reading it and finding out what it meant
― occupy the A train (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 22:40 (twelve years ago) link
Actually I was quoting bf and he distinctly said "colour"
― Dancin with Mr. D__ (Ówen P.), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 22:40 (twelve years ago) link
"via" or "because of", because I really hope you mean "via"
"Mom, I have something to ask you... *presses play*"
― Bam! Orgasm explosion in your facehole. (DJP), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 22:40 (twelve years ago) link
^ I had the same thought, lol
― nah (crüt), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 22:41 (twelve years ago) link
lol
― Dancin with Mr. D__ (Ówen P.), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 22:41 (twelve years ago) link
what episode of gg was wgw on?
― pplains, Wednesday, 18 January 2012 22:46 (twelve years ago) link
I think this could accurately be described as "sophisticated" unless you go to like Ron Paul rallys
― 誤 means 訳. 訳 means 侮辱. (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 22:47 (twelve years ago) link
hilarious because I'm laughing at my own ignorance, and because holy shit did Chappelle cut deep with one throwaway comment
― mh, Wednesday, 18 January 2012 22:49 (twelve years ago) link
*rallies
btw I'm not arguing that they didn't do things that were sophisticated or that the average viewer wouldn't get, but I still don't think its a great descriptor of the show in general
― frogbs, Wednesday, 18 January 2012 22:51 (twelve years ago) link
I think Chappelle probably had a more nuanced view of race in America than any tv show in history
― 誤 means 訳. 訳 means 侮辱. (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 22:53 (twelve years ago) link
all in the family
― rocognise gnome (remy bean), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 22:54 (twelve years ago) link
nah man st:tng
― Dancin with Mr. D__ (Ówen P.), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 22:55 (twelve years ago) link
weren't the ferengi just supposed to be space-jewish?
― rocognise gnome (remy bean), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 22:57 (twelve years ago) link
SIMONTRIFE: haha ferengiRonan909: FERENGISIMONTRIFE: space-jews SIMONTRIFE: they were the bad space-jews, vulcans were the good space-jews SIMONTRIFE: vulcans have thousands of years of culture and arts and are very solemn and wise SIMONTRIFE: the ferengi control all the money and will screw you over for it
― Planned Perrintweet (some dude), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 22:57 (twelve years ago) link
besides some references to things more deep-seeded in black culture I'm not sure what it is the average viewer doesn't get. I think everyone understood that Chappelle was smarter with racial humor than most other shows.
btw it's been like 6-7 years since I last watched most of the episodes as I don't really find the show nearly as funny as I used to. so maybe some things did go over my head but I don't think the show was at all hard to get.
― frogbs, Wednesday, 18 January 2012 22:58 (twelve years ago) link