rolling "Is This Racist?" thread

are you seriously getting haughty about people underestimating the nuance of Seth MacFarlane

I'm getting haughty about people overestimating the nuance of Tosh.0!

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when was the last time you actually watched Family Guy

I watch it a lot at the gym b/c the machines I use are generally stationed in a place where I have to choose between that, "Uncover Boss", or "The X Factor", I don't know how many new-ish episodes I've seen but I've watched more of it than I want to admit

ie no they don't have a character buffer btwn the viewer and the depiction but i'd disagree that it's somehow a flat, literal and unironic statement of belief for all that

― Seriously, who votes for Drake? (Nicole), Wednesday, January 18, 2012 7:13 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

OTM. the family guy's misogyny is pervasive, nasty and seemingly undistanced. i find it much more offensive than the lol racism bullshit.

"uncover boss" sounds like the worst game show ever

depends on yr boss

now if you'll excuse me, I need to get Ms. Berry her latte

iunno man, like tosh is like the exact same anarchic attitude towatds humor that perpetuates "I'm Shithead" where like "funny = funny," and you're not supposed to think about how terrible it really is. I really think the internet is like a glowing id that lets people live out their basest shocky impulses to say the n-word and look at vaginas and laugh at car crash victims all day. Television shows should be commenting on that instead of reflecting it.

Like all the jokes in "I'm Shithead" really are like id shock buzzwords barely tramsmuted through "post-modern youtube culture": "anal," "asian," "AIDS," "black," "drunk."

thats sorta just comedy tho tbf

whiney what does your display name mean

thats sorta just comedy tho now tbf

― HOOS steen is it anyway? (Lamp), Wednesday, January 18, 2012 1:11 PM (31 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

kind of happy i have no idea what "i'm shithead" is beyond whiney's descriptions of it

dayo, i dunno, its a joek about unp3rs0n changing his display name to "誤訳侮辱"

Whiney is OTM here

oh man just watching that for the first time. what the fuck.

yah

"should be"...why?

i think you kind of have to realize there is a difference between finding someone funny or enjoying their show and wanting to emulate that person or thinking that you're full on endorsing that guy. though Tosh seems to be completely different in his interviews, even if he really is a terrible person I'd still enjoy his show.

Like all the jokes in "I'm Shithead" really are like id shock buzzwords barely tramsmuted through "post-modern youtube culture": "anal," "asian," "AIDS," "black," "drunk."

i get that, but this isn't really what Tosh does

Tosh played the video on his show!

no lie i had a dumb running joke with a friend of mine, years ago, that he should pretend "shithead" was like a classic irish name his family gave him

come to think of it, didn't someone do a "Sithéad O'Connor" d/n at some point?

thats sorta just comedy tho now tbf

i should do a whole whiney style post w/ outraged hyperbole that paraphrases your post but its a stuffy victorian lady complaining abt punch and judy hahaha but yknow

i dont think yr wrong really and the sort of casually knowing distancing that shows like family guy engage in that some ppl seem to think allows them to reinforce racist thinking w/o being complicit in 'racism' is gross and all over the place and tired. but the unsanctioned id is p central to what lots of comedy has always done and it pains me to admit it but frogsters kinda right: its either funnie or its not and if ribald and bawdy and racist offends cool peace theres always p.g. wodehouse novels and collections of newyorker cartoons

p.g. wodehouse was pretty racist, dude

Television shows should be commenting on that instead of reflecting it.

― 誤 means 訳. 訳 means 侮辱. (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, January 18, 2012 1:08 PM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

isn't that what Tosh does by playing "I'm Shithead" on his show and constructing jokes around it? i mean ok big devil's advocate argument there.

p.g. wodehouse was pretty racist, dude

JOEKS

:D slow

Yeah, I'm sure that episode had some real tut-tutting and finger-wagging from Daniel Tosh

wow goole that is incredibly offen- nah fuckit who'm i kidding

well again i haven't seen it or the bit he did. but a lot of times when he shows a video he'll do like 10 jokes of it and half of them are at the expense of whatever the original joke is and then half of them are more subtly about the people who made the video and/or the people who made it popular on youtube. (xpost)

anyway lamp has a point, cutting through your most polite and considerate instincts with something silly or mean or wrong is a HUGE part of comedy and is neither purely a good thing or a bad thing, which is all the more reason to try to be discriminating about this sort of thing and seperate the stuff from the stuff

pg wodehouse str8 up hated everyone except jeeves

whoa im shithead is pretty weird

yes, "weird"...

i feel like im missing something about it

like its so *unnecessarily* racist

don't feel like it needs a giant amount of explication tbh

the necessity line is a tricky one with racism tbf

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Whiney OTM re Tosh

well again i haven't seen it or the bit he did. but a lot of times when he shows a video he'll do like 10 jokes of it and half of them are at the expense of whatever the original joke is and then half of them are more subtly about the people who made the video and/or the people who made it popular on youtube. (xpost)

yeah I thought this was pretty great when he did the "child porn" segment (where children would act out famous porno scenes in more or less innocent ways), where the joke soon became about the desperate parents who actually allowed their children to be used in this way.

famous porno scenes?

yeah, stuff like "shake that bear"

he really stuck it to those parents, what a great commentary on this thing that he himself constructed

unless the cp thing was a viral vid i missed

think youre kinda missing the point

doosh.0

I didn't watch the "I'm Shithead" tosh segment but I'm really gonna be surprised if the subtext is "you're racist for enjoying this thing we put on national TV"

haha that's the subtext of every Tosh segment though

errr aint no sub about it

I didn't watch the "I'm Shithead" tosh segment but I'm really gonna be surprised if the subtext is "you're racist for enjoying this thing we put on national TV"

i didnt see it either but i don't think he really calls out the audience much - usually just the people who make the videos