Skrillex is gonna be the new Gerry Rafferty in 10 years time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVSTr7rb1_Y
― I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Tuesday, 17 January 2012 16:48 (twelve years ago) link
Wondering where this ranks on the brostep charts (at least there's a drop):https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mDdP82eBLM&feature=related
― EDB, Thursday, 19 January 2012 21:00 (twelve years ago) link
dont really feel like thats brostep
― ⚓ (gr8080), Thursday, 19 January 2012 22:36 (twelve years ago) link
Not even remotely
― Number None, Friday, 20 January 2012 11:44 (twelve years ago) link
http://img560.imageshack.us/img560/2892/missum.jpg
― memoirs of an obtuse angle (tpp), Friday, 20 January 2012 21:05 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_JUlXh7sP8
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 20 January 2012 21:06 (twelve years ago) link
^^^love that
― the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Friday, 20 January 2012 21:11 (twelve years ago) link
omg markers = skrillex
― Another Wein bites the dust (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 20 January 2012 22:28 (twelve years ago) link
i just made a slow, pretty brostep track to see if it would work. minimal ambient wobbles.
and here it is: http://theprojectlodge.bandcamp.com/track/halogen-2
― the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Monday, 23 January 2012 15:56 (twelve years ago) link
fwiw, thats a 'shop: skrillex posted an aphex twin song not "miss you"
― ⚓ (gr8080), Monday, 23 January 2012 22:59 (twelve years ago) link
dave cool elsewhere in the world:
I'm trying to be the guy that defends brostep, but you guys are making it extra fucking hard:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpXEXBZH-VE
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 16 February 2012 16:24 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2QT_jaf2-c
― ⚓ (gr8080), Sunday, 19 February 2012 04:12 (twelve years ago) link
#SKRILLWAVE
#DROPCORE
#MALLSTEP
― Chris S, Sunday, 19 February 2012 12:38 (twelve years ago) link
on a big genre coinage trip lately
― Chris S, Sunday, 19 February 2012 12:39 (twelve years ago) link
this isn't brostep but man it feels like it
Avicii - "Levels"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJ91VPOgasQ
this is going to soundtrack so many questionable mardi gras moments it's not even funny
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 13:52 (twelve years ago) link
i know "Levels" is a few months old now, but i just finally realized that this song i'd been hearing everywhere actually is a song that has a name and not kind of background memory-amalgam of every other middling euro anthem i've ever heard
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 13:53 (twelve years ago) link
i've never actually heard the original just remixes before, i'd actually picked up quality's raved-out bmore club mix
http://soundcloud.com/unorthodoxquality/aviici-levels-qualo-more-remix
re: the original it sounds more standard clubhouse / trance than *step though
― fauxmarc, Tuesday, 21 February 2012 15:07 (twelve years ago) link
k
― fauxmarc, Tuesday, 21 February 2012 15:08 (twelve years ago) link
big, loud, obnoxious, electronic, not dubstep
― ⚓ (gr8080), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 18:05 (twelve years ago) link
not brostep*
closer to david guetta ibiza-fart
― ⚓ (gr8080), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 18:09 (twelve years ago) link
ibiza bloodfart
― The Reverend, Tuesday, 21 February 2012 18:31 (twelve years ago) link
lol was that the original term whiney coined?
― ⚓ (gr8080), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 19:45 (twelve years ago) link
yeah
― The Reverend, Tuesday, 21 February 2012 20:40 (twelve years ago) link
lol gr8 term
― ⚓ (gr8080), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 20:52 (twelve years ago) link
can I just
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bEDM4bsfWg
― the tune is space, Saturday, 25 February 2012 21:41 (twelve years ago) link
I mean that video / "song" / look / aesthetic combo is like a perfect storm of bad taste of Chernobyl proportions so . . . be warned
but does it technically belong here because it uses that dubstep-lite beat ala Magnetic Man "I need Air", even thought it doesn't have a wub wub drop?
― the tune is space, Saturday, 25 February 2012 21:46 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, it's attractive
― Little GTFO (contenderizer), Saturday, 25 February 2012 21:50 (twelve years ago) link
no wub no wub
― Little GTFO (contenderizer), Saturday, 25 February 2012 21:51 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4TnMHwikRY
― Chris S, Saturday, 14 April 2012 21:44 (twelve years ago) link
everything about that is brostep
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIv-qsH40m0
― fauxmarc, Wednesday, 23 May 2012 15:14 (eleven years ago) link
lol
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 23 May 2012 18:17 (eleven years ago) link
It's been a long time since a blogpost made me do a complete 180 on a genre, but this piece from Leaving Earth on wobble is officially my favorite thing ever right now - 10 WOBBLE RECORDS
Some of Taninian's recommended jams from 21C rave:
Wicky Lindows label
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74oSuCAu1Jk
Nevamis: Nevamis EP (Down South Dub, 2008)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PDavUTeRYY
Akira Kiteshi: Pinball (Black Acre, 2009)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veupiMmt6gg
Borgore: Borgore Ruined Dubstep part 2 (Buygore, 2010)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFOnFdLPZ1Q
Silent Frequencies/Document One: Game Over EP (Neostep, 2011)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11Gjk0QbQ_I
― MikoMcha, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 18:38 (eleven years ago) link
"What did the dj play at your prom," I asked. "Too much brostep," my son responded.
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 19:00 (eleven years ago) link
Kids today.
― MikoMcha, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 19:08 (eleven years ago) link
What I like about this account is that hardcore continuum discussions in my experience have tended to emphasize the UK pirate radio thread the past few years, from breakbeat through to jungle, d'n'b, ukg, dubstep/grime, etc. So that this style could only ever be viewed as an outside influence highjacking the sound and 'ruining' it. But that post from Taninian makes a compelling case for this being the return of Eurorave and trashy glory era of hardcore, especially things like Belgian hardcore based on electronic dance riffs (with the wobble replacing the mentasm), and a rollercoaster madness of spectacular special fx with b-grade sci-fi/horror samples. Plus a deliberate attempt to break all categories of taste and generally piss people off.
Leaving the Earth more or less makes the case above. Maybe this is all really obvious, but I honestly hadn't bothered paying attention to dubstep for a long while, and when this stuff started coming out, I was equally indifferent until I had to develop some opinion on Skrillex.
One thing that maybe changes, however, is that wobble/brostep fully embraces digital and networked technologies, so it has this hiding in the light quality, and an output on YouTube, soundcloud, MP3 mixes, etc. that dwarfs earlier excesses of rave over-production, also probably a wider hit to miss ratio.
Anyway, Reynolds has some thoughts over here: http://blissout.blogspot.nl/2012/06/and-from-one-black-sheep-of-postrave.html - including a shout-out to the 'ambient/intelligent' response to wobble with dungeon-style dubstep, which after some Googling I discover is also a thing that exists. I've gotta say, this sample track is dope:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=AZ-Cv8SG0KU
Anyway, sorry for the semi-serious post btw, not even sure this is the right thread to post on. Probably not. It's just some of this stuff has got me amped the past day or so, I don't have a blog so I post here. Not sure if any ilxors actually listens to any of this style?
― MikoMcha, Thursday, 7 June 2012 09:30 (eleven years ago) link
Anyway, sorry for the semi-serious post btw
Nothing to feel sorry about
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 7 June 2012 14:48 (eleven years ago) link
not exactly his fault but lol @ SR doing another wobble-themed blog post yesterday and banging on about eastern European cinema rather than the actual source of the title, Nathan Barley
― geezargh butlargh (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 7 June 2012 15:17 (eleven years ago) link
SR very much in character
― mh, Thursday, 7 June 2012 15:24 (eleven years ago) link
I know people who make this style of music, run nights and play it out here in Amsterdam. And I have to admit I was really beyond dismissive. Now I'm thinking there's certainly more going on. Not sure if I'm ready to check it out live though!
― MikoMcha, Thursday, 7 June 2012 15:57 (eleven years ago) link
Re: SR in character, yeah but this is when he's actually worth reading. I'd even say that Leaving Earth out-Reynolds him on this! ;) That grunt-step quote about the cyber-pigs with the green ooze for this Tomba track below is classic. I've been thinking about it all week...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sq7z6TEpGOw
― MikoMcha, Thursday, 7 June 2012 16:00 (eleven years ago) link
Not being at work to listen to these, I'm not sure I understand... Are people saying that this kind of music is now worth listening to? Or is this a different style? Cos I'd hate to say I told you so...
― Scary Move 4 (dog latin), Thursday, 7 June 2012 16:09 (eleven years ago) link
Sorry, I mis-typed that. I'm at work and can't listen to these, is what I meant. Also - hasn't dubstep been truly mainstream for at least 18 months or more now? IDGI
― Scary Move 4 (dog latin), Thursday, 7 June 2012 16:10 (eleven years ago) link
I don't think anyone is saying it isn't mainstream.
― MikoMcha, Thursday, 7 June 2012 16:25 (eleven years ago) link
Must have misread the SR blog then... oh well
― Scary Move 4 (dog latin), Thursday, 7 June 2012 16:26 (eleven years ago) link
I love the way it pisses of all sort of old guards (within dupstep or otherwise), and the fact that its bloody everywhere, with tons of crap being pumped out. That’s how it should be, a sign that it truly have made an impact. I can’t say the current dubstep mainstream (“brostep”, or “EDM”, apparently) does that much for me, but then, I haven’t expected it to do so. Rather than bandwagon jumping drum’n’bass producers, the wobble aesthetic now seem to be fusing with electro house, to form a new all purpose rave music, much like punk rawness/intensity eventually ended up as a part of a wider “real rock” sensibility in the eighties. It’s all about the Skrillex/ Deadmau5-axis, of course, and while Deadmau5 doesn’t seem all that exiting to me, Skrillex is actually pretty good. Sure, he might not have that many tricks up his sleeve so far, and the electro house part of the equation is a bit of a drawback, but he’s nevertheless really good at using wobbles potential for catchiness and dynamics, redefining it to meet his own ends. It would be tempting to go all the way and see him as some sort of, I dunno, dubsteps Sex Pistols, but that would be taking it too far. Perhaps something like Metallica is probably a better comparison, if a historical comparison have to be made.
― MikoMcha, Thursday, 7 June 2012 16:33 (eleven years ago) link
My own view of all this is kind of informed by the fact that a friend of mine makes and plays dubstep that, while not quite as in your face as a lot of stuff itt, definitely leans toward the populist side of the genre, and it's all really enjoyable and fun to dance to if I'm in the right mood. And so that has me feeling more charitable towards a lot of this stuff than I was on initial contact.
― they loooovin the crut (The Reverend), Thursday, 7 June 2012 17:24 (eleven years ago) link
including a shout-out to the 'ambient/intelligent' response to wobble with dungeon-style dubstep, which after some Googling I discover is also a thing that exists
there is already a "coffee table bass" thread on ILM
tell you what, though, arguing something is good because it pisses the wrong people off is not going to get me to listen to it
― the late great, Thursday, 7 June 2012 17:32 (eleven years ago) link
seriously, a tired argument. icp's music pisses people off - so great, they made an impact. it's still wack.
― fauxmarc, Thursday, 7 June 2012 17:35 (eleven years ago) link