Lana Del Rey

This is the first time I'd seen her and the second time I'd ever heard her song.

Emphasis on "people"

turns out it's jocelyn wildenstein doing chris isaak covers.

Love it.

I mean, Marianne Faithfull is no less drowsy.

another strong defense

as long as there are nice people who haven't heard much of Lana Del Rey but have certainly heard worse, there remains hope for her yet

lilsoulbro surely there are more 'people' who saw her perform for the first time on SNL than people who watched every live youtube before the show

Well I think the people who complain are the ones who keep up with music news on the internet and are aware of those NYC performance/European TV performances or seen the videos posted during her Lizzy Grant days. For people who mostly get their exposure from TV and the like of course they wouldn't know.

i wonder, honestly!

xp

i guess that depends on if you're talking about people commenting on the performance itt, or on the web in general. pretty unlikely on the latter front, more likely but still not all that certain on the former.

Well I can't speak for other people, but since I took a day or two to see what LDR is all about I chalked it all up on bad media campaigning on the Lizzy Grant thing and lack of performance training given to her (Do they still do that btw? For god sakes, if you spend all that money on clothes and shit they can throw a few dollars with a singing and/or performance coach).

But since most people think the music industry is a conduit to their fantasy rather a business like everything else where the product (i.e. artist/group) is successful or not of course people think LDR is the worst thing ever and represents all what is wrong with America. Meaning a pretty, rich white girl who has no talent getting media exposure. Though things are not always that clear cut.

I think she has talent but she needs to figure out how to improve

Mrs. Redd just informed me that Brian Williams either blogged or tweeted his negative opinion of the "brooklyn hipster" under discussion in this thread. This thing has gone worldwide!

Supposedly it was in a private e-mail to Nick Denton that Gawker, for some reason, decided to publish.

I read that as "Brian Wilson" for a second and was puzzled.

like i am watching Blue Jeans again and rooting for her all over again because honestly she is just VERY BIZARRE, in a way that she seems not really in control of, as if there are at least three or four separate homunculi inside her attempting to incant the charm that will release them (none of them, as DJP notes, particularly communicating with the others)

― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, January 16, 2012 4:32 AM (9 hours ago) Bookmark

feel like this post didn't get the love it deserved

Too many posts, didn't otm

Xposts

How's the guitar practice, Dan?

I was just trying some C and E/Emin/Emin7 chords but had to stop because ow fingers

So, back to brushing up my German!

My buddy just told me that LDR is essentially Ginny the drunk bride from Sixteen Candles and I was like YESSSS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clGpZdf3bwY&feature=related

this is almost not recognizable as being the same person who was so terrible on SNL; the "she was terrified" argument seems to be looking better and better

How's the guitar practice, Dan?

I was just trying some C and E/Emin/Emin7 chords but had to stop because ow fingers

So, back to brushing up my German!

― Bam! Orgasm explosion in your facehole. (DJP), Monday, January 16, 2012 5:45 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Fmaj can SUCK MY DICK

been practicing lately

haven't picked up the guitar in a while but it's good y'all are

My buddy just told me that LDR is essentially Ginny the drunk bride from Sixteen Candles and I was like YESSSS

Does that make Cat Power Ally Sheedy in Breakfast Club?

she holds the microphone like it's a dick...she cups the balls

if she sucks a dick with the enthusiasm she sings it probably takes her hours to get a dude off jesus

tbf he's probably playing halo while she does it

Why the fuck does everyone in the press need to have a god damn opinion about this chick? I dont get how whiney finds at acceptable top treat the eight rappers he heard about from me first like totally marginal unknowns but when this chick says she likes the fucking waffle zombie rapper meme it becomes a huge music writer event. Why is this crap bleeding into hip hop press? Jesus

I think there's some truth to Lex's argument (which I'm very loosely paraphrasing but I think he'd agree with the following) that probably the biggest upshot of the indie rock press broadening its focus beyond indie rock is that non-indie-rock music circles now feel more pressure to impress the indie rock press, its readers etc.

It's easy to impress the indie rock press. Just show them a two-bedroom apartment.

another upshot of indie press focus broadening is that a much broader range of music is now liable to be associated with indie culture and wrestled with in that patented love/loathe kneejerk fashion. corollary to the emergence of ostensibly non-indie music that in one way or another is seemingly targeted at or reflective of indie sensibilities.

the weekned

which i guess just restates lex via tim F

did i make that argument? i don't remember it but i agree! maybe tim is just stating it in a more coherent way as ever.

i do remember rev alluding on some thread to indie rock as aspirational for african americans, which i'd like him to expand on.

deej your annoyance here is ridiculous considering that recently you were telling me that all critics have a duty to follow the ~conversation~ and ~hyped acts~

as bloghyped acts go i think LDR is pretty interesting tbh, so i'm just gonna enjoy one of the rare times the ~conversation~ doesn't annoy me.

"deej your annoyance here is ridiculous considering that recently you were telling me that all critics have a duty to follow the ~conversation~ and ~hyped acts~"

i've never said this u doofus, i've said you should be aware of the general framing of the discussion & how it relates to lots of other things, like relative popularity & what kinds of things people respond to in the music & etc.

you thinking Drake is a 'hyped act' instead of an 'insanely popular act' is pure confusion

I don't think they'd really be the same points anyway - rap critics and fans caring about what Lana Del Rey thinks is like politicians thinking they have to have an opinion on celebrity news.

only if they specifically exclude non-rap from their remit though? is that an effect of single-genre critics rubbing along closer to generalist critics?

Well I mean caring about what Lana Del Rey thinks about rap.

But yes probably a lot of this is a result of the fact that all the circles of conversation are closer to one another now.

oh i thought this was just rap critics opining on LDR in general. has anyone been talking about what she thinks about rap?! i haven't seen it. i've no idea what she thinks about rap. (i'm not asking either.)

but when this chick says she likes the fucking waffle zombie rapper meme it becomes a huge music writer event.

what the fuck is the waffle zombie rapper meme

i'm not asking there, either

i suspect that the problem with people talking about...that thing is not LDR specifically

I suspect the venn diagram of writers who give a shit about either is basically a circle through hangover-eyes.

Why is this crap bleeding into hip hop press?

The Billboard profile linked upthread notes that she's worked with hip-hop producers.

Also, you know, she's good for traffic, especially at sites that need to wring the tiniest drop of "news" out of anything crossing their transom in order to keep the post quotient high.

basically, ayo blogger idiots

ok we're gonna do SOPA blackout day on Wednesday, and Lana Del Rey blackout day on Thursday aight

raci- oh, blackOUT

nvrmind

basically, ayo blogger idiots

truer words, etc

the "blogosphere" is long overdue an augean stables style cleanout imo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuPBYkfjWRc

the weekned

My days feel like them.

it worked!