Makes sense that she's getting a crazy push now when music programmers are figuring out how to fill the place currently held on radio and at the mall by "Someone Like You."
― do you not like slouching? (Eazy), Monday, 16 January 2012 19:24 (twelve years ago) link
most interesting thing about being away from ILX is coming back to find out what people have been losing their shit over for the past six months. turns out it's jocelyn wildenstein doing chris isaak covers. cool.
― Little GTFO (contenderizer), Monday, 16 January 2012 19:25 (twelve years ago) link
I still haven't heard the studio version--this is all I'd seen/heard:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOP2Yd_jpYQ
Is this one of the bad ones?
― do you not like slouching? (Eazy), Monday, 16 January 2012 19:26 (twelve years ago) link
You can only compare the live versions with the studio version if you actually hear the studio version
― I certainly wouldn't have, but hey. (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 16 January 2012 19:28 (twelve years ago) link
That Jools clip considerably less lolzy, just drowsy.
― da croupier, Monday, 16 January 2012 19:30 (twelve years ago) link
contenderizer killin it
― blood jessica shirt (some dude), Monday, 16 January 2012 19:30 (twelve years ago) link
orm
― What We Did on Our POLLidays (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 16 January 2012 19:31 (twelve years ago) link
Ha, I meant otm
ormless
― HOOS steen is it anyway? (Lamp), Monday, 16 January 2012 19:32 (twelve years ago) link
im glad to see contenderizer back
― Jimmy Riddle Orchestra (Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker), Monday, 16 January 2012 19:32 (twelve years ago) link
jocelyn wildenstein doing chris isaak covers
A+
― polyphonic, Monday, 16 January 2012 19:34 (twelve years ago) link
This is the first time I'd seen her and the second time I'd ever heard her song.
Emphasis on "people"
― Tired of these edcuated basic bitches. (lilsoulbrother), Monday, 16 January 2012 19:37 (twelve years ago) link
turns out it's jocelyn wildenstein doing chris isaak covers.
Love it.
I mean, Marianne Faithfull is no less drowsy.
― do you not like slouching? (Eazy), Monday, 16 January 2012 19:38 (twelve years ago) link
another strong defense
― da croupier, Monday, 16 January 2012 19:44 (twelve years ago) link
as long as there are nice people who haven't heard much of Lana Del Rey but have certainly heard worse, there remains hope for her yet
― da croupier, Monday, 16 January 2012 19:46 (twelve years ago) link
lilsoulbro surely there are more 'people' who saw her perform for the first time on SNL than people who watched every live youtube before the show
― blood jessica shirt (some dude), Monday, 16 January 2012 20:06 (twelve years ago) link
Well I think the people who complain are the ones who keep up with music news on the internet and are aware of those NYC performance/European TV performances or seen the videos posted during her Lizzy Grant days. For people who mostly get their exposure from TV and the like of course they wouldn't know.
― Tired of these edcuated basic bitches. (lilsoulbrother), Monday, 16 January 2012 20:08 (twelve years ago) link
i wonder, honestly!
xp
― Critique of Pure Moods (goole), Monday, 16 January 2012 20:08 (twelve years ago) link
i guess that depends on if you're talking about people commenting on the performance itt, or on the web in general. pretty unlikely on the latter front, more likely but still not all that certain on the former.
― blood jessica shirt (some dude), Monday, 16 January 2012 20:09 (twelve years ago) link
Well I can't speak for other people, but since I took a day or two to see what LDR is all about I chalked it all up on bad media campaigning on the Lizzy Grant thing and lack of performance training given to her (Do they still do that btw? For god sakes, if you spend all that money on clothes and shit they can throw a few dollars with a singing and/or performance coach).
But since most people think the music industry is a conduit to their fantasy rather a business like everything else where the product (i.e. artist/group) is successful or not of course people think LDR is the worst thing ever and represents all what is wrong with America. Meaning a pretty, rich white girl who has no talent getting media exposure. Though things are not always that clear cut.
I think she has talent but she needs to figure out how to improve
― Tired of these edcuated basic bitches. (lilsoulbrother), Monday, 16 January 2012 20:39 (twelve years ago) link
Mrs. Redd just informed me that Brian Williams either blogged or tweeted his negative opinion of the "brooklyn hipster" under discussion in this thread. This thing has gone worldwide!
― What We Did on Our POLLidays (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 16 January 2012 21:26 (twelve years ago) link
Supposedly it was in a private e-mail to Nick Denton that Gawker, for some reason, decided to publish.
― Girl I want to take you to a JBR (jaymc), Monday, 16 January 2012 21:29 (twelve years ago) link
I read that as "Brian Wilson" for a second and was puzzled.
― St3ve Go1db3rg, Monday, 16 January 2012 21:36 (twelve years ago) link
like i am watching Blue Jeans again and rooting for her all over again because honestly she is just VERY BIZARRE, in a way that she seems not really in control of, as if there are at least three or four separate homunculi inside her attempting to incant the charm that will release them (none of them, as DJP notes, particularly communicating with the others)
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, January 16, 2012 4:32 AM (9 hours ago) Bookmark
feel like this post didn't get the love it deserved
― fighting growlbacks bottomless spirit pit (reddening), Monday, 16 January 2012 21:58 (twelve years ago) link
Too many posts, didn't otm
― What We Did on Our POLLidays (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 16 January 2012 22:05 (twelve years ago) link
Xposts
How's the guitar practice, Dan?
I was just trying some C and E/Emin/Emin7 chords but had to stop because ow fingers
So, back to brushing up my German!
― Bam! Orgasm explosion in your facehole. (DJP), Monday, 16 January 2012 23:45 (twelve years ago) link
My buddy just told me that LDR is essentially Ginny the drunk bride from Sixteen Candles and I was like YESSSS
― polyphonic, Monday, 16 January 2012 23:54 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clGpZdf3bwY&feature=related
this is almost not recognizable as being the same person who was so terrible on SNL; the "she was terrified" argument seems to be looking better and better
― Bam! Orgasm explosion in your facehole. (DJP), Tuesday, 17 January 2012 00:19 (twelve years ago) link
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Fmaj can SUCK MY DICK
been practicing lately
― the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 17 January 2012 00:50 (twelve years ago) link
haven't picked up the guitar in a while but it's good y'all are
― markers, Tuesday, 17 January 2012 00:55 (twelve years ago) link
Does that make Cat Power Ally Sheedy in Breakfast Club?
― do you not like slouching? (Eazy), Tuesday, 17 January 2012 02:27 (twelve years ago) link
she holds the microphone like it's a dick...she cups the balls
― NZA, Tuesday, 17 January 2012 03:57 (twelve years ago) link
if she sucks a dick with the enthusiasm she sings it probably takes her hours to get a dude off jesus
― NZA, Tuesday, 17 January 2012 04:13 (twelve years ago) link
tbf he's probably playing halo while she does it
― iatee, Tuesday, 17 January 2012 04:14 (twelve years ago) link
Why the fuck does everyone in the press need to have a god damn opinion about this chick? I dont get how whiney finds at acceptable top treat the eight rappers he heard about from me first like totally marginal unknowns but when this chick says she likes the fucking waffle zombie rapper meme it becomes a huge music writer event. Why is this crap bleeding into hip hop press? Jesus
― I Love Pedantry (D-40), Tuesday, 17 January 2012 06:18 (twelve years ago) link
I think there's some truth to Lex's argument (which I'm very loosely paraphrasing but I think he'd agree with the following) that probably the biggest upshot of the indie rock press broadening its focus beyond indie rock is that non-indie-rock music circles now feel more pressure to impress the indie rock press, its readers etc.
― Tim F, Tuesday, 17 January 2012 07:01 (twelve years ago) link
It's easy to impress the indie rock press. Just show them a two-bedroom apartment.
― polyphonic, Tuesday, 17 January 2012 07:03 (twelve years ago) link
another upshot of indie press focus broadening is that a much broader range of music is now liable to be associated with indie culture and wrestled with in that patented love/loathe kneejerk fashion. corollary to the emergence of ostensibly non-indie music that in one way or another is seemingly targeted at or reflective of indie sensibilities.
the weekned
― Little GTFO (contenderizer), Tuesday, 17 January 2012 07:20 (twelve years ago) link
which i guess just restates lex via tim F
― Little GTFO (contenderizer), Tuesday, 17 January 2012 07:24 (twelve years ago) link
did i make that argument? i don't remember it but i agree! maybe tim is just stating it in a more coherent way as ever.
i do remember rev alluding on some thread to indie rock as aspirational for african americans, which i'd like him to expand on.
deej your annoyance here is ridiculous considering that recently you were telling me that all critics have a duty to follow the ~conversation~ and ~hyped acts~
as bloghyped acts go i think LDR is pretty interesting tbh, so i'm just gonna enjoy one of the rare times the ~conversation~ doesn't annoy me.
― irina-camelia begu (lex pretend), Tuesday, 17 January 2012 11:23 (twelve years ago) link
"deej your annoyance here is ridiculous considering that recently you were telling me that all critics have a duty to follow the ~conversation~ and ~hyped acts~"
i've never said this u doofus, i've said you should be aware of the general framing of the discussion & how it relates to lots of other things, like relative popularity & what kinds of things people respond to in the music & etc.
― I Love Pedantry (D-40), Tuesday, 17 January 2012 11:25 (twelve years ago) link
you thinking Drake is a 'hyped act' instead of an 'insanely popular act' is pure confusion
― I Love Pedantry (D-40), Tuesday, 17 January 2012 11:26 (twelve years ago) link
I don't think they'd really be the same points anyway - rap critics and fans caring about what Lana Del Rey thinks is like politicians thinking they have to have an opinion on celebrity news.
― Tim F, Tuesday, 17 January 2012 11:28 (twelve years ago) link
only if they specifically exclude non-rap from their remit though? is that an effect of single-genre critics rubbing along closer to generalist critics?
― irina-camelia begu (lex pretend), Tuesday, 17 January 2012 11:37 (twelve years ago) link
Well I mean caring about what Lana Del Rey thinks about rap.
But yes probably a lot of this is a result of the fact that all the circles of conversation are closer to one another now.
― Tim F, Tuesday, 17 January 2012 11:40 (twelve years ago) link
oh i thought this was just rap critics opining on LDR in general. has anyone been talking about what she thinks about rap?! i haven't seen it. i've no idea what she thinks about rap. (i'm not asking either.)
― irina-camelia begu (lex pretend), Tuesday, 17 January 2012 11:48 (twelve years ago) link
but when this chick says she likes the fucking waffle zombie rapper meme it becomes a huge music writer event.
― Tim F, Tuesday, 17 January 2012 11:54 (twelve years ago) link
what the fuck is the waffle zombie rapper meme
i'm not asking there, either
― irina-camelia begu (lex pretend), Tuesday, 17 January 2012 11:56 (twelve years ago) link