Lana Del Rey

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judith, Monday, 16 January 2012 19:16 (twelve years ago) link

I'd listened to "Video Games" lots, but this is the first time I'd heard her live. The disconnect was jarring.

Girl I want to take you to a JBR (jaymc), Monday, 16 January 2012 19:16 (twelve years ago) link

someone did post a video where she seemed p good. i feel like its an act that needs an old pro though. the problem w/ buzz cycles is that in this case they're demanding something that is hardly realistic.

judith, Monday, 16 January 2012 19:19 (twelve years ago) link

Makes sense that she's getting a crazy push now when music programmers are figuring out how to fill the place currently held on radio and at the mall by "Someone Like You."

do you not like slouching? (Eazy), Monday, 16 January 2012 19:24 (twelve years ago) link

most interesting thing about being away from ILX is coming back to find out what people have been losing their shit over for the past six months. turns out it's jocelyn wildenstein doing chris isaak covers. cool.

Little GTFO (contenderizer), Monday, 16 January 2012 19:25 (twelve years ago) link

I still haven't heard the studio version--this is all I'd seen/heard:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOP2Yd_jpYQ

Is this one of the bad ones?

do you not like slouching? (Eazy), Monday, 16 January 2012 19:26 (twelve years ago) link

You can only compare the live versions with the studio version if you actually hear the studio version

I certainly wouldn't have, but hey. (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 16 January 2012 19:28 (twelve years ago) link

That Jools clip considerably less lolzy, just drowsy.

da croupier, Monday, 16 January 2012 19:30 (twelve years ago) link

contenderizer killin it

blood jessica shirt (some dude), Monday, 16 January 2012 19:30 (twelve years ago) link

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What We Did on Our POLLidays (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 16 January 2012 19:31 (twelve years ago) link

Ha, I meant otm

What We Did on Our POLLidays (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 16 January 2012 19:31 (twelve years ago) link

ormless

HOOS steen is it anyway? (Lamp), Monday, 16 January 2012 19:32 (twelve years ago) link

im glad to see contenderizer back

Jimmy Riddle Orchestra (Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker), Monday, 16 January 2012 19:32 (twelve years ago) link

jocelyn wildenstein doing chris isaak covers

A+

polyphonic, Monday, 16 January 2012 19:34 (twelve years ago) link

This is the first time I'd seen her and the second time I'd ever heard her song.

Emphasis on "people"

Tired of these edcuated basic bitches. (lilsoulbrother), Monday, 16 January 2012 19:37 (twelve years ago) link

turns out it's jocelyn wildenstein doing chris isaak covers.

Love it.

Tired of these edcuated basic bitches. (lilsoulbrother), Monday, 16 January 2012 19:37 (twelve years ago) link

I mean, Marianne Faithfull is no less drowsy.

do you not like slouching? (Eazy), Monday, 16 January 2012 19:38 (twelve years ago) link

another strong defense

da croupier, Monday, 16 January 2012 19:44 (twelve years ago) link

as long as there are nice people who haven't heard much of Lana Del Rey but have certainly heard worse, there remains hope for her yet

da croupier, Monday, 16 January 2012 19:46 (twelve years ago) link

lilsoulbro surely there are more 'people' who saw her perform for the first time on SNL than people who watched every live youtube before the show

blood jessica shirt (some dude), Monday, 16 January 2012 20:06 (twelve years ago) link

Well I think the people who complain are the ones who keep up with music news on the internet and are aware of those NYC performance/European TV performances or seen the videos posted during her Lizzy Grant days. For people who mostly get their exposure from TV and the like of course they wouldn't know.

Tired of these edcuated basic bitches. (lilsoulbrother), Monday, 16 January 2012 20:08 (twelve years ago) link

i wonder, honestly!

xp

Critique of Pure Moods (goole), Monday, 16 January 2012 20:08 (twelve years ago) link

i guess that depends on if you're talking about people commenting on the performance itt, or on the web in general. pretty unlikely on the latter front, more likely but still not all that certain on the former.

blood jessica shirt (some dude), Monday, 16 January 2012 20:09 (twelve years ago) link

Well I can't speak for other people, but since I took a day or two to see what LDR is all about I chalked it all up on bad media campaigning on the Lizzy Grant thing and lack of performance training given to her (Do they still do that btw? For god sakes, if you spend all that money on clothes and shit they can throw a few dollars with a singing and/or performance coach).

But since most people think the music industry is a conduit to their fantasy rather a business like everything else where the product (i.e. artist/group) is successful or not of course people think LDR is the worst thing ever and represents all what is wrong with America. Meaning a pretty, rich white girl who has no talent getting media exposure. Though things are not always that clear cut.

I think she has talent but she needs to figure out how to improve

Tired of these edcuated basic bitches. (lilsoulbrother), Monday, 16 January 2012 20:39 (twelve years ago) link

Mrs. Redd just informed me that Brian Williams either blogged or tweeted his negative opinion of the "brooklyn hipster" under discussion in this thread. This thing has gone worldwide!

What We Did on Our POLLidays (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 16 January 2012 21:26 (twelve years ago) link

Supposedly it was in a private e-mail to Nick Denton that Gawker, for some reason, decided to publish.

Girl I want to take you to a JBR (jaymc), Monday, 16 January 2012 21:29 (twelve years ago) link

I read that as "Brian Wilson" for a second and was puzzled.

St3ve Go1db3rg, Monday, 16 January 2012 21:36 (twelve years ago) link

like i am watching Blue Jeans again and rooting for her all over again because honestly she is just VERY BIZARRE, in a way that she seems not really in control of, as if there are at least three or four separate homunculi inside her attempting to incant the charm that will release them (none of them, as DJP notes, particularly communicating with the others)

― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, January 16, 2012 4:32 AM (9 hours ago) Bookmark

feel like this post didn't get the love it deserved

fighting growlbacks bottomless spirit pit (reddening), Monday, 16 January 2012 21:58 (twelve years ago) link

Too many posts, didn't otm

What We Did on Our POLLidays (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 16 January 2012 22:05 (twelve years ago) link

Xposts

What We Did on Our POLLidays (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 16 January 2012 22:05 (twelve years ago) link

How's the guitar practice, Dan?

I was just trying some C and E/Emin/Emin7 chords but had to stop because ow fingers

So, back to brushing up my German!

Bam! Orgasm explosion in your facehole. (DJP), Monday, 16 January 2012 23:45 (twelve years ago) link

My buddy just told me that LDR is essentially Ginny the drunk bride from Sixteen Candles and I was like YESSSS

polyphonic, Monday, 16 January 2012 23:54 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clGpZdf3bwY&feature=related

this is almost not recognizable as being the same person who was so terrible on SNL; the "she was terrified" argument seems to be looking better and better

Bam! Orgasm explosion in your facehole. (DJP), Tuesday, 17 January 2012 00:19 (twelve years ago) link

How's the guitar practice, Dan?

I was just trying some C and E/Emin/Emin7 chords but had to stop because ow fingers

So, back to brushing up my German!

― Bam! Orgasm explosion in your facehole. (DJP), Monday, January 16, 2012 5:45 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Fmaj can SUCK MY DICK

been practicing lately

the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 17 January 2012 00:50 (twelve years ago) link

haven't picked up the guitar in a while but it's good y'all are

markers, Tuesday, 17 January 2012 00:55 (twelve years ago) link

My buddy just told me that LDR is essentially Ginny the drunk bride from Sixteen Candles and I was like YESSSS

Does that make Cat Power Ally Sheedy in Breakfast Club?

do you not like slouching? (Eazy), Tuesday, 17 January 2012 02:27 (twelve years ago) link

she holds the microphone like it's a dick...she cups the balls

NZA, Tuesday, 17 January 2012 03:57 (twelve years ago) link

if she sucks a dick with the enthusiasm she sings it probably takes her hours to get a dude off jesus

NZA, Tuesday, 17 January 2012 04:13 (twelve years ago) link

tbf he's probably playing halo while she does it

iatee, Tuesday, 17 January 2012 04:14 (twelve years ago) link

Why the fuck does everyone in the press need to have a god damn opinion about this chick? I dont get how whiney finds at acceptable top treat the eight rappers he heard about from me first like totally marginal unknowns but when this chick says she likes the fucking waffle zombie rapper meme it becomes a huge music writer event. Why is this crap bleeding into hip hop press? Jesus

I Love Pedantry (D-40), Tuesday, 17 January 2012 06:18 (twelve years ago) link

I think there's some truth to Lex's argument (which I'm very loosely paraphrasing but I think he'd agree with the following) that probably the biggest upshot of the indie rock press broadening its focus beyond indie rock is that non-indie-rock music circles now feel more pressure to impress the indie rock press, its readers etc.

Tim F, Tuesday, 17 January 2012 07:01 (twelve years ago) link

It's easy to impress the indie rock press. Just show them a two-bedroom apartment.

polyphonic, Tuesday, 17 January 2012 07:03 (twelve years ago) link

another upshot of indie press focus broadening is that a much broader range of music is now liable to be associated with indie culture and wrestled with in that patented love/loathe kneejerk fashion. corollary to the emergence of ostensibly non-indie music that in one way or another is seemingly targeted at or reflective of indie sensibilities.

the weekned

Little GTFO (contenderizer), Tuesday, 17 January 2012 07:20 (twelve years ago) link

which i guess just restates lex via tim F

Little GTFO (contenderizer), Tuesday, 17 January 2012 07:24 (twelve years ago) link

did i make that argument? i don't remember it but i agree! maybe tim is just stating it in a more coherent way as ever.

i do remember rev alluding on some thread to indie rock as aspirational for african americans, which i'd like him to expand on.

deej your annoyance here is ridiculous considering that recently you were telling me that all critics have a duty to follow the ~conversation~ and ~hyped acts~

as bloghyped acts go i think LDR is pretty interesting tbh, so i'm just gonna enjoy one of the rare times the ~conversation~ doesn't annoy me.

irina-camelia begu (lex pretend), Tuesday, 17 January 2012 11:23 (twelve years ago) link

"deej your annoyance here is ridiculous considering that recently you were telling me that all critics have a duty to follow the ~conversation~ and ~hyped acts~"

i've never said this u doofus, i've said you should be aware of the general framing of the discussion & how it relates to lots of other things, like relative popularity & what kinds of things people respond to in the music & etc.

I Love Pedantry (D-40), Tuesday, 17 January 2012 11:25 (twelve years ago) link

you thinking Drake is a 'hyped act' instead of an 'insanely popular act' is pure confusion

I Love Pedantry (D-40), Tuesday, 17 January 2012 11:26 (twelve years ago) link

I don't think they'd really be the same points anyway - rap critics and fans caring about what Lana Del Rey thinks is like politicians thinking they have to have an opinion on celebrity news.

Tim F, Tuesday, 17 January 2012 11:28 (twelve years ago) link

only if they specifically exclude non-rap from their remit though? is that an effect of single-genre critics rubbing along closer to generalist critics?

irina-camelia begu (lex pretend), Tuesday, 17 January 2012 11:37 (twelve years ago) link

Well I mean caring about what Lana Del Rey thinks about rap.

But yes probably a lot of this is a result of the fact that all the circles of conversation are closer to one another now.

Tim F, Tuesday, 17 January 2012 11:40 (twelve years ago) link


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