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that thread idea is soooo gay

mh, Thursday, 12 January 2012 20:44 (twelve years ago) link

The troubling thing for me about how the ghettohikes is less how it's presented than how it will probably be taken by a lot of its audience. Yes, the name is kind of offputting, and yes, the transcriptions are kinda blackface or something, but most of what the kids say is very funny, and I think the whole thing would be kind of innocuous if it wasn't for the fact that there was a whole built in audience of people who are reading this as "LOL BLACKS R DUM"

extremely lewd and incredibly crass (Hurting 2), Thursday, 12 January 2012 20:44 (twelve years ago) link

http://twitter.com/#!/GhettoBusDriver

i think this is serious (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 12 January 2012 20:45 (twelve years ago) link

now find one more and write a gawker article about it

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 12 January 2012 20:46 (twelve years ago) link

http://twitter.com/#!/GhettoSommelier

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 12 January 2012 20:47 (twelve years ago) link

I'm 28. I have a full time job bringing urban students new computers.

buzza, Thursday, 12 January 2012 20:47 (twelve years ago) link

oh lol its a real twitter

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 12 January 2012 20:47 (twelve years ago) link

now find one more and write a gawker article about it

― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, January 12, 2012 3:46 PM

^ nick denton

am0n, Thursday, 12 January 2012 20:47 (twelve years ago) link

The troubling thing for me about how the ghettohikes is less how it's presented than how it will probably be taken by a lot of its audience. Yes, the name is kind of offputting, and yes, the transcriptions are kinda blackface or something, but most of what the kids say is very funny, and I think the whole thing would be kind of innocuous if it wasn't for the fact that there was a whole built in audience of people who are reading this as "LOL BLACKS R DUM"

― extremely lewd and incredibly crass (Hurting 2), Thursday, January 12, 2012 3:44 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yeah but i mean...kids saying funny or odd things is one of the most renewable resources on earth, if a particular batch gets 'tainted' i don't think it's some tragic waste of lols to not look at that one stupid twitter or write the whole thing off as unsavory

some dude, Thursday, 12 January 2012 20:48 (twelve years ago) link

i mean sure if you wanted to create a filter that allowed you to read it as "kidhikes" and found-and-replaced every "dis" or "dat" as "this" or "that" sure you'd have some decent guilt-free entertainment but is it really worth it?

some dude, Thursday, 12 January 2012 20:50 (twelve years ago) link

http://twitter.com/#!/TweetsLMAO/status/157549013317586944

am0n, Thursday, 12 January 2012 20:53 (twelve years ago) link

the ghettobusdriver one is obviously fake. the wildlife trip one, idk for sure, but it has the ring of truth.

extremely lewd and incredibly crass (Hurting 2), Thursday, 12 January 2012 20:53 (twelve years ago) link

"I drive a bus of troubled urban children (of all races) to school every day. I write the best stuff down and post it here."

maybe too pedantic but doesn't 'of all races' defy the proper definition of 'ghetto'? ok well fair enough, you're not a racist bus driver and most likely not a bus driver at all, just some guy with a funny twitter account who likes laughing at america's underclasses, good job

i think this is serious (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 12 January 2012 20:54 (twelve years ago) link

maybe too pedantic but doesn't 'of all races' defy the proper definition of 'ghetto'?

yes, actually they should be jewish

mh, Thursday, 12 January 2012 20:55 (twelve years ago) link

holy shit, the youtube wine reviews posted on ghettosommeleir's blogspot (titled 'hood wine')

i think this is serious (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 12 January 2012 20:59 (twelve years ago) link

xpost yeah but I mean tbh what's funny about it does have something to do with it being kids from the ghetto who have very little experience with wilderness, and my point isn't really that it should be scrubbed of any racial identifiers and made into generic "lol kids" so much as the fact that it sucks that a lot of people won't just read something like that with affection and appreciation as opposed to, well, racism.

extremely lewd and incredibly crass (Hurting 2), Thursday, 12 January 2012 21:01 (twelve years ago) link

@GhettoHikes seems a more plausible scenario than texts from Bennett but if they're based on real things the kids say they have to have been paraphrased into abstraction - it reads to me like a total BBC3 comedy scriptwriter's idea of what 'street yoof' say

like I didn't find texts from Bennett that funny (altho when someone - forks? - said something about it reading like a ventriloquist/dummy act it became instantly more endearing to read for me) but you at least got the impression that Mac Lethal actually took time to think about the character and get into the part y'know

tumblr white's secret kool-aid drinker (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 12 January 2012 21:03 (twelve years ago) link

it reads to me like a total BBC3 comedy scriptwriter's idea of what 'street yoof' say

IDK, it reads pretty real to me, whereas the bus one comes off totally canned

extremely lewd and incredibly crass (Hurting 2), Thursday, 12 January 2012 21:07 (twelve years ago) link

yeah ghetto hikes seems pretty plausible imo

lame adele rey (some dude), Thursday, 12 January 2012 21:07 (twelve years ago) link

although i bet the guy hears/types "dat" even when they say "that" sometimes, like that one young jeezy review on pitchfork

lame adele rey (some dude), Thursday, 12 January 2012 21:09 (twelve years ago) link

the reason it sounds real is because the kids actually say sharp, witty, irreverent things and not just dumb patsy lines

extremely lewd and incredibly crass (Hurting 2), Thursday, 12 January 2012 21:10 (twelve years ago) link

haha ok I didn't even look at the bus one until now

if anything that just seems like someone writing jokes on his own (eg the "start her car" one) then throwing them up on twitter

tumblr white's secret kool-aid drinker (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 12 January 2012 21:11 (twelve years ago) link

as the number of racist quotable twitters increases, the chance of a racially sensitive one appearing approaches 1

Mordy, Thursday, 12 January 2012 21:13 (twelve years ago) link

well 'not being racist' isn't really a thing you can (or should have to) applaud people for doing, not-racism is everywhere if you think about it

lame adele rey (some dude), Thursday, 12 January 2012 21:17 (twelve years ago) link

@shitmycatsays

frogbs, Thursday, 12 January 2012 21:18 (twelve years ago) link

I really wanted GhettoSommelier to be a parody

"I work as a sommelier in a michelin starred restaurant. I write down the best things customers (of all races) say

Ayo Mister, dis merlot STANK! Get it the fuck outta mah face, and bring me a 40 of dat '78 cab"

extremely lewd and incredibly crass (Hurting 2), Thursday, 12 January 2012 21:23 (twelve years ago) link

xp to some dude: http://gawker.com/5874912

Mordy, Thursday, 12 January 2012 21:25 (twelve years ago) link

although i bet the guy hears/types "dat" even when they say "that" sometimes, like that one young jeezy review on pitchfork

― lame adele rey (some dude), Thursday, January 12, 2012 4:09 PM (21 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

iirc in the pitchfork review, he just said "i got snow, man" and the "dat" was just added out of thin air

pug waffle (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 12 January 2012 21:31 (twelve years ago) link

oh right, i forgot how the line went. also i looked it up and it was a pitchfork guy in the voice :(

lame adele rey (some dude), Thursday, 12 January 2012 21:35 (twelve years ago) link

there is no way that @ghettohikes is real

⚓ (gr8080), Friday, 13 January 2012 02:45 (twelve years ago) link

Tardblog is way old, I'm sure I read it back when I was in Uni which was nearly 10 years ago. IIRC some of the stories were kind of cute if you take them out of the horrible context. I vaguely remember it had links to Tucker Max at the time although I didn't know what that was.

kinder, Friday, 13 January 2012 02:46 (twelve years ago) link

Oh yeah it even says '(c) Tucker Max' at the bottom, of some posts, ha

kinder, Friday, 13 January 2012 02:47 (twelve years ago) link

there is no way that @ghettohikes is real

― ⚓ (gr8080), Thursday, January 12, 2012 9:45 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

why not? seems a lot more real than texts from bennett imo

lame adele rey (some dude), Friday, 13 January 2012 02:52 (twelve years ago) link

there is no way that @ghettohikes is real

i was going to post this but feared a "posts very much in character" c&p

buzza, Friday, 13 January 2012 03:36 (twelve years ago) link

I'm guessing ghettohikes is "real."

nah (crüt), Friday, 13 January 2012 03:39 (twelve years ago) link

Check out the Reddit conversation on this. Commenters are throwing out the racism card like it’s going outta style. “Urban” is “urban”………relax. It’s an entertaining read and an expected Reddit time waster.

pug waffle (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 13 January 2012 03:49 (twelve years ago) link

“Urban” is “urban”………relax.

full title of the Das Racist album

lame adele rey (some dude), Friday, 13 January 2012 03:57 (twelve years ago) link

"Mr. Cody, lemme borrow them monoculars, I think I see a pack of bald eagles."

*dies laughing*

buzza, Friday, 13 January 2012 04:02 (twelve years ago) link

yeah it's not that funny, which is part of why i think it's probably real

lame adele rey (some dude), Friday, 13 January 2012 04:06 (twelve years ago) link

oh hey awesome not only is ghettohike on twitter but there is a tumblr

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lximlxAEjv1r9jpslo1_500.jpg

i think this is serious (elmo argonaut), Friday, 13 January 2012 04:11 (twelve years ago) link

he must be really embarrassed that he typed "the cookouts" instead of "da cookouts" in that one

lame adele rey (some dude), Friday, 13 January 2012 04:12 (twelve years ago) link

it's written exactly how a white dude would think black kids would talk.

there's no fucking way 12 year olds are cracking Jumanji jokes.

⚓ (gr8080), Friday, 13 January 2012 07:23 (twelve years ago) link

no one says 'where the cookouts and shit' either. speaking w/ a dialect doesnt mean that your sentences are missing words

Sh1pley Gohard (D-40), Friday, 13 January 2012 08:27 (twelve years ago) link

I hear people say "where the ____" without a verb all the time.

nah (crüt), Friday, 13 January 2012 09:01 (twelve years ago) link

"You fuckin' crazy Ervin, it'd be hard as fuck to pogo stick out here."

guilty lol.

Ned Trifle X, Friday, 13 January 2012 09:25 (twelve years ago) link

I hear people say "where the ____" without a verb all the time.

― nah (crüt), Friday, January 13, 2012 3:01 AM (57 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I've heard ppl say "where there are" and maybe slurring together 'there'&'are' like "there'r" but i dont think i've ever heard someone say "where the cookouts ...." and then just trail off. unless they had, like, a brain slip or were just generally dumb? idk i cant think of a time ive ever heard someone just drop off the verb entirely? it reads more like a baby's understanding of conveying ideas to me.

although i guess trying to find the logic in a racist's attempt to transcribe 'how black people talk' is the real problem

Sh1pley Gohard (D-40), Friday, 13 January 2012 10:04 (twelve years ago) link

i've heard people say 'where the keys?' or i've said that, sure, but that's a different sentence than 'isn't this the park where the cookouts?' ... where the cookouts what? whereas in the first its implied that you're dropping "[where] are [the keys] located?"

idk it just reads like either a mistranscription or a made-up transcription the way it is imo

Sh1pley Gohard (D-40), Friday, 13 January 2012 10:07 (twelve years ago) link

could be terrible punctuation. "Ain't this a park? Where the cookouts and shit?"

nb still horrible

Poppy Newgod and the Phantom Banned (Noodle Vague), Friday, 13 January 2012 11:09 (twelve years ago) link

i remember many years ago reading an essay about the transcription of working class voices in Charles Dickens and Robert Tressell that examined similar issues of a "neutral" representation that codes as mockery on the page. i'm guessing mr ghettohikes hasn't put any thought into this...for some reason

Poppy Newgod and the Phantom Banned (Noodle Vague), Friday, 13 January 2012 11:13 (twelve years ago) link

and this is the board where "where the tittays at" was a long-running joke

Derartu Cthulhu (NickB), Friday, 13 January 2012 11:16 (twelve years ago) link


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