Homosexuality and Hip-Hop : The Gay Rapper Thread

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kind of lol but mostly sad at carefully gender-neutral lyrics. always <3 lumidee tho.

thug eclair (The Reverend), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 17:41 (twelve years ago) link

unfortunately someone once referred to her as a "human muppet" and i'll never get that out of my head even though i guess it applies less during the GROWN N SEXY phase

fauxmarc, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 17:48 (twelve years ago) link

i don't even get that

thug eclair (The Reverend), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 17:51 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oo4Sqt2Bmag&feature=related

The Reverend, Monday, 23 January 2012 06:52 (twelve years ago) link

there's a free ep with some crazy good remixes btw http://hulkshare.com/i7pdydyrlldr

The Reverend, Monday, 23 January 2012 06:54 (twelve years ago) link

that video's amazing

fauxmarc, Monday, 23 January 2012 15:57 (twelve years ago) link

a j-wow remix too niceeee. still not over a buraka som sistema show from weeks back

fauxmarc, Monday, 23 January 2012 16:38 (twelve years ago) link

waooooow.....

m0stlyClean, Monday, 23 January 2012 18:05 (twelve years ago) link

that video's amazing

― fauxmarc, Monday, January 23, 2012 7:57 AM Bookmark

Really tho! I feel so slayed. Too bad I think we're the only two who read this thread anymore.

The Reverend, Monday, 23 January 2012 18:35 (twelve years ago) link

song + video both awesome

donna rouge, Monday, 23 January 2012 18:40 (twelve years ago) link

song + video both awesome

Θ ̨Θƪ (sic), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 01:04 (twelve years ago) link

That Zebra Katz track is sublime and a little chilling

no more mr. nice girls (Abbbottt), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 01:32 (twelve years ago) link

total maya deren vibe to the video. great track although she's quite a bit bitter than he is.

jed_, Tuesday, 24 January 2012 13:35 (twelve years ago) link

i feel like that video and song are both the type of thing i usually hate/roll my eyes at but they're both awesome

⚓ (gr8080), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 22:53 (twelve years ago) link

"ima read" is slaying me <3

tinie tempurah (lex pretend), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 16:05 (twelve years ago) link

I read the thread, Rev! I just usually have heard/seen/spoken about this stuff with u/other folk over on Tumblr by the time I do.

Ima Read is awesome.

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Thursday, 26 January 2012 19:34 (twelve years ago) link

i also read this thread

ima read is dope

i love pinfold cricket (gbx), Thursday, 26 January 2012 19:49 (twelve years ago) link

yeah i def lurk here

handy ban (lou), Thursday, 26 January 2012 19:53 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ga6pkoomSVg

⚓ (gr8080), Thursday, 26 January 2012 20:59 (twelve years ago) link

lol

lag∞n affiliated (The Reverend), Thursday, 26 January 2012 22:37 (twelve years ago) link

btw the song brainwasher linked to is awesome

lag∞n affiliated (The Reverend), Thursday, 26 January 2012 22:37 (twelve years ago) link

freedia did kimmel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ptXcud3cjY

fauxmarc, Thursday, 26 January 2012 23:45 (twelve years ago) link

man it's kinda tripping me out that straight-up n.o. bounce is getting this kind of shine in 2012

the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Thursday, 26 January 2012 23:50 (twelve years ago) link

http://soundcloud.com/le1f/gomorrah

lag∞n affiliated (The Reverend), Monday, 30 January 2012 00:10 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1d1OVYM2Ec0

Not explicitly gay but not the straightest thing either. Video is banned from Korean TV supposedly because the song title is a slang phrase. Diplo did the beat.

hurricane weather (forapper), Monday, 30 January 2012 01:57 (twelve years ago) link

i don't know if a lot got lost in translation or if that was intended to come off as completely bizarre as it did. i'm guessing somewhere in between.

lag∞n affiliated (The Reverend), Monday, 30 January 2012 03:11 (twelve years ago) link

It's a very literal translation, so it reads weirder than it is. But the song is also very weird because it is a brag rap song but the stuff they are bragging about is weird! Like TOP's "my eyelashes are natural not the result of disgusting heavy makeup" thing, which if you think about it means he is comparing himself either to makeup-wearing guys or to (hot?) girls. Or GD's stuff about stage presence and charisma followed up by BUT AT NIGHT, I'M SO LONELY.

Also, the fact that it's not super straight but overcompensates with tons of playboy bunny girls, lol.

In context it's slightly less weird, because all the stuff they are bragging about is actually stuff that really did make them super duper famous in Korea, as part of the mainstream idol group BigBang (whose touchstones are "being crazy", a confidence/insecurity divide, depression/bipolar disorder, and gay/transgender subtext). But it's still really weird to see that stuff in a hip hop song, and the styling is also, pretty bizarre.

hurricane weather (forapper), Monday, 30 January 2012 05:43 (twelve years ago) link

that big freedia performance is awesome

pretty dope on kimmel's ppl's part

J0rdan S., Monday, 30 January 2012 06:00 (twelve years ago) link

it's really easy to hear that "knock out" chorus as "i just broke a guy off"

J0rdan S., Monday, 30 January 2012 06:03 (twelve years ago) link

beat reminds me of "sportscenter" off 'dedication 2'

i love this

J0rdan S., Monday, 30 January 2012 06:04 (twelve years ago) link

ha, didn't realize this was a year old :-(

J0rdan S., Monday, 30 January 2012 06:17 (twelve years ago) link

i like how they have to add "gum" to the end of "this ain't double bubble"

J0rdan S., Monday, 30 January 2012 06:18 (twelve years ago) link

double bubble totally a rip of PERCOLATOR

dayo, Monday, 30 January 2012 11:48 (twelve years ago) link

well I guess it's a sample. first I've heard of a gay subtext to big bang! but I guess I wouldn't be expected to pick up on it.

It's a very literal translation, so it reads weirder than it is. But the song is also very weird because it is a brag rap song but the stuff they are bragging about is weird! Like TOP's "my eyelashes are natural not the result of disgusting heavy makeup" thing, which if you think about it means he is comparing himself either to makeup-wearing guys or to (hot?) girls. Or GD's stuff about stage presence and charisma followed up by BUT AT NIGHT, I'M SO LONELY.

fwiw it's not uncommon and probably pretty accepted for guys to wear makeup in e. asia - prob. the equiv of adam lambert and emo kids over hear putting on eyeliner

dayo, Monday, 30 January 2012 11:51 (twelve years ago) link

beat reminds me of "sportscenter" off 'dedication 2'

i love this

― J0rdan S., Monday, January 30, 2012 1:04 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

lol oh jordan

lana del rey: everythang's workin' (some dude), Monday, 30 January 2012 12:28 (twelve years ago) link

it's a good thing that this was pointed out before j0rd made an effusive blog post

dayo, Monday, 30 January 2012 12:34 (twelve years ago) link

Ima Read is fucking incredible, esp. the B. Ames/MikeQ Remix.

But the b-side, "Hey Ladies" is also really great.

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Monday, 30 January 2012 15:32 (twelve years ago) link

Yes, their famous gay subtext video is "Haru Haru" where the plot is about G-Dragon's girlfriend leaving him for TOP (with a K-drama twist at the end), but the video is shot so it looks like the argument is really between the two rappers. Also they've done a number of fanservice-y Kdrama parody videos where one of the members crossdresses and makes out with TOP (always cast in the lead romantic role). Well, of course 'fanservice' and 'humorous crossdressing' are pretty well known concepts in the Asian idol music world, but some of this stuff is above and beyond the call the duty, you might say. It's a source of artistic inspiration, at any rate - so much more satisfying to listen to a single about a relationship gone wrong when you get both perspectives (see also their latest, 'Tonight').

I didn't know that about eyeliner, though! That explains some things. Still think there are some gender issues in this group, though they are frequently eclipsed by the manic depression issues. But it would take too long to get into it.

hurricane weather (forapper), Monday, 30 January 2012 20:39 (twelve years ago) link

yeah - I had no idea about the subtext between top and gd, but notions of masculinity in east asia are assuredly not the same as those in the west, and from a western point of view, those notions might be interpreted as being 'feminine' or having 'feminine characteristics'

dayo, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 00:18 (twelve years ago) link

katz mention in nme

http://www.nme.com/reviews/various-artists/12669

fauxmarc, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:59 (twelve years ago) link

so i just had "read" explained to me and now appreciate that song 1000x more

i love pinfold cricket (gbx), Sunday, 12 February 2012 00:36 (twelve years ago) link

^^essential viewing

⚓ (gr8080), Sunday, 12 February 2012 10:44 (twelve years ago) link

http://citypaper.com/music/now-i-8217-m-here-1.1271727

Anyone have thoughts? I'm checking out the new mixtape now. Soderberg likes him, at least.

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 20:07 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, I posted about him earlier. <3 that dude.

lag∞n affiliated (The Reverend), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 20:22 (twelve years ago) link

He's p entertaining on twitter, too.

lag∞n affiliated (The Reverend), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 20:22 (twelve years ago) link

yeah i need to check out the new music. it speaks to my lack of gaydar though that the first time i had a conversation w/ dude like 5 years ago (when he asked me to write a press bio) i had no idea about his orientation and really didn't at all until the rumors started circulating.

CANDY aka JUNK (some dude), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 20:24 (twelve years ago) link

Sorry for missing that, Rev!

I need to do a better job at listening to EVERYTHING...

Also, I was spinning the So So Rev mix and remembered that OMG Michelle are amazing. Did they ever put out anything besides those two Kingdom-produced tracks?

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 20:46 (twelve years ago) link


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