funky house sceptics, let me draw your attention to this

wow thanks, loving that

latest one. issue 4 i think.

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lil silva - seasons/funky flex is banging http://www.chemical-records.co.uk/sc/servlet/Info?Track=LILSILVA

Seasons is probably the stand-out, both very grimey with great bass.

decent mix here by jackmaster of glasgow's numbers: http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=73011

Tracklisting:

Lil Silva - Funky Flex
Apple - Siegalizer
Roska - Our Father
Donaeo - African Warrior
Roska - Elevated Levels
Palceface & Kyla - Do You Mind (Crazy Cousins Remix)
Roska - Tack Tiles
Lil Silva - Seasons
D Malice - Gabrielle Refix
Kode 9 & LD - Bad
Martyn - Vancouver
Skream - If You Know
Zomby - Rumours & Revolutions
Perempay & Dee - Buss It

Liking this nice ‘funky’ mix I'm listening to, which I got on Little Detroit:

http://www.factmagazine.co.uk/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1723&Itemid=28

It’s more techy than I would have thought (plus there is deep house on it as well), but they are primarily a techno forum so that’s no surprise. How do you guys on here think it sits with the rest of the sound?

01 Ill Blu - Frontline (Roska Special)

02 Darkus Beat Company - Promise (Roska Remix)

03 Perempay & Dee - Hypnotic

04 Roska - Feeline (Roska 10K Dub Plate)

05 Karizma - I C U

06 Hard House Banton - Reign

07 Geeneus - As I (feat. Katy B)

08 Audiowhores - Make a Choice

09 Donaeo - Party Hard (Suges - We Belong to the Night)

10 Kenny Dope - Sound Bwoy

11 Roska - Gone to a Better Place

12 Hard House Banton - Sirens

13 Gary Bardouille - Starting Over

14 Karizma - It's What I Am (Simbad Remix)

15 Wookie - Gallium

16 Fingaprint - Take Over

17 Magic Touch - Hips

18 Geeneus - Yellowtail

19 Roska - Feeline (Original Mix)

20 Kentphonik - Sunday Showers

21 Crazy Cousinz - Inflation

22 Roska - Holograph

23 Roska - Climate Change (Original Mix)

24 D Malice - Gabrieylle Refix (Roska Special)

25 Roska - In Your Handbag

26 Nick Holder - Erotic Illusions (Triple T O V Mix)

27 DJ Gregory - Vasefa (Argy Remix)

28 Geeneus - Into the Future

29 Afefe Iku - Mirror Dance

30 Roska - Over the Horizons

That doesn't seem that far away from a usual funky set once you get over the relative lack of vocal tunes. Also I'm assuming this is an ID for the ace funky version of "Erotic Illusions" I've been hearing of late.

‘Roska - Gone to a Better Place’ sounds remarkably close to (what I consider) tech house. I like it.

i think Hard House Banton might be my favourite producer name ever.

I was just having a chuckle at that one too.

this seems quite a slow moving scene.

I like the FACT Roska mix (especially as it's 256kbps). Smoothly flowing and agreeably varied.

ah, that looks good, downloading now.

this CC inflation track is so crappy! its like a playschool xylophone line played with basic grime changes (but obv cos its a nice sound its 'classy').

re: slow moving...

I saw Marcus Nasty at aka for the rinse night recently and he was playing pretty much all stuff from last spring... On the other hand that's probably because it wasn't a proper funky night. Dunno, doesn't seem to have been much more of the good stuff since last summer though - just novelty dance tunes.

"this CC inflation track is so crappy! "

titchy off the money as usual.

no, no. its just crap. its almost like funky gone easy listening.

"its almost like (x) gone easy listening" is a black hole into which all interesting thought goes to die.

People have said the same of all manner of awesome tunes over the years. But anyway it's not even true, the groove is really muscular and the xylophone hook is totally ravey.

'Inflation' is almost like a tighter relative of 2-Step/UKG's 'Endorphins'. The beat is hugely propulsive, largely down to the snare pattern (first hit is on the first beat of the bar), and the track has a huge amounts of vibez and tension.

Spot on, "propulsive" is precisely the word. There's a sense in which it really perfects (in the sense of intensifying it to a point it's difficult to imagine bettering) the vibey energy of the funky's snare heavy sound without actually having to go down the grime route (the easiest way to know that someone is full of shit w/r/t funky is that they only like post-"Seasons" tunes that emphatically adopt grime/dubsteppy rhythmic ideas - now obv. "Seasons" is classic, but I like the way "Inflation" feels incredibly energetic but not at all aggressive).

i caught up with Arms remixes showreel i downloaded a while back and they're all terrific - best of this subgenre i've heard so far

That's the broken beat end of the genre I guess. Agree that his stuff has a subtlety and er "depth" that's missing from a lot of the others. He seems like the MJ Cole of this stuff to me...

princess's remix of 'party hard' is A+

the track has a huge amounts of vibe

funnily enough, i heard what sounded like a budget roy ayers remix of inflation a little while ago on rinse i think. had some strange attempts at soloing which made me lol a bit.

titchy might be thinking (...) of kentphonik's sultry 'sunday showers', or (as noted by prancehall) akefe iku's 'mirror dance', both of which could be seen as jazzier 'inflation' xylobites. wrongly.

not to k-punkture the polemic and all but shamefully i must admit that the nomenclature does also hold a certain allure - what mightve merely been a rote afro bubbler now looms with vague zeitgeist doom, absurdly escalating and fluttering up like an exploded suitcase of worthless trillion-dollar zimbabwean bills. feels crafty! the credit crunch ep from which it is supposedly taken will mercifully over-egg that notion though.

barely inflected “quality” productions so full of “soul” that there was no room left for a tune, so “deep” that all topographical dynamism gets smothered, all made by “cats” so jive that a positive reaction from plebian suburban, adolescent, gay, drug-using and/or female audiences would be rejected with distaste even if it was possible.

gotta hand it 2 u tho titch, you upped ur word game for this bad boy!

come to think of it though - i do like that recessionista waffle in terms of localising the proto-everything idealisation of funky. when else was house, bleep (i fought roska but couldnt ever rule him out), rnb (magic touch pro's 'signed and sealed', that 'sexy sixty seconds' one - shouldnt someone be mentioning these?), ragga and (oh yes) acid jazz all at play but the early 90s - grimness, pirate radio, south london, a general rebirth of uk ownbrand music of all stripes, all of that. context music! just er, substitute the bongo for the breakbeat. soul 2 soul woman's daughter winning x-factor IT IS A PORTENT DON'T U SEE

with me as the jeezy of uh-wait-a-sec-how-is-this-actually-relevant-to-what-i'm-hearing-NO-ONE-SAID-THIS-ABOUT-'THE-GREAT-DEPRESSION'-BY-DMX flimsy social crit, natch

http://www.bm-soho.com/store/AutoKey/101604/mr/mathziap

btw who's heard any djs/sets playing anything off this besides footloose? i declare it canon.

what mightve merely been a rote afro bubbler now looms with vague zeitgeist doom

ha this is actually totally right! there's definitely a kind of menace in the way it builds and builds. roska mixes it into 'sunday showers' on his fact mix, it's definitely a reply of sorts to it, the stabby strings as well as the xylophone riff. and one of those mr mathz tracks also has xylophone action, truly it is the sound of 09.

also feeling jalla's 'turbulence', which uses 'who's afraid of detroit?' as a jump-off point for a lovely zig-zagging riff.

a heads-up - www.invasionrecords.co.uk now has an mp3 store - pick up the crop for me right now is 'hips'...

i bet they thought they were being really clever by calling it inflation and having a xylophone riff that goes up and down, up and down, etc etc. 'see what weve done there?!??!?!'

ive not listened to marcus nasty in weeks. might see him on sunday tho.

Where's he playing on Sunday?

fwd at plastic ppl, if youre in london.

has anyone been to the yellow night which is on saturday? keep meaning to go, but can't make it this time. will be seeing d-malice and kode9 @ night slugs tomorrow though!

Sshh Titchy.

r|t|c I ritualistically support your posts as ever but is there a glossary somewhere...?

not been yellow, no. i wanna see kode 9 deejay funky though. as long as he doesnt have spaceape mc on top ;)

Now that I'm in London i really want to go to one of those club E3/Stratford/Dagenham style funky raves rather than centrally located dubsteppy things. Anyone know a good source of info about them? Might go to FWD on sunday though...

facebook is the place to find and keep up with funky events from what i can find, myspace is usually more difficult

this is good also

http://www.nuthingsorted.com/

there is a big one coming up at Babalou in Brixton later this month...

Dub Organiser and Cartel Family Presents: The Producers House Feb 27 Babalou, Brixton

Fingaprint
Roska
Cooly G
Perempay
Hardhouse Banton b2b Dubplate Wonder
Lewis Williams

£5 before 12 / £10 after

No hats hoods or sports wear.

ahhhh that looks awesome, i am def going to try to reach that...

circle events are on hiatus for 6 months but this is their adults only side project - they're doing a night tomorrow, had contemplated trying to do both it and night slugs but i have a feeling that won't happen.

that does look sick, i bet the tunes will be storming. although the repeated emphasis on maturity is a little much!

interesting how they use 'DUBBAGE' to describe some of the stuff they play, never heard that before... Tippa has his myspace as House & Dubbage. anyone know what that's about?

Do not approve of 'dubbage' as a term, if only because if it takes off it's only a matter of time before someone moves to coin the pop version of the term and then, ugh, do not want.

It sounds like an unpleasant vegetable.

House & Garub

Do not approve of 'dubbage' as a term, if only because if it takes off it's only a matter of time before someone moves to coin the pop version of the term and then, ugh, do not want.

i don't follow?! am i being slow

does anyone know what it means though? is it describing the kind of weirder side of new US garage? im quite intrigued

Y're not slow and y're better off not knowing.

Fuzzy Logick has some great new tracks, typically in a billion different styles. "Roots" is a ridiculously intense asymmetrical piano stomper, a similar blunt-axe syncopated groove to "Twiss". Meanwhile another tune which I think is called "In The Morning" is an insane vocal anthem, massive bouncy beat, enormous synthesiser spurts and a fabulous diva vocal. It's very freestyle or early Jam & Spoon.

There's also a lot of tracks that sound a lot like early LFO - those same slippery, slithery weedy electro melodies. Roska's "In Your Handbag" obv, but lots of others whose names i don't know. Ironically Mr Roach's actual "LFO" sampling tune isn't terribly good, though Hardcore Continuum literalists who tend toward a "tell don't show" critical mindset have already bigged it up a bit excessively.

Really enjoying Marcus's 7th January set too. Would love an ID on the compulsive latin-ish track with the cut-up vocals that comes after Mak 10's boring stomper at about the 66 minute mark. It's only marginally less aggressive than the Mak 10 track, but somehow falls just on the right side of sexy.

kylas do you mind is getting a lot of attention now its being re-released.... i dont think its happening really but if they get her some more decent songs, she might actually become a bit of a pop star.

I'm all about the 21st Jan podcast myself. Really want some more info on the run of tracks around the 53 min mark onwards - some amazing stuff.

do you guys have links for those podcasts? think im about ready to hear another Marcus Nasty show!

In The Morning is getting a lot of love, reckon it could do pretty well if its well handled. Freestyle is very true. The more time goes by the more I feel that Fuzzy Logik has a vibe most of the new uk producers don't and that I wish they did... that ability to walk the line between a melodic and evocative house sound and complete weirdness and ruffness, while being distinctly UK and fresh. things seem quite polarised in the trickle of new stuff im hearing coming from most... exceptions are there but fewer than would be good