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I know that you don't know why, and won't know why

probably should have just stopped there before you said something stupid

frogbs, Friday, 6 January 2012 17:47 (twelve years ago) link

xp omg haha

I certainly wouldn't have, but hey. (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 6 January 2012 17:50 (twelve years ago) link

iconic

I certainly wouldn't have, but hey. (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 6 January 2012 17:51 (twelve years ago) link

Will I offend anyone using that picture as my twitter avatar?

I certainly wouldn't have, but hey. (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 6 January 2012 17:51 (twelve years ago) link

full confession: I briefly had Dock Ellis's baseball card as a myspace band avatar for awhile way back when

The Silent Extreme (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 6 January 2012 17:51 (twelve years ago) link

well that certainly is a frog of priviledge

frogbs, Friday, 6 January 2012 17:52 (twelve years ago) link

damn, almost had whiney calling out half the goon crew as being racist

bob loblaw people (dayo), Friday, 6 January 2012 17:53 (twelve years ago) link

it is necessary to point this out all the time. It will no longer be necessary when white ppl don't have all the privilege. You're welcome.

we're talking about twitter avatars (of people who are richer, more famous, and more talented than us). kinda strikes me as the kind of thing that ONLY white people would have a problem with.

frogbs, Friday, 6 January 2012 17:54 (twelve years ago) link

no one is richer, more famous, or more talented than me frog b, I don't know what world you live in

unlistenable in philly (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Friday, 6 January 2012 18:00 (twelve years ago) link

dock ellis is totally more talented than you aero, sorry

The Silent Extreme (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 6 January 2012 18:04 (twelve years ago) link

I pitch no-hitters on acid all day it's just nobody reports it

unlistenable in philly (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Friday, 6 January 2012 18:04 (twelve years ago) link

i see we have a nice shitstorm brewing and i'll let you get on with it, but with the case of 'pepper lebeija' twit handle i guess for me it comes down to reducing trans people of color to objects of amusement? or more generally how paris is burning is largely seen as little more than a fun quotable 'gay' movie, rather than an enthographic documentary of an extremely marginal community?

i think this is serious (elmo argonaut), Friday, 6 January 2012 18:06 (twelve years ago) link

so if my avatar is Kobe Bryant, does that say to you, "people like Kobe are just objects of amusement"?

frogbs, Friday, 6 January 2012 18:18 (twelve years ago) link

yours personally? yes

unlistenable in philly (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Friday, 6 January 2012 18:19 (twelve years ago) link

I'm not removing my Eddie Hazel avatars for anyone.

Jimmy Riddle Orchestra (Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker), Friday, 6 January 2012 18:23 (twelve years ago) link

hope you don't have a problem with my new DN

frogbs after dark (frogbs), Friday, 6 January 2012 19:40 (twelve years ago) link

it's kinda blah

bob loblaw people (dayo), Friday, 6 January 2012 19:45 (twelve years ago) link

That goat looks sort of happy so I object to any use of it as an avatar.

joygoat, Friday, 6 January 2012 21:41 (twelve years ago) link

I'm not removing my Eddie Hazel avatars for anyone.

― Jimmy Riddle Orchestra (Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker), Friday, January 6, 2012 10:23 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

lool

ah, how quaint (Matt P), Friday, 6 January 2012 21:46 (twelve years ago) link

yo, what are the implications of having a varg vikernes avatar? that's cool rite?

Mordy, Friday, 6 January 2012 22:15 (twelve years ago) link

ok obv nobody else is gonna say it

no

no, that's not cool mordy

i'm sorry

carpy deems (darraghmac), Saturday, 7 January 2012 01:57 (twelve years ago) link

lol missed you frogg

horseshoe, Saturday, 7 January 2012 01:59 (twelve years ago) link

also it's not clear to me you tried at all to understand the specificity of elmo's observation; it's not really transportable to kobe bryant.

horseshoe, Saturday, 7 January 2012 02:02 (twelve years ago) link

'well all black ppl are p much the same, right?'

404 (Lamp), Saturday, 7 January 2012 02:03 (twelve years ago) link

not ALL white ppl are privileged and not ALL black ppl are underprivileged, guys

⚓ (gr8080), Saturday, 7 January 2012 02:21 (twelve years ago) link

so if my avatar is Kobe Bryant, does that say to you, "people like Kobe are just objects of amusement"?

― frogbs, Friday, January 6, 2012 1:18 PM (7 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

god this isn't that hard, there is a (usually p obvious) difference between liking/appreciating/being a fan of someone and using their image for ironic lols in a way that is racialized or playing off stereotypes

Bruce K. Tedesco (zachlyon), Saturday, 7 January 2012 02:59 (twelve years ago) link

gr8: i don't really know what you're about but i'll assume you're not joking. there are all sorts of types of privilege -- all people who pass for white have white privilege over those who don't. this doesn't mean they have every privilege.

Bruce K. Tedesco (zachlyon), Saturday, 7 January 2012 03:03 (twelve years ago) link

just lol'd so hard darr

Mordy, Saturday, 7 January 2012 03:09 (twelve years ago) link

hard lol'ing. it hurts.

Mordy, Saturday, 7 January 2012 03:09 (twelve years ago) link

help.

Mordy, Saturday, 7 January 2012 03:09 (twelve years ago) link

then i'm going to assume i had a wrong read on gr8 and wrongfully responded to a comment made by a million people every day

i'm very sorry mordy

Bruce K. Tedesco (zachlyon), Saturday, 7 January 2012 03:32 (twelve years ago) link

u aren't darr! continue to fight the good fight

Mordy, Saturday, 7 January 2012 03:35 (twelve years ago) link

oh lol didn't see that

Bruce K. Tedesco (zachlyon), Saturday, 7 January 2012 03:40 (twelve years ago) link

god this isn't that hard, there is a (usually p obvious) difference between liking/appreciating/being a fan of someone and using their image for ironic lols in a way that is racialized or playing off stereotypes

i don't see an image there, the guy's name is just "Pepper LaBeija". not sure where the ironic lols are coming from. it is because he is not, in fact, Pepper LaBeija?

frogbs, Saturday, 7 January 2012 05:12 (twelve years ago) link

Because the name implies it's a black man who dresses as a woman and it's actually a white man who dresses as a man?

I mean, unless you're using some new definition, that is textbook irony

mh, Saturday, 7 January 2012 05:18 (twelve years ago) link

well, my twitter handle implies that I'm an owl (actually, I'm human)

IMO people who name themselves after a celebrity don't really imply anything but them being a fan of that celebrity

also it's not clear to me you tried at all to understand the specificity of elmo's observation; it's not really transportable to kobe bryant.

is there any way I can explain this that won't have people jumping down my throat?

frogbs, Saturday, 7 January 2012 05:20 (twelve years ago) link

xpost: no, but please keep trying :-)

⚓ (gr8080), Saturday, 7 January 2012 07:30 (twelve years ago) link

think there's a frog in yr throat

bob loblaw people (dayo), Saturday, 7 January 2012 14:10 (twelve years ago) link

I see a CRUCIFIED FROG and I'm like "why a cup? why an egg?"

I was otherwise very normal before I became (onimo), Saturday, 7 January 2012 15:59 (twelve years ago) link

yo, what are the implications of having a varg vikernes avatar? that's cool rite?

― Mordy, Friday, January 6, 2012 10:15 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

ok obv nobody else is gonna say it

no

no, that's not cool mordy

i'm sorry

― carpy deems (darraghmac), Saturday, January 7, 2012 1:57 AM (14 hours ago)

not even the shopped pic of varg with the cat?

Jimmy Riddle Orchestra (Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker), Saturday, 7 January 2012 16:13 (twelve years ago) link

ironic fetishization of an unrepentant racist is one of hipsterdom and ILX's lowest moments

pug waffle (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 7 January 2012 16:20 (twelve years ago) link

^^^^^^^^

unlistenable in philly (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Saturday, 7 January 2012 17:53 (twelve years ago) link

and liverpool's

carpy deems (darraghmac), Saturday, 7 January 2012 17:55 (twelve years ago) link

ironic fetishization of an unrepentant racist is one of hipsterdom and ILX's lowest moments

― pug waffle (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, January 7, 2012 4:20 PM (2 hours ago)

How do you know the cat is racist?

Jimmy Riddle Orchestra (Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker), Saturday, 7 January 2012 18:22 (twelve years ago) link

the fact that ilx'ers keep getting trolled by varg references blows my mind

Mordy, Saturday, 7 January 2012 23:56 (twelve years ago) link

sandy varginas

carpy deems (darraghmac), Sunday, 8 January 2012 00:39 (twelve years ago) link

Taken last week in a seaside town in England:

http://i41.tinypic.com/2q2k5qa.jpg

☆★☆彡彡 (ENBB), Sunday, 8 January 2012 00:42 (twelve years ago) link

'LOVELY GOLLIES'

☆★☆彡彡 (ENBB), Sunday, 8 January 2012 00:43 (twelve years ago) link


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