Mats Gustafsson has made a lot of records (S/D)

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good lord that is a lot of records! thread title does not lie.
i really dig that south bank thing, so i need to explore more.

tylerw, Friday, 6 January 2012 16:25 (six years ago) Permalink

that's exactly why i started this thread! if you like that, you will like a lot of his other stuff

La Lechera, Friday, 6 January 2012 16:29 (six years ago) Permalink

i think the logical place to start is THE THING but i may be biased

La Lechera, Friday, 6 January 2012 16:29 (six years ago) Permalink

I have been enjoying I Love It When You Snore, which is just him and Paal Nilssen-Love playing rather quietly and percussively (as opposed to the assault honking)

La Lechera, Friday, 6 January 2012 16:31 (six years ago) Permalink

"tonal belligerence" made me lol. I love this guy's work and his energy and invention as a soloist. I've seen him a couple of times with the Brötzmann Tentet+, and have a few of these discs.

Steamtable Willie (WmC), Friday, 6 January 2012 16:35 (six years ago) Permalink

Can also recommend:

2003, Live at Blå, Smalltown Superjazzz STSJ099CD. The Thing.
2004, Garage, Smalltown Superjazzz STS078CD. The Thing.

And anything with the Chicago Tentet if you like large ensembles.

La Lechera, Friday, 6 January 2012 20:16 (six years ago) Permalink

saw him in '95 in Chicago, pretty mindblowing to young me

unlistenable in philly (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Friday, 6 January 2012 20:21 (six years ago) Permalink

Seen him loads of times here in Vienna, am seeing him tomorrow night in fact

The Thing are indeed great, also dig his work with Vandermark and Brötzmann as Sonore

for those who are scared of jazz, the two Fire! LPs are essential, the latter with Jim O'Rourke.

ban this sick stunt (anagram), Friday, 6 January 2012 21:00 (six years ago) Permalink

This dude used to play Chicago all the time, often with O'Rourke, and between them they were responsible for some of the most embarrassing, indulgent improv shows I've ever seen (including one where Mats was doing sub-Zorn improv with a mouthpiece and O'Rourke, playing accordion, walked out of the club and never came back). But I've seen Mats be awesome, too.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 6 January 2012 21:18 (six years ago) Permalink

Like in the Tentet, who were (are?) mind-blowing.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 6 January 2012 21:20 (six years ago) Permalink

did he walk out because it was sucking?

sarahel, Friday, 6 January 2012 21:21 (six years ago) Permalink

i have def been to shows where it feels like they're practicing on stage in front of the audience, that is not desirable
always chalked it up to lack of chemistry?

La Lechera, Friday, 6 January 2012 21:24 (six years ago) Permalink

chemistry is only part of it -- there are a lot of factors, and there are a lot of techniques that improvising musicians employ to mitigate those factors.

sarahel, Friday, 6 January 2012 21:28 (six years ago) Permalink

like having a terrible attitude or being a stage-leaving baby hehe

La Lechera, Friday, 6 January 2012 21:31 (six years ago) Permalink

oh no - i mean, i have been at improv shows that have sucked, and one of the musicians leaving mid-set was the best decision possible.

sarahel, Friday, 6 January 2012 21:32 (six years ago) Permalink

xpost No, O'Rourke was just in whimsy mode. Doodle doo, I'll play my accordion and walk around the place. Oh, look, he walked right out! Ha, very funny. Oh, he's not coming back? That's OK, he was droning along on the accordion. Har.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 6 January 2012 22:06 (six years ago) Permalink

From when he played with The Ex here in Glasgow back in January 2010...

http://krakow.zenfolio.com/img/s2/v1/p201529311-3.jpg

I also saw him last year with The Thing and then with Fire!, but have still not processed those photos yet, sadly.

only NWOFHM! is real (krakow), Friday, 6 January 2012 22:45 (six years ago) Permalink

Have only heard Mouth Eating Trees, Nothing To Read, Parrot Fish Eye, and From Things To Sounds. MET is one of the most amazing records of anything I've ever heard ever. Can't recommend it enough. NTR is almost as good (two of the three MET participants) -- Paul Lovens is a favorite of mine, and he and Mats work incomprehensibly brilliantly together. PFE was a bit of a disappointment; I'm not a fan of what is sometimes derisively referred to as "insect music," although Gene Coleman tries to add a little depth. FTTS is great, particularly the drummer, Raymond Strid.

Let A Man Come In And Do The Cop Porn (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 7 January 2012 00:58 (six years ago) Permalink

"1999, Windows: the music of Steve Lacy, Blue Chopsticks BC4. Solo"
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
this one is gorgeous

bear, bear, bear, Saturday, 7 January 2012 01:32 (six years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

Currently listening to Catapult (solo baritone sax) and it is super weird.

Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Thursday, 23 February 2012 21:01 (six years ago) Permalink

2005, Catapult, doubtmusic dms-103. Baritone sax solo.

Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Thursday, 23 February 2012 21:02 (six years ago) Permalink

yeah I wasn't too keen on the solo LP he did for Dancing Wayang a year or so ago.

ban this sick stunt (anagram), Friday, 24 February 2012 09:22 (six years ago) Permalink

At the risk of seeming like a shameless self-publicist, I wrote a primer of sorts to the world of Mats and The Thing last year that may be of interest. I concentrated on stuff from the last decade or so that is readily available. I'm not really familiar with his Chicago-era stuff, although For Don Cherry with Hamid Drake is a great live recording, going from really quiet and intense moments to free-bop. I'll check out the stuff mentioned above though.

http://thequietus.com/articles/07094-the-strange-frightening-world-of-the-thing

I've never been disappointed with Gustafsson live, whether it's with The Thing, The Ex or other outfits. A fantastic player, hugely inventive, gutsy and subtle when he wants to be!

Really keen to hear that new album on Terry Ex's Terp label: MG, Paal Nilsson Love and krar player Mesele Asmamaw kicking out the jams in an Ethopian hotel room.
http://www.theliminal.co.uk/2012/02/mats-gustafsson-paal-nilssen-love-mesele-asmamaw-baro-101/

Poor.Old.Tired.Horse. (Stew), Friday, 24 February 2012 15:31 (six years ago) Permalink

Oooh, Ethiopian jams sound great. Thanks!

Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Friday, 24 February 2012 15:41 (six years ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

The Cherry Thing tracklisting:

01 Cashback (Neneh Cherry)
02 Dream Baby Dream (Suicide)
03 Too Tough to Die (Martina Topley-Bird)
04 Sudden Movement (Mats Gustafsson)
05 Accordion (MF Doom)
06 Golden Heart (Don Cherry)
07 Dirt (The Stooges)
08 What Reason (Ornette Coleman)

Valéry Giscard d'Staind (NickB), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 15:30 (six years ago) Permalink

this collab is not new, they first played together a year ago. looking forward to seeing them live in any event, and to hearing the album of course.

also, I don't know who is in this picture with her, but it sure isn't The Thing.

my father will guide me up the stairs to bed (anagram), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 15:41 (six years ago) Permalink

that sounds super cool!

Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 15:48 (six years ago) Permalink

Awesome, can't wait to hear it, also I guess there a new Thing record called "Mono"? I haven't come across it yet

I saw them in Chicago in 2006 (I think?) completely fantastic, one of my favorite bands

chr1sb3singer, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 16:43 (six years ago) Permalink

yeah Mono is the most recent studio album, came out last year

my father will guide me up the stairs to bed (anagram), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 16:50 (six years ago) Permalink

That's not even Neneh in that picture is it? The bloke on the right is Jack Bruce though.
Live clip of them doing MF Doom's Accordian sounds pretty great.
http://youtu.be/pbggxxf_7wQ

Further to my post of a few weeks back, the album with Mesele Asmamaw is terrific. Asmamaw does some wild stuff with his krak, particularly when he runs it through a wah.

Poor.Old.Tired.Horse. (Stew), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 23:19 (six years ago) Permalink

Krar, not krak. Unintentional double entendre there.

Poor.Old.Tired.Horse. (Stew), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 23:20 (six years ago) Permalink

six years pass...

This is not one of Mats Gustafson's records but it is the one video I could find from his Big Ears 2018 duo with Kieran Hebden/Four Tet. I enjoyed the hell out of it and when he wasn't playing MG made some of the most diabolical facial expressions I've seen a human make.

I just remembered to look it up and this video only has 114 views. Criminal!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4UClB3yMpM

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 15:29 (five months ago) Permalink

I've almost certainly seen this guy play more times in the last 10 years than any other musician* - and I still don't own anything with him on it, in spite of the fact that he's great. (*apart from John Edwards, the bassist, I feel like I see him playing every time I go to a gig).

We can be herpes (Tom D.), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 17:25 (five months ago) Permalink

The newish Fire! record (like just about all the other Fire! records) is pretty awesome...an almost stoner free-jazz? Basically a thundering power trio with Gustafsson filling the guitar role on sax. Great stuff.

chr1sb3singer, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 19:54 (five months ago) Permalink

agree
that lineup is always enjoyable. the one i know best is with jim o'rourke
the song titles are something else https://www.discogs.com/Fire-With-Jim-O-Rourke-Unreleased/master/347570

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 20:38 (five months ago) Permalink

that latest Fire! lp is pretty fab in it's own grindingly grim manner, a soundtrack to a shit summer with serious vit d deficiency issues!

calzino, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 21:01 (five months ago) Permalink

this appears to be the most updated discography fwiw http://www.restructures.net/Gustafsson/Mats_disco_home.htm

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 21:07 (five months ago) Permalink

and it's still not fully updated-- last updated July 2013

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 21:09 (five months ago) Permalink

two months pass...

love his philosophy <3 good interview

To build your own language is an amazing journey to take. To build it up, to learn, to make the research. It never ends. ALL tools are good – as long as you make the knowledge yours. To copy is just a tool among others. We are free to use ANY elements from ANY source available and transform it. In some cases, you need to go really deep into certain music and languages. To really understand. All knowledge is good.
That is beautiful.

https://15questions.net/interview/fifteen-questions-interview-mats-gustafsson/page-1/

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 24 August 2018 17:34 (two months ago) Permalink

just been blasting out the 2016 Fire! album She Sleeps... it's pretty damn good as well! I find the Fire! Orchestra big band projects quite terrible and unlistenable tbh, but as a trio they burn very brightly.

calzino, Friday, 24 August 2018 21:58 (two months ago) Permalink

Oh, I disagree. The first Fire! Orchestra album was great - reminded me of Burnt Sugar a lot.

grawlix (unperson), Friday, 24 August 2018 22:07 (two months ago) Permalink

maybe I need another listen, but last time I hated it.

calzino, Friday, 24 August 2018 22:08 (two months ago) Permalink


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