Speaking of culture wars, Sullivan's dug up a pleasant missive from Santorum's past:
http://www.catholic.org/featured/headline.php?ID=30
It is startling that those in the media and academia appear most disturbed by this aberrant behavior, since they have zealously promoted moral relativism by sanctioning "private" moral matters such as alternative lifestyles. Priests, like all of us, are affected by culture. When the culture is sick, every element in it becomes infected. While it is no excuse for this scandal, it is no surprise that Boston, a seat of academic, political and cultural liberalism in America, lies at the center of the storm.
Take it easy, media--it's Boston.
― clemenza, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 18:04 (twelve years ago) link
lmao santorum even u can do better than that
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 18:06 (twelve years ago) link
next thing hell try to blame the fact that he brought a stillborn fetus home and cuddled it w/his family for a few hours on the gays
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 18:07 (twelve years ago) link
When the culture is sick, every element in it becomes infected. While that is no excuse for the Red Sox implosion in 2011, it is no surprise that Boston, a seat of academic, political and cultural liberalism in America, lies at the center of the storm.
― clemenza, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 18:09 (twelve years ago) link
who was president sterling?
fer the young'uns among'uns, see: free speech movement in 1964, president sterling of UC @ Berkeley.
― Aimless, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 18:18 (twelve years ago) link
just got an email from the DNC with the subject line "what iowa means" and thunderbird popped up a little notification: THIS MESSAGE MAY BE A SCAM.
― occupy the A train (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 18:19 (twelve years ago) link
Nobel Prize for Software
― Dr Morbois de Bologne (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 18:20 (twelve years ago) link
Boston, a seat of academic, political and cultural liberalism
yeah, right. Nothing says liberalism like the locked-down Harvard campus, the Koch bros. compound, or Scott fukkin Brown.
― gnome rocognise gnome (remy bean), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 18:22 (twelve years ago) link
lol srsly, i mean political maybe, academic no, and cultural you must be fucking joking me
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 18:23 (twelve years ago) link
So it startles Santorum that I can "sanction private moral matters" and still be appalled by pedophilia. Yeah, that's really well reasoned...
― Dan Peterson, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 18:33 (twelve years ago) link
perry stays in :)
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 18:35 (twelve years ago) link
Swimming in Santorum's wake.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 18:38 (twelve years ago) link
hahahaagghhhhh
― Steamtable Willie (WmC), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 18:39 (twelve years ago) link
“I took the day off work for this,” said insurance salesman Justin Yourison, a Paul precinct captain. “If he doesn’t get the nomination, I’m not voting for anyone else. . . . If the GOP doesn’t let us in, they can do without us.”
wonder how Paul feels about this sentiment
― The Silent Extreme (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 18:40 (twelve years ago) link
Yes, he's back.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zt6XCZz2X1Y
(Morphing Santorum into Obama--just talking visually, Morbius--is quite an achievement.)
― clemenza, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 18:42 (twelve years ago) link
I think it's time people stopped maligning the Montana Sheep Institute.
― clemenza, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 18:43 (twelve years ago) link
apparently lots of hard core Paul fanatics (which is surely like 95% of his support?) are committed to a write-in campaign if he doesn't get the GOP nod. i'm pretty ignorant about the viability of this wrt certain states/ local jurisdictions but hey
― 2012 republican presidential nominee II: Hot, Ready and Legal! (will), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 18:43 (twelve years ago) link
lol @ Santorum is a porker's best friend
― The Silent Extreme (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 18:45 (twelve years ago) link
I have a feeling this may come back to haunt Rick (no embedding):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCmvEuYjQSI
― clemenza, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 18:49 (twelve years ago) link
when Rick is listening to other people talk he looks like he smoked a full gram of hash about half an hour ago and is struggling to just keep it together until he can figure out how to put one foot in front of the other & leave the room
― unlistenable in philly (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 19:01 (twelve years ago) link
he looks like he ate a full plate of corned beef hash.
― lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 19:08 (twelve years ago) link
what kind of yes men does rick perry have, jeez
― goole, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 19:18 (twelve years ago) link
kevin drum getting pessimistic:
http://motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2012/01/how-do-you-solve-problem-mitt-romney
I'll be surprised if the GOP primary race goes much beyond the end of February, and I'll be shocked if Super Tuesday on March 6 doesn't end it completely. This means that the Republican base will have six months to resign themselves to their fate and come to the conclusion that Romney is the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful human being ever to run for president. And they will. When Job 1 is beating the anti-Christ, learning to love Mitt Romney will be a piece of cake.
So what does this mean for Team Obama? My guess: the flip-flopper charge probably won't get much traction. It's mostly a problem for conservatives, who don't fully trust that Romney is one of them, but by the time summer rolls around they're going to be his most fire-breathing supporters. They'll have long since decided to forgive and forget, and independents won't care that much in the first place as long as Romney seems halfway reasonable in his current incarnation. It's possible that Obama can do both — Romney is a flip flopper and a right-wing nutcase! — but if he has to choose, my guess is that he should forget about the flip flopping and simply do everything he can to force Romney into the wingnut conservative camp. That'll be his big weakness when Labor Day rolls around.
― goole, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 19:19 (twelve years ago) link
k drum veering a lil too into the abstract, romneys biggest weakness is that hes a droid
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 19:21 (twelve years ago) link
but by the time summer rolls around they're going to be his most fire-breathing supporters.
so not gonna happen
Obama's gonna paint him as an out-of-touch plutocrat, gonna go hard on the populist angle
― The Silent Extreme (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 19:24 (twelve years ago) link
Haven't seen any mention of it in recent days but I'm now idly wondering how much of the non-Romney sentiment really IS driven by "Mormons, ew."
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 19:26 (twelve years ago) link
is there a documented case of Romney creating jobs in a failing company as opposed to downsizing until the company is profitable? because I have only ever heard/read the latter
― Bam! Orgasm explosion in your facehole. (DJP), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 19:27 (twelve years ago) link
my understanding is all he's ever done is the latter
― horseshoe, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 19:28 (twelve years ago) link
so can we raise enough money to produce commercials accusing Romney of wanting to deport unemployed Americans, since that is where his expertise lies
― Bam! Orgasm explosion in your facehole. (DJP), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 19:29 (twelve years ago) link
i don't know if it's quantifiable. frankly i think a lot of liberals are overstating it out of hope.
frankly i think these interdenominational divisions are just not that important anymore as long as everyone is "conservative". there have been mormon senators and governors in good right-wing standing forever now. a generation ago catholics and baptists and jews and all the rest had huge alignment problems but now those lions and lambs are laying down just fine. thanks, pro-life movement, and 'clash of civilizations' etc.
sure mormonism is a little wilder with its heresies but as long as your policy positions are where they need to be all the angels-on-other-planets shit is just irrelevant
xp to ned
― goole, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 19:33 (twelve years ago) link
feeling very frank today i guess
No, that makes plenty of sense through and through. I was mostly shrugging the idea off as well and was only struck by it a bit today given that Texas meeting from all the Perry backers that was announced.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 19:37 (twelve years ago) link
These hand-wringing conservatives will start to chill out when they realize President Romney will nominate the, er, right kind of judges to the bench and SCOTUS.
― lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 19:38 (twelve years ago) link
idk, I think the religion thing is gonna be important for some, maybe not a lot, but my aunt (in her 70s, Oklahoman, staunch Baptist) is going to have a REAL tough time voting for a Mormon.
― Dan Peterson, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 19:38 (twelve years ago) link
if he wins he'll win w/ a congress that's even more right-wing than he is, so yeah, they'll be fine
― iatee, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 19:39 (twelve years ago) link
RedState is starting to cave on the point.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 19:43 (twelve years ago) link
despite being very political and very conservative for as long as i can remember, my aunt did not vote in 2008 because she was so disillusioned by McCain's nom. even though she hates Romney/Santorum/Paul even more than she did The Mav, she is going to vote GOP no matter what b/c of devil Obama
― 2012 republican presidential nominee II: Hot, Ready and Legal! (will), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 19:44 (twelve years ago) link
this time
Rick Perry would make a "better general election candidate" in which country?
― lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 19:46 (twelve years ago) link
is texas a country yet
― iatee, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 19:46 (twelve years ago) link
so many errors in that Red State post
― The Silent Extreme (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 19:46 (twelve years ago) link
i have a friend from college who is still pining for perry, so to speak
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 19:47 (twelve years ago) link
One of the commenters talked about pulling for Perry and well there you go.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 19:49 (twelve years ago) link
Perry's basic problem atm, aside from his blatant failure to attract voters, is that he took a shitload of money from his wealthy Texas backers in order to run for POTUS. If he quits now, those folks are going to be mad as hell if he walks off with their money with nothing to show for it. My guess is either they're going to make him stay in the race or else they'll force him to endorse their second choice - or they'll make his life a living hell for screwing them out of $$$.
― Aimless, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 20:05 (twelve years ago) link
what? that makes no sense.
― goole, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 20:18 (twelve years ago) link
political donations disappear as soon as they are made. there is no "ROI" unless your guy wins, which perry isn't going to do. his donors are going to demand he keep going to burn more of their money? why?
― goole, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 20:19 (twelve years ago) link
yeah I don't get that
― The Silent Extreme (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 20:20 (twelve years ago) link
If nothing else, Perry's 'wealthy Texas backers' will just keep getting paid off in-state.
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 20:23 (twelve years ago) link
This meeting with them is probably to arrange that in-state payback and to abase himself for running such a damn fool campaign he made Phil Gramm look competant by comparison.
― Aimless, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 20:27 (twelve years ago) link
mitt romney's phone game, interesting stuff
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/victory_lab/2012/01/romney_s_iowa_win_it_took_a_lot_more_than_money_.single.html
But what was more important for Romney’s team was not just that his total share of the vote remained steady but that the individual voters who comprised it didn’t move either, making it easy to keep track of who they were and to mobilize them personally.
It was the ability to pinpoint and track supporters that settled Romney’s decision to publicly commit to winning Iowa late this fall. Romney’s campaign made a big show of converting the former video store into a headquarters, while spending millions on local television ads and dispatching the candidate to travel the state more aggressively than he had. But a ruthless yet largely invisible strategy had already been in place for much of the year, tracking both Romney’s supporters and his opponents. Only when Romney’s count appeared to exceed any rival’s did advisers unveil the trappings of a traditional caucus campaign.
― goole, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 20:27 (twelve years ago) link