2012 republican presidential nominee III: can romney get santorum out of his hair?

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romney down to 40 on in trade! I know I'm the only one who cares about intrade but 97.5 to 40 in like 10 mins is pretty lol

i think this says everything you need to know about how much attention to pay to intrade

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 13:44 (twelve years ago) link

he won by 5 votes!

lag∞n, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 14:18 (twelve years ago) link

intrade is a pretty useful marker of public expectations, but yeah, bad at predicting elections w/ an 8 vote margin

iatee, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 14:25 (twelve years ago) link

the one on the far right (heh) is cute

lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 15:06 (twelve years ago) link

waht abt the one in the middle HUBBA HUBBA

lag∞n, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 15:16 (twelve years ago) link

iatee i'd say it's worse than that - with romney at 97.5 intrade wasn't even remotely accurate as to how tight the outcome would be

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 15:17 (twelve years ago) link

both those numbers were reactions to nearly finished vote counting totals no

lag∞n, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 15:19 (twelve years ago) link

if you want to evaluate its predictive powers its prob better to look before the voting started

lag∞n, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 15:20 (twelve years ago) link

before the caucuses intrade had them romney->santorum->paul

when the votes were being counted it was just people trying to be the first ones to play on public information. it's not really a prediction market in the same sense during moments like those.

xp right

iatee, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 15:22 (twelve years ago) link

Sincere question: between now and New Hampshire, will there be people from this whispered-about Republican Establishment contacting Gingrich--either directly or through intermediaries--and asking him to back off for the sake of getting Romney elected, and also to secure whatever future he has as a party eminence?

clemenza, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 15:23 (twelve years ago) link

man i'm so glad this whole thing is over!

goole, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 15:24 (twelve years ago) link

no xp

iatee, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 15:24 (twelve years ago) link

assume thats been going on the whole time, the gop establishment has been in a frothy panic for the last month that gingrich might win, the other anti romneys they dont really take serious

lag∞n, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 15:26 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyinamerica/2012/01/republican-nomination

in this and other stories like it i'm always a little struck that the people they talk to (esp those who are explaining why they are voting for romney) seem a lot less crazy than the aggregate shitshow. maybe it's an iowa thing...

goole, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 15:27 (twelve years ago) link

lol i can only pray http://motherjones.com/politics/2012/01/newt-gingrich-romney-gop-destroyer

lag∞n, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 15:28 (twelve years ago) link

what do they have to offer him? what does he have to lose? if he doesn't want to play the GOP spoiler it'll be because he doesn't want to play the GOP spoiler.

xp

iatee, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 15:28 (twelve years ago) link

It's definitely been going on in full public view--in editorials, on Sunday morning shows, etc.--I'm just curious as to how much (or whether) it goes on in earnest out of public view.

clemenza, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 15:29 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/2012/01/04/rickrolled_three_lessons_from_iowa.html

dave weigel thinks that the numbers say enthusiasm is way down but idk if his interp is right

goole, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 15:29 (twelve years ago) link

thats prob m/l true, but it doesnt mean they arent trying, and of course theyve done everything else they can to marginalize him xp iatee

lag∞n, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 15:30 (twelve years ago) link

im sure its been going on behind closed doors too, i mean its polotics, we only see the tip of the iceberg, and there are no doubt things they can offer him, all sorts lucrative think tank jobs tv appearances publishing deals etc, its just whether its worth it to him to give up his last few moments in the spotlight

lag∞n, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 15:33 (twelve years ago) link

They don't have cabinet appointments to offer him, I'm sure, but they'd be hitting him up on whatever traces of party loyalty are left, and, more important, reminding him that it's better to be inside the fold than out if you want to continue giving lucrative speeches.

clemenza, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 15:33 (twelve years ago) link

lol newt you h8 everyone so bad just say fuck it go newtclear you know you want to come on you invented that shit

lag∞n, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 15:37 (twelve years ago) link

http://mjcdn.motherjones.com/preset_12/newt_1-4.jpg
DESTROY ROMNEY DESTROY ROMNEY BLIP BLOOP BEEP

lag∞n, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 15:38 (twelve years ago) link

they dont respect you theyve never respected you after all youve done for them after all these years show them show them what you can do

lag∞n, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 15:39 (twelve years ago) link

I was just about to post how much I loved the photo in that Mother Jones link!

clemenza, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 15:40 (twelve years ago) link

ha it really captures something

lag∞n, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 15:41 (twelve years ago) link

U Got the Look, Newt.

http://www.theblaze.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/Nixon.jpg

clemenza, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 15:42 (twelve years ago) link

god damn newt's got a big head

mookieproof, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 15:43 (twelve years ago) link

Erick Erickson vents, his commenters are somewhat vexed.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 15:46 (twelve years ago) link

Wait just one cotton-pickin' minute!

vangoghssister Wednesday, January 4th at 10:12AM EST

I’ll be darned if I’m going to let 123,000 people, in Iowa of all places (or anywhere else for that matter) tell me who I am allowed to vote for in this Presidential election. I am a Perry supporter and pray for him to stay in the race. I watched the first debate. I heard the in-state tuition argument from whoever brought it up (don’t remember now). No one and I mean NO ONE, not moderators, not talking heads on television or radio ever mentioned what he actually said, standing right there on the stage, outlining briefly the process for being allowed to pay in-state tuition. From there, the falsehoods took hold about that and the stupid Gardisil thing, etc. And YOU, Mr. Erick Erickson (God bless you for all the good work you do), have only made me angry one time in all the months I’ve been lurking around here. When you interviewed Gov. Perry in California and brought the tuition issue up, you called it SCHOLARSHIPS. You see, the words we use do matter when trying to convey the truth, even if it is an accidental GAFFE. If that interview had been broadcast on the MSM or even on Fox, once the masses heard that word ‘scholarships’, they would have tuned out and turned off right then, never listening to Gov. Perry patiently explain how it really works. His team should have done more to get the truth out there and I can’t fathom why they did not. There must be a way to get the stellar accomplishments of this fine Governor out where the most people will see them, especially those who do not take the time to research a candidates platform and past performance in office.

Rats! Now I have to go to work. Keep the faith Perry Posse.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 15:47 (twelve years ago) link

Keep the faith Perry Posse.

I want to sign all of my emails with this

Much Ado About Nuttin (DJP), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 15:50 (twelve years ago) link

"in Iowa of all places"

lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 15:52 (twelve years ago) link

I like how indignant he is over the tuition issue, yet somehow he never actually says anything about what Perry actually said

Much Ado About Nuttin (DJP), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 15:53 (twelve years ago) link

ha it really captures something

Kelsey Grammer Newt Gingrich looks like a motherfucker with some dark secrets.

Dan Peterson, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 15:54 (twelve years ago) link

Romney got less votes in 2012 than he got in 2008

"it was the same number of votes, but each individual vote was smaller"

Much Ado About Nuttin (DJP), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 15:55 (twelve years ago) link

the gop establishment has been in a frothy panic

thakig u

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 15:57 (twelve years ago) link

For starters, the media would have you believe that the 123,000 people who turned out for the Hawkeye Caucii was a record. This is simply not true except superficially. If you take out the non-Republicans who came into the caucuses last night for Ron Paul, the Republican turn out was less than 2008 — even considering the ratio of independents to Republicans who turned out in 2008.

oh jesus

Much Ado About Nuttin (DJP), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 15:57 (twelve years ago) link

This is simply not true except superficially

mookieproof, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 15:58 (twelve years ago) link

Bachmann's qui--"suspending." Supposedly she'll endorse craziness.

clemenza, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 15:59 (twelve years ago) link

Ames Straw Poll selling for $0.39 on e-Bay.

clemenza, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 16:01 (twelve years ago) link

It's kind of true, though. If Ron Paul isn't the candidate, a handful of his followers will vote Republican, but a bunch will either not vote or will vote for a third party or still write him in.

And more than a few will vote for Obama

mh, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 16:03 (twelve years ago) link

pareene tweet:

RT @michaelbarthel: "Ron Paul Takes Unexpected Fourth Place on Pazz & Jop Albums List"

Dr Morbois de Bologne (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 16:06 (twelve years ago) link

"Absolutely...of course."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czBDm7qIOW0&feature=youtu.be

clemenza, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 16:21 (twelve years ago) link

o man newty sounds like hes in a dark place

lag∞n, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 16:23 (twelve years ago) link

man this thing is over

if we're talking about how newt gingrich is in his dangerous wounded underdog phase, that means it's just done. i mean, look at that sentence.

goole, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 16:25 (twelve years ago) link

i just need it to drag on for a. little. more.

lag∞n, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 16:26 (twelve years ago) link

plz dont take this away from me

lag∞n, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 16:26 (twelve years ago) link

I already know you're not Daniel, lag∞n, but sometimes I swear you are.

clemenza, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 16:28 (twelve years ago) link

From Rick Perryland:

And the next leg of the marathon is the Palmetto State...Here we come South Carolina!!! yfrog.com/odz8ujrj

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 16:28 (twelve years ago) link


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