2012 republican presidential nominee III: can romney get santorum out of his hair?

re: that Atkins piece, his characterization of liberalism is pretty accurate, which is why i said it was only 'mostly' idiotic, but he evades greenwald and stoller's main points

"they are giving you healthcare in order to buy your votes! get off the plantation!!!"

sounds slightly better than the GOP deal where they take your vote and give you nothing

srsly if people actually got stuff for their votes the country would be a better place

lol otm

Youtube comments on that Santorum clip are mindboggling:

He didn't say the word "black," he stumbled over the wordd "people's lives." Listen very closely with your ears, not your imagination. If anything, it sounds like "balite" or "palite." Very definitely not "black."

So glad he wants to make polite peoples' lives better.

If anything, it sounds like "balite" or "palite."

haha wut

polite guys finish last again

re: that atkin's piece -- characterizing liberalism as being about "intervention" is so broad as to be useless.

When Abraham Lincoln and the North decided not to allow the nation of the Confederacy--and make no mistake, it was a separate nation with separate laws and an entirely separate culture--to secede from the Union, in large part because the North had an interest in ending slavery in the South and in striking down a competing agrarian economic system, that too was intervention by a superior force against a lesser force attempting to exploit the weak and powerless. To this day, many Southerners feel that their land is being occupied by an illegitimate and invading power, and theirs a Lost Cause that will rise again.

i mean there are about a dozen things wrong with this.

his whole deal is setting up a dumb duality: some bad state of affairs exists and liberalism in favor of "intervening" to stop it. and then ron paul doesn't like 'intervening' in anything which is why he is bad. this just isn't the right way to think about anything.

lol did the homie really just argue that the north "intervened" in the south

To this day, many Southerners feel that their land is being occupied by an illegitimate and invading power, and theirs a Lost Cause that will rise again.

The End.

Joel Perkins, Age 10.

can we go back to how Rick Santorum now magically never said "black people" in that video where is clearly saying "black people"

I love the comments saying he said "a lot" or "BLIGHT" because you know, there's a big problem in America's blight community

to this day many people believe many things

theirs a Lost Cause that will rise again

... how exactly does this work

it just come on

in large part because the North had an interest in ending slavery in the South and in striking down a competing agrarian economic system

yes this is er not quite acurate

"this ideology is hopeless, one day it will reign supreme"

Listen very closely with your ears, not your imagination

I think I heard the narrator for a Disney attraction use this line.

did we talk about Santorum's followup:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwYdXOAGXlc&feature=related

I see only one black guy in the original clip: the sound man. There appear to be a few polite people, and a couple who are blighted. So I'm pretty sure he says "polite" or "blight," zeroing in on the people who are in the room listening.

'ive seen that quote and i havent seen the context in which it was made' lol man you realize youre talking abt something you said

This man is a traet.

i mean you were THERE

it's weird, he does stumble over the word, as if he knows it's a stupid thing to say even as he's saying it

that's the normalness trying to contain the hosebeast within

Santorum and his campaign manager confer privately moments later:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2RKmVqnNdw

His kids are all growed up now or something:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-waK_APFgTsk/TkbrAzzGCSI/AAAAAAAAIto/56p5FzqxLHA/s400/104.JPG

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-e6rdqhtvRTM/Tj3d4DzWhVI/AAAAAAAAIoQ/NC5c3g6jlvI/s400/053.JPG

From this, which includes this:

“Our prayers are paying off,” said 13-year-old Sarah Maria Santorum, whose father soon emerged from the throng, stood on a chair and addressed the crowd. …

“Our prayers are paying off.”

Understand that I wasn’t “interviewing” Sarah Santorum. We were just talking, and I made some remark about how huge the crowd was, and then she just said that sentence clear out of the blue. It made such an impression that I immediately jotted it down on a scrap of paper.

Advanced Reporting Seminar, for you newbies: You get the best quotes when you just talk to people, instead of interrogating them in a confrontational manner. Be informal and friendly, put people at ease and listen to what they say. You’ll learn a lot more that way, whether you get a quote or not, and people will say real honest stuff rather than reciting talking points.

But my memory is shaky and I’m bad with names, so when I sat down to write my column – in the deli department of the Hy-Vee grocery story, which has free WiFi – I wanted to make sure I had Sarah’s name and age right. And when I Googled her name, one of the results was that picture at the top of this post.

Yeah, it’s her: The Santorum kid who gave me that quote was the same girl who cried so helplessly on national TV that night in 2006 during her dad’s concession speech. I’d forgotten all about that, until I saw the picture. Then I remembered how the video clip had been played over and over on the news, and also on late-night comedy shows while people mocked the way Sarah and her family cried. And I remembered my wife saying how bad she felt while watching that little girl, hugging her doll, and crying for the whole world to see.

Amazing that I’d talked to her without recognizing her – a poised and cheerful young lady — as that same little girl. But even more amazing, I think she’s exactly right when she says, “our prayers are paying off.”

As I write this, the folks on “Fox and Friends” are marveling at how Santorum went from single digits in the polls to being a serious contender in the space of just a few days. Say what you will, I call it a miracle.

Aw, bless. The hangover'll be amusing.

why is she not holding a doll w/matching red eagle santorum shirt, i am confuse

why is this child, the product of an immaculate conception, wearing mini shorts?

Chance of Ron (or Rick), generally Mitt.

http://www.thestatecolumn.com/articles/iowa-weather-forecast-for-iowa-caucus-voting/

prays for sleet

Morbs, I'm sorry to say that, although the consequences of two near-identical corporatists "debating" for 10 months might be to completely delegitimize the Republicrat oligarchy, the more likely outcome is to just make most people so discouraged and unhappy that they give up and tune out politics entirely.

yes! and so it begins!

do you think it is likely that this will be a low-turnout election?

ELECT YOURSELF

(icey, I'm sorry I let you have it w/ both barrels, but enough w/ the username masquerades)

depends on the economy I think xp

lol no worries morbs

Let Herman Cain move you. Nationally.

lol

In Perry, Santorum gave his opinion that President Obama was more of a divisive figure than Richard Nixon, keeper of the enemies list: “I suspect President Nixon, although I don’t know, would talk and work with people and wouldn’t go out and demonize them as this president has done.”

Cain still claims he will endorse a candidate eventually — and in an “unconventional” manner in keeping with his “unconventional candidate” theme, to boot.

The mind reels at what this might entail.

http://www.newquaypeople.co.uk/images/localpeople/ugc-images/275722/Article/images/11027204/1825828.jpg

And yes--Nixon had a strict rule about demonizing his opponents.

do you think it is likely that this will be a low-turnout election?

Which sect is bigger, motivated haters of "the Kenyan socialist" or stayin-home 2008 Hopers whose fantasies were crushed?

Which sect is bigger, motivated haters of "the Kenyan socialist" or stayin-home 2008 Hopers whose fantasies were crushed?

in voting, positive motivations outweigh negative motivations every time, so 2008 Hopers for the win

uh, in this election they're BOTH negative, boss.

I would think that positively hating someone is a strong motivator...any chance you could take it over here for the next few hours, Morbius?

Indefinite Detention? But I Have Soccer Practice at 4: U.S. Politics 2012

no, I'm done. Enjoy your flea circus.

Hope, as they say, springs eternal. It's just another thing to drive you crzy.

uh, in this election they're BOTH negative, boss.

no. the people who want to vote for Obama will be more likely to vote than the people who want to vote against Obama. it's that simple.

ie you are vastly overestimating the number of 2008 Hopers whose fantasies have been crushed

I generally don't try to police threads. I just feel like tonight is about Rick Santorum's heroic struggle to keep black people off welfare.

interesting if true

xxp