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I forgot to mention that Thurston Moore mentions his love of Yes from time to time. I think someone already mentioned that here about him liking "Gates of Delirium",, which is my favorite Yes song too.

In just over an hour that Timeshift Prog special will be on and we'll have double to moan about.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 3 January 2009 20:00 (fifteen years ago) link

This has become an intellectual discussion of prog music - it's like reading the elephant talk newletters. bleh.

❤ⓛⓞⓥⓔ❤ (CaptainLorax), Saturday, 3 January 2009 20:22 (fifteen years ago) link

what's next, an intellectual discussion of IDM music? God forbid

❤ⓛⓞⓥⓔ❤ (CaptainLorax), Saturday, 3 January 2009 20:23 (fifteen years ago) link

Yes, there's far too much pseudo-intelectual widdle on this board.

Party Sausage, Saturday, 3 January 2009 20:25 (fifteen years ago) link

I think everyone eventually ends up liking And You And I more than CTTE :D

Madness!

Sundar, Saturday, 3 January 2009 20:49 (fifteen years ago) link

that bailey-radcliff special is fantastic. thanks for posting it. it's a treat to see those guys joking around and goofing off. critics have ignored them for too long, and no one ever interviews them, so their personalities are lost to people like me who were born after punk supposedly saved rock music

kamerad, Sunday, 4 January 2009 01:22 (fifteen years ago) link

I actually dont like "You and I" as much as the other two tracks,,, but I obviously still love it. There is maybe only 2 mintues of that album that dont have me on the edge of insane excitement.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 4 January 2009 01:53 (fifteen years ago) link

this is the worst thread. are you guys all british?

(jaxon) ( .) ( .) (jaxon), Sunday, 4 January 2009 02:38 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm british. I agree that this thread would have been amazing if more of us were from somewhere like Argentina.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 4 January 2009 02:56 (fifteen years ago) link

Magnification is fantastic, but no interesting time signatures in sight.

Who recommended I listen to Gates of Delirium? You sort of changed my life.

More later, including wondering who the fuck Egg was.

if some1 could fills me in i would like it (Autumn Almanac), Sunday, 4 January 2009 23:39 (fifteen years ago) link

lol i think that was me

REMOVE THEIR EARS (country matters), Monday, 5 January 2009 13:18 (fifteen years ago) link

more along the lines of drum heavy stuff as opposed to the pastoral mellotron soaked epic gnome and wizard shit

Then the answer is no because all good prog is all about "pastoral mellotron soaked epics" and not much about exaggerated drums.

Geir Hongro, Monday, 5 January 2009 13:21 (fifteen years ago) link

IT'S THE YES EPICS POLL

so you got there in the end AA!

REMOVE THEIR EARS (country matters), Monday, 5 January 2009 13:22 (fifteen years ago) link

"this is the worst thread. are you guys all british?"

I'm Italian. I got prog in my blood.

Marco Damiani, Monday, 5 January 2009 17:22 (fifteen years ago) link

That said, even if I'm not an avid fan of Genesis and Yes, I totally love King Crimson and VDGG, and all those semi-forgotten acts like Catapilla and Curved Air.

Marco Damiani, Monday, 5 January 2009 17:32 (fifteen years ago) link

Yes! Yes I did.

if some1 could fills me in i would like it (Autumn Almanac), Monday, 5 January 2009 19:46 (fifteen years ago) link

(hur, YES, get it)

if some1 could fills me in i would like it (Autumn Almanac), Monday, 5 January 2009 19:46 (fifteen years ago) link

No.

Special topics: Disco, The Common Market (grimly fiendish), Monday, 5 January 2009 19:47 (fifteen years ago) link

(j/k)

Special topics: Disco, The Common Market (grimly fiendish), Monday, 5 January 2009 19:47 (fifteen years ago) link

I do think it's funny how some people don't care for early genesis but claim to be a prog fan. I bet those people are more fans of The Mars Volta side of the spectrum of prog music.

❤ⓛⓞⓥⓔ❤ (CaptainLorax), Monday, 5 January 2009 19:51 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm not sure if you're referring to me but I love Foxtrot and Nursery Cryme (and Wind & Wuthering), so it's just one patch that I don't care for.

if some1 could fills me in i would like it (Autumn Almanac), Monday, 5 January 2009 20:09 (fifteen years ago) link

as long as you like some early genesis you're okay in my book

❤ⓛⓞⓥⓔ❤ (CaptainLorax), Monday, 5 January 2009 20:28 (fifteen years ago) link

I mean, using three chords is unsophisticated, really

Tell that to Neu!, they made do with one for a lot of the time

Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Tom D.), Thursday, 8 January 2009 17:02 (fifteen years ago) link

Anway, I enjoyed this prog prog., even tho I kinda agree with whoever upthread said "Owner Of A Lonely Heart" was the best tune on it

Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Tom D.), Thursday, 8 January 2009 17:05 (fifteen years ago) link

Ever since this went out I've been getting I AM THE GOD OF HELLFIRE AND I BRING YOU in my head at spontaneous intervals ~20 times a day.

im burt_stanton btw (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 8 January 2009 20:14 (fifteen years ago) link

Tell that to Neu!, they made do with one for a lot of the time

One of the worst things about krautrock.

Geir Hongro, Thursday, 8 January 2009 21:46 (fifteen years ago) link

Finally got round to watching Prog Britannia on IPlayer today and was pleasantly surprised, given how condescending it could have been. One thing no-one really mentioned was the influence of Broadway musicals on prog, which had grown out of light opera which in turn was a more accessible version of "serious" classical music. I'm sure these guys all grew up hearing West Side Story etc (they played The Nice version of America a lot in the doc admittedly), and it seems like the big unacknowledged influence to me, probably because it's so astoundingly uncool.

Matt #2, Thursday, 8 January 2009 22:31 (fifteen years ago) link

Songs Of West Side Story Soundtrack Album Track Listing
14. Rumble, The - Chick Corea's Elektric Band Vs. Steve Vai Monsters

Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Thursday, 8 January 2009 22:33 (fifteen years ago) link

they also didn't mention (although i think i saw clips of it) rick wakeman's king authur on ice thing and his great anecdote about the time when, due to illness, one side had more members than the other...

koogs, Friday, 9 January 2009 10:30 (fifteen years ago) link

Come to think of it, were there any women in this show at all?

Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Tom D.), Friday, 9 January 2009 10:33 (fifteen years ago) link

Or in this entire series of programmes? Oh, I think I saw Anne Nightingale introducing King Crimson.

Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Tom D.), Friday, 9 January 2009 10:34 (fifteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

holy nerd! BBC's Prog Rock Britannia in three parts on youtube

now is the time to winterize your manscape (will), Thursday, 5 February 2009 14:10 (fifteen years ago) link

two years pass...

The 25 Best Progressive Rock Songs of All Time
http://www.popmatters.com/pm/feature/141547-best-25-rock-songs-of-all-time/P0

There are likely a song or two that some readers won’t recognize, but I endeavored to not make this an exercise in obscurity (a person willing to rank prog-rock songs does not—or should not—need to further bolster his ambiguous street cred by listing songs nobody is remotely familiar with).

Seems to me a cop out just cuz dude was too half-assed to bother checking out Van Der Graaf Generator, Gong, Gentle Giant, etc. So it should be qualified as best populist prog choons or something. I made a playlist of the ones I have of above, but it's begging for an additional 25....

Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 26 May 2011 16:27 (twelve years ago) link

that list is rope tbh

Deeez Nuuults (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 26 May 2011 17:12 (twelve years ago) link

one year passes...

Dunno if this has been posted somewhere yet but this 5-part Slate series on prog is really nice

http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/prog_spring/features/2012/prog_rock/history_of_prog_the_nice_emerson_lake_palmer_and_other_bands_of_the_1970s_.html

frogbs, Friday, 24 August 2012 14:45 (eleven years ago) link

Man, I can't believe I wrote off Mahavishnu upthread.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Friday, 24 August 2012 14:56 (eleven years ago) link

y'all have checked out this, right? http://everygreatsongever.tumblr.com/tagged/UK-prog
extensive series of UK prog mixes. I haven't even made it through the first five and he's up to vol. 17. fun stuff.

tylerw, Friday, 24 August 2012 15:05 (eleven years ago) link

there were so many errors in that slate series

buzza, Friday, 24 August 2012 15:08 (eleven years ago) link

it's definitely not entirely accurate but it's still a good read

frogbs, Friday, 24 August 2012 15:09 (eleven years ago) link

Man, I can't believe I wrote off Mahavishnu upthread.

― EveningStar (Sund4r), Friday, August 24, 2012 10:56 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

OTM

look at this quarterstaff (Hurting 2), Friday, 24 August 2012 15:41 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah, I thought that Slate piece was a mess. Errors, too much pride in liking ELP while still sort of making fun of the genre/the author himself, a poor job pointing out how different, say, King Crimson was from Genesis, or Gentle Giant from Yes, etc.

Mahavishnu is incredible. Not sure how prog it is. To my ears it is sort of Crimson-heavy.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 24 August 2012 17:41 (eleven years ago) link

I'm just glad to see The Nice get some credit; they weren't really a great band or even really a good one, but the fact that they're unheard of is ridiculous

frogbs, Monday, 27 August 2012 00:58 (eleven years ago) link

mahavishnu is fusion not prog IMO

Jandek at the Disco (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 27 August 2012 23:42 (eleven years ago) link

fusion as well but whatvr

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Monday, 27 August 2012 23:46 (eleven years ago) link

mahavishnu is fusion not prog IMO

funny because my jazz snob dad wrote them off as too prog. obv they are "fusion" as far as record store bins are concerned, but imo they are only about 11% less prog than 1974 era king crimson

Dominique, Tuesday, 28 August 2012 06:06 (eleven years ago) link

i have this thread to thank for my new name.

pastoral mellotron soaked epic gnome and wizard shit (get bent), Tuesday, 28 August 2012 06:21 (eleven years ago) link

i'm not really sure how to classify Mahavishnu either but it's clear that prog fans are like their #1 audience and that jazz dudes aren't really keen on them

frogbs, Tuesday, 28 August 2012 15:20 (eleven years ago) link

yeah but marsalis/crouch jazz snobs think everything after bitches brew and ornette is basically insane clown posse

Jandek at the Disco (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 28 August 2012 15:56 (eleven years ago) link

y'all have checked out this, right? http://everygreatsongever.tumblr.com/tagged/UK-prog
extensive series of UK prog mixes. I haven't even made it through the first five and he's up to vol. 17. fun stuff.

Seconding this, the writeups are really good too.

B-Boy Bualadh Bos (ecuador_with_a_c), Tuesday, 28 August 2012 15:58 (eleven years ago) link


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