don't like the obviously-all-shot-in-front-of-a-green-screen-ness of it all :(
― DG, Thursday, 17 July 2008 19:54 (fifteen years ago) link
I think it looks terrible. color scheme is all wrong.
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 17 July 2008 19:55 (fifteen years ago) link
would love to hear deeznuts explain how this movie is inherently superior to the comics by virtue of its being a movie
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 17 July 2008 19:59 (fifteen years ago) link
OK, it's also at (shudder) Harry Knowles's.
DG, it wasn't all shot in front of a green screen! It was shot mostly on practical sets!
Love the shot of Veidt nailing the assassin guy. And the Dr. Manhattan effects look great.
― Pancakes Hackman, Thursday, 17 July 2008 19:59 (fifteen years ago) link
they did actually film on Mars i believe
― blueski, Thursday, 17 July 2008 20:01 (fifteen years ago) link
No, they filmed on Venus doubling for Mars. It's cheaper to travel towards the sun for a movie crew.
― Pancakes Hackman, Thursday, 17 July 2008 20:02 (fifteen years ago) link
http://base58.com/pics/watchmen/w1.jpg http://base58.com/pics/watchmen/w2.jpg http://base58.com/pics/watchmen/w5.jpg
― blueski, Thursday, 17 July 2008 20:02 (fifteen years ago) link
http://base58.com/pics/watchmen/w6.jpg http://base58.com/pics/watchmen/w7.jpg http://base58.com/pics/watchmen/w8.jpg
― blueski, Thursday, 17 July 2008 20:03 (fifteen years ago) link
http://base58.com/pics/watchmen/w9.jpg http://base58.com/pics/watchmen/w10.jpg http://base58.com/pics/watchmen/w11.jpg
http://base58.com/pics/watchmen/w12.jpg http://base58.com/pics/watchmen/w13.jpg
sorry, i'm done
is that aged Nixon on the TVs behind Veidt then?
― blueski, Thursday, 17 July 2008 20:04 (fifteen years ago) link
Looks interesting to me! Virtual sets/actors is the only way this thing COULD work, short of being an animation (which I can't believe no one had a serious go at).
― forksclovetofu, Thursday, 17 July 2008 20:05 (fifteen years ago) link
i know, i read the production blog from time to time. still looks weird tho. that shot of dr manhattan blowing up a viet cong looks like some 1996 command and conquer cutscene
― DG, Thursday, 17 July 2008 20:05 (fifteen years ago) link
> would love to hear deeznuts explain how this movie is inherently superior to the comics by virtue of its being a movie
-- Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, July 17, 2008 7:59 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Link
Music is also inherently superior to sculpture.
― Oilyrags, Thursday, 17 July 2008 20:05 (fifteen years ago) link
ok haven't seen trailer but stills look fucking awesome
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 17 July 2008 20:30 (fifteen years ago) link
the only good I can see coming of this is that maybe Dave Gibbons got a lot of money
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 17 July 2008 20:34 (fifteen years ago) link
My status is still intrigued but skeptical. Only universally stinking reviews will stop me checking it out out of curiosity, though.
― chap, Thursday, 17 July 2008 20:36 (fifteen years ago) link
we get it dude. you dont like it. xp
― s1ocki, Thursday, 17 July 2008 20:36 (fifteen years ago) link
Another link for the trailer: http://io9.com/5026402/watch-how-faithful-watchmen-will-be
― Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 17 July 2008 21:06 (fifteen years ago) link
I, like Shakey Mo, love this trailer and I will be first in line.
― jeff, Thursday, 17 July 2008 21:22 (fifteen years ago) link
i always imagined theire outfits to look way rattier/homemade/not like batman begins
― Will M., Thursday, 17 July 2008 21:25 (fifteen years ago) link
"I guess I look pretty Devo, huh?"
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 17 July 2008 21:26 (fifteen years ago) link
yep
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 17 July 2008 21:28 (fifteen years ago) link
top marks for manhattanpants
― DG, Thursday, 17 July 2008 22:05 (fifteen years ago) link
omgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomg
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Thursday, 17 July 2008 22:15 (fifteen years ago) link
As my wife likes to remind me, I am quite often way too cynical for my own good. So as far as this movie goes, I've decided to just geek the fuck out and enjoy it.
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Thursday, 17 July 2008 22:16 (fifteen years ago) link
love the nipples on the Ozymandias suit
― latebloomer, Thursday, 17 July 2008 22:27 (fifteen years ago) link
I loved that B&W still that was released a few months back but I absolutely hate the trailer. Eh, I'll still see it.
― Allen, Thursday, 17 July 2008 22:30 (fifteen years ago) link
why is Ozymandias wearing nipple-plated leatherwear rather than the greco-egyptian shit his entire persona is centered on
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 17 July 2008 22:45 (fifteen years ago) link
seriously so much wrong, you guys are on crack
"You can't even turn the pages on this movie!"
― forksclovetofu, Thursday, 17 July 2008 22:46 (fifteen years ago) link
It's, like, metatextual, Shakey. Like how the comic was a comic about comics, the movie is a movie about movies. Therefore the "modern" (i.e., 1985) heroes in the movie have costumes more like current movie heroes, just like how 1990s Batman costume was so much different from Adam West costume.
Yes, it's anachronistic. So is Richard Nixon in the White House in 1985. Deal.
― Pancakes Hackman, Thursday, 17 July 2008 22:59 (fifteen years ago) link
this can't be bad! rorschach's mask moves! oooooooooh
― DG, Thursday, 17 July 2008 23:08 (fifteen years ago) link
Some panels that correspond with the stills blueski posted above:
http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/4835/watchmen1up7.jpg
http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/2829/watchmen2xv6.jpeg
http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/7523/watchmen3qw5.jpeg
― Pancakes Hackman, Thursday, 17 July 2008 23:09 (fifteen years ago) link
Like how the comic was a comic about comics, the movie is a movie about movies.
does not compute
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 17 July 2008 23:12 (fifteen years ago) link
Uh, ok. I guess not, if you're determined to be dumb/stubborn/whatever.
― Pancakes Hackman, Thursday, 17 July 2008 23:14 (fifteen years ago) link
you might note that I'm not complaining about anachronisms - which are crucial to the "alternate reality" theme of the story - I'm complaining abotu STUPID SHIT that is in there for no reason and has nothing to do with the character other than "oooh we need to have the bad guy in black. leather. with nipples. wouldn't that be cool."
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 17 July 2008 23:14 (fifteen years ago) link
saying its a movie about movies is a gross misrepresentation - its a movie about a comic book about comic books. unless they've completely re-written the plot.
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 17 July 2008 23:15 (fifteen years ago) link
I wonder if this will be worse than V For Vendetta was.
― Alex in SF, Thursday, 17 July 2008 23:21 (fifteen years ago) link
Snyder has exlicitly stated that Ozymandias has nipples because of the Clooney-era Batsuit, in the spirit of recontextualization that Pancakes mentions. Like it or not, it's definitely not them trying to be "bad guy in scary outfit" or whatever.
― Simon H., Thursday, 17 July 2008 23:22 (fifteen years ago) link
Er maybe it's because designing a costume that an actual guy has to actually wear is different from just drawing one? The metal looking collar and cuffs he has in the book look quite impractical; they're still there in the movie, just a bit more realistic. And maybe on screen a poncey purple robe really doesn't look like an effective superhero costume.
xp.
― ledge, Thursday, 17 July 2008 23:22 (fifteen years ago) link
i thought homeboy had nips in the comix
― and what, Thursday, 17 July 2008 23:22 (fifteen years ago) link
http://www.flytecrewblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/watchpeanuts.jpg
― and what, Thursday, 17 July 2008 23:24 (fifteen years ago) link
okay I would watch that 24/7
― HI DERE, Thursday, 17 July 2008 23:29 (fifteen years ago) link
Linus as the Comedian is rather inspired
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 17 July 2008 23:31 (fifteen years ago) link
I wouldn't think it was possible but Snyder looks set to prove me wrong.
ref'ing Schumacher Batman films = stupidest excuse I've ever heard
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 17 July 2008 23:32 (fifteen years ago) link
I think Shroeder should be Manhattan and Charlie Brown the Night Owl. Of course that makes Pigpen Oz which makes no sense at all.
― Alex in SF, Thursday, 17 July 2008 23:33 (fifteen years ago) link
so in the spirit of "recontextualization" did all the Minutemen don costumes cuz they were inspired to fight crime by Fantastic Four: The Rise of the Silver Surfer? Or was it more of a Dolph Lundgren-as-the-Punisher thing.
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 17 July 2008 23:35 (fifteen years ago) link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watchmen_(film)
In December 2006, comic book artists Adam Hughes and John Cassaday were confirmed to work on character and costume design for Watchmen. Costume tests were being done by March 2007. 300 associate producer Wesley Coller played Rorschach in a costume test, which Snyder inserted into an R-rated trailer for 300. Although he intended to stay faithful to the look of the characters in the comic, Snyder intended Nite Owl to look scarier, and wanted Ozymandias to possess authentic Egyptian attire and artifacts. Nite Owl and Silk Spectre changed most from the comic, as Snyder felt "audiences might not appreciate the naiveté of the original costumes. So, there has been some effort to give them a (...) modern look — and not modern in the sense of 2007, but modern in terms of the superhero aesthetic". Snyder also wanted the costumes to "comment directly on many of today’s modern masked vigilantes": The Ozymandias costume, with its molded muscles and nipples, parodies the costumes in Batman Forever (1995) and Batman & Robin (1997). Set designers selected four Kansas City sculptors' works for use in the set of Dr. Manhattan's apartment after discovering their works on the Internet.
So, it looks like everyone's right! It's meta-commentary on modern superhero costumes and an attempt to pander to the audience with glossier costumes. You may now make out.
― HI DERE, Thursday, 17 July 2008 23:35 (fifteen years ago) link
test marketing indicated widespread nipple parody approval
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 17 July 2008 23:38 (fifteen years ago) link