The Miracle of the Smiths

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"Hang the tinsel, hang the tinsel/Hang the tinsel, hang the tinsel/Hang the tinsel hang the tinsel hang the tinsel" etc.

― Race Against Rockism (Myonga Vön Bontee), Tuesday, November 15, 2011 6:31 PM (3 days ago)

^ May never get this out of my head.

john. a resident of chicago., Friday, 18 November 2011 13:28 (six years ago) Permalink

That's a really good review by Douglas Wolk. I've always liked his reviews of James Brown's singles volumes for P4k and his review of The Fall's Peel Sessions (for Believer) was great.

Kind of shocked that they didn't include 'Jeane' in the complete box set. That's insane.

righteousmaelstrom, Friday, 18 November 2011 18:10 (six years ago) Permalink

ha, it really is. wonder if there's some kinda rarities comp in the works?

tylerw, Friday, 18 November 2011 18:15 (six years ago) Permalink

less insane to leave shit out than to include some stuff twice and not remaster all of it

Θ ̨Θƪ (sic), Friday, 18 November 2011 22:41 (six years ago) Permalink

3 new entries on tacky badge up btw

tubbs farkas (electricsound), Saturday, 19 November 2011 00:30 (five years ago) Permalink

mostly on account of that blog i think the smiths are my most listened to band this year. that single version of "the boy with the thorn in his side" (prolly my fave tune of theirs) is flippin' brilliant

epigram addict (outdoor_miner), Saturday, 19 November 2011 02:01 (five years ago) Permalink

8.1? get tae fuck.

piscesx, Saturday, 19 November 2011 07:22 (five years ago) Permalink

yeah, the rating is a joke. never trust ratings, esp. from s&p and pitchfork. the article is good though.

alex in mainhattan, Saturday, 19 November 2011 08:34 (five years ago) Permalink

i'm finding the drums and other percussive elements on some tracks of these remasters a little hard to take. far too foregrounded for my taste, i think i'll stick with my old versions.

jed_, Saturday, 19 November 2011 17:28 (five years ago) Permalink

three months pass...

many updates on the smiths 'extra track and a tacky badge' blog since we last revived this
they've still got a fair few singles to go mind..

piscesx, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 04:19 (five years ago) Permalink

more updates.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 12 March 2012 00:41 (five years ago) Permalink


these make a great listen as a whole

Flat Of NAGLs (sleeve), Monday, 12 March 2012 02:45 (five years ago) Permalink

Xpost*2 - It looks to me they only have one single left to do.

Mark G, Monday, 12 March 2012 09:35 (five years ago) Permalink

well, that makes six at the time pisces said it.

Θ ̨Θƪ (sic), Monday, 12 March 2012 11:56 (five years ago) Permalink

Oh right.

They've been 'becalmed' for ages, fair enough.

Mark G, Monday, 12 March 2012 12:24 (five years ago) Permalink

dandydonweiner, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 00:54 (five years ago) Permalink

terrible piece

Θ ̨Θƪ (sic), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 01:21 (five years ago) Permalink

The last single was posted earlier, the next recycled project is REM! Excited for that one!

nate woolls, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 17:03 (five years ago) Permalink

The Nitzer Ebb singles one sounds cool too.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 17:06 (five years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

crisply denied by Marr

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 26 April 2012 16:49 (five years ago) Permalink

It is never going to happen.

Respectfully, Tyrese Gibson (Nicole), Thursday, 26 April 2012 17:41 (five years ago) Permalink

seems like the best anyone could hope for is a marr/morrissey collab sometime in the future. but even that is unlikely, I think.

tylerw, Thursday, 26 April 2012 17:50 (five years ago) Permalink

in the long run all bands reunite one day...

in the berlin program magazine tip there was a page announcing concerts of bands where i didn't even know that they still had living members. like bad company, mötley crüe, beach boys, blue öyster cult, lynyrd skynyrd, bachman turner overdrive. i was also surprised to hear that roger chapman and james taylor still have to tour...

alex in mainhattan, Saturday, 28 April 2012 17:49 (five years ago) Permalink

But... The Smiths reunion with a Morrissey hologram! $$$$ £££ amirite?

StanM, Saturday, 28 April 2012 18:07 (five years ago) Permalink

in the long run all bands reunite one day...

Yeah that Beatles tour was something.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 28 April 2012 20:09 (five years ago) Permalink

the beatles would have toured if only there hadn't been this crazy psychopath...

alex in mainhattan, Saturday, 28 April 2012 21:30 (five years ago) Permalink


StanM, Saturday, 28 April 2012 21:35 (five years ago) Permalink

the one that shot john lennon, i meant.

alex in mainhattan, Saturday, 28 April 2012 21:40 (five years ago) Permalink

I know, sorry :-(

StanM, Saturday, 28 April 2012 21:46 (five years ago) Permalink

i know that you knew, so that's ok ;-)

alex in mainhattan, Saturday, 28 April 2012 21:54 (five years ago) Permalink

I appreciate the bands that reunite every once in a while but don't tour, like zep.

Ccr hasn't reunited yet, but could. Same with husker du, but they're far less likely than Smiths.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 28 April 2012 22:48 (five years ago) Permalink

still baffled that the so called Complete box set is missing not only 5 of the original non album single tracks but that there is STILL after 3 decades no complete BBC/ Peel session stuff available. it's the 21st century, The Smiths are regarded as the 2nd best UK band since The Beatles yet there's a Smiths *Peel session* of How Soon Is Now that isn't on CD. i mean.. words fail me.

piscesx, Saturday, 28 April 2012 23:04 (five years ago) Permalink

What are the 5 tracks?

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Sunday, 29 April 2012 01:55 (five years ago) Permalink

Wonderful Woman
Work Is A Four Letter Word
I Keep Mine Hidden
The Draize Train

plus if one wanted a *complete* catalogue in the box you really ought to have the Kervorkian 'New York Mix' of This Charming Man, the live James cover of What's The World (from the B side of the CD EP of I Started Something..) and the alt version of Accept Yourself.

piscesx, Sunday, 29 April 2012 07:24 (five years ago) Permalink

"Jeane", "Wonderful Woman", and the NY "This Charming Man" are on the deluxe The Sound Of The Smiths, along with "You Just Haven't Earned It Yet, Baby" at its original speed.

Leslie Mann: Boner Machine (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 29 April 2012 07:45 (five years ago) Permalink

indeed. remastered too. makes the exclusion even more baffling.

piscesx, Sunday, 29 April 2012 09:02 (five years ago) Permalink

the only things I possibly do not know from this are

alt 'accept yourself'
Peel 'how soon is now?' - I don't think I had any idea that existed.

but I have feeling there might be one or two other Peel tracks?

once you start including live tracks, well how about
the very early 'handsome devil'
the late 'some girls are bigger than others' with alt lyrics
the Oxford Road Show tracks from 'that joke'

and what was it they contributed to that NME tape in 1985 ... was it just a live take of 'nowhere fast' or something?

the pinefox, Sunday, 29 April 2012 09:32 (five years ago) Permalink

According to Discogs they didn't contribute to an NME tape but a live version of 'What She Said ' featured on a 7" EP which was given away with poll winners issue.

fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Sunday, 29 April 2012 09:47 (five years ago) Permalink

The Peel session versions of London and Half A Person are better than the studio versions, and (as far as I know) are unreleased.

Ian Edmond, Sunday, 29 April 2012 11:23 (five years ago) Permalink

yeah the Peel London *flattens* the original and that's unreleased. the Nowhere Fast BBC sesh is also killer
there's a pretty neat summing up of all the Jensen/ Peel sessions, which ones were released and the differences between them on the Hatful.. Wiki

there was also this if we're getting *mega* completist re sessions; the Sandie Shaw BBC sesh of Jeanne and I Don't Owe You Anythng which i don't even think i've ever heard
amazing that somehow *that* is on CD and some Smiths ones aren't.

piscesx, Sunday, 29 April 2012 12:49 (five years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

Has anyone ever found anything much to redeem 'Never Nad No-One Ever'?

the pinefox, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 13:17 (five years ago) Permalink

Dods, yes, I have that 7-inch - it also has a U2 'Wire' remix

the pinefox, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 13:18 (five years ago) Permalink

It's best to think of it as a parody of a Smiths song. xp

Respectfully, Tyrese Gibson (Nicole), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 13:28 (five years ago) Permalink

it's a highly enjoyable prime slab of desperate melodrama served with just a hint of stalkery horseradish

Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 13:36 (five years ago) Permalink

Yeah, but sequenced right after the similarly paced (and far superior) "I Know It's Over," it really stops that album dead in its tracks.

buh, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 13:55 (five years ago) Permalink

it's starts again when you flip it over ;)

although i don't like cemetry gates much either. actually considering what a formative record this was for me there are rather a lot of songs that i dislike.

jed_, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 14:19 (five years ago) Permalink

Never Had No One Ever is not really a song, it's basically a vamp. Its position immediately after I Know It's Over is usually considered a sequencing mistake, but I think it's probably deliberate - the similarity of keys and tempos mean I hear it as I Know It's Over's looser, offhand coda. In this way, it has the same function as the similarly paced (and similarly placed) ending to Death of a Disco Dancer on Strangeways. I enjoy myself listening to it, but I am easily pleased by this kind of thing (I could listen to someone going between Am and Dm all day).

While I'm here, I want to mention another good Smiths site that I haven't seen mentioned here; Smiths on Guitar. Here is the page for Never Had No One Ever. For some songs, the site has little more than the chords scanned from the sheet music, but for others it has some fascinating videos and quotes.

Eyeball Kicks, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 08:53 (five years ago) Permalink

four months pass...

reunion is GO! .. allegedly.

first heard this from a pretty reliable source some months back, raised a quizzical eyebrow. seems like it could be on the cards after all (no Mike Joyce though).

piscesx, Monday, 1 October 2012 15:21 (five years ago) Permalink

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