Yelawolf: Trunk Muzik/ TM 0-60 / Radioactive

this katy b is great tho

i dont want a world where m@tt listens to what lex tells him. no diss to either of you but

I love Mike too (and his record from this year is better than this) but the album he's doing with El-P is gonna be called R.A.P. (which stands for Rebellious African Peoples) Music, so he's not averse to bad titles. And the Slumerican Shitizen thing fits pretty well with his persona

i think "slumerican shitizen" is a bit more knowing than Rebellious African Peoples Music

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i dont want a world where m@tt listens to what lex tells him. no diss to either of you but

― Regional Thug (D-40), Thursday, November 17, 2011 6:20 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark

lol i'm really listening to the new Future of the Left EP and Cosmic Slop today

check M@tt's recent Spotify activity, if Notorious K.I.M. and Pink Friday aren't back-to-back every day for the last two weeks, I'd say he's free from lexfluence

lex was suggesting we /do/ listen to slumerican shitizen

whats this album called again?

Not heard this yet but I've kinda resigned myself to the fact that this guy's career is gonna be a long downhill plummet from 'Trunk Muzik'.

so cynical! and on no evidence apart from superimposing other artists' career trajectories on to someone who's shown no actual slipping of his skills.

Evidence: Trunk Muzik is better than Trunk Muzik 0-60 is (mostly) better than "Hard White" is better than the Kid Rock track is better than the vibe I'm getting off people's reactions to the whole album in this thread.

But I will obviously wait to hear this album and then decide.

if dude can at least throw out the occasional mixtape that has a more street sound to it, I can forgive his occasional mainstream sins. course on Shady's label, who knows....

My record store had this out today. So I bought it.

Loved Trunk Muzik, only liked 0-60. Am hoping for the best with this. But boy does it just *look* cluttered with junk from the outside.

trunk muzik 0-60 isn't significantly worse than its predecessor and definitely doesn't contain any "warning sign" change of directions. "daddy's lambo" is one of the best songs yelawolf has done. "shit i seen" was another promising track this year, that ended up in my top 10 tracks of the year which is no mean feat.

writing yelawolf off like this kind of smacks of "i only liked him before he was signed" tbh.

check M@tt's recent Spotify activity, if Notorious K.I.M. and Pink Friday aren't back-to-back every day for the last two weeks, I'd say he's free from lexfluence

i don't even like pink friday that much! the bulk of the non-bonus tracks are not very necessary

In fairness Yela does well with what he's given here and most of the problems stem from bad advice probably. The two Trunk Muziks are about as good as one another but I don't see any reason why he couldn't make another awesome mixtape or even an album with people who weren't intent on sucking all the personality out of him.

Also I suppose now is the time to say something hopeful about bonus tracks?

"Fulla Shit" by Rittz would be another good unofficial bonus track

There was some talk recently of Yela and KRIT potentially doing a whole project together, which I wholeheartedly endorse.

Also (most of) the second half of this isn't outright terrible, just boring, and the tracks don't suit Yela's personality really. He's already shown he make amazing songs about girls (Love Is Not Enough ffs) but these aren't among them. I miss the storytelling Yelawolf, either of the songs-about-girls variety or the Lynyrd-Skynyrd-listening-meth-dealer-way-over-his-head-variety.

Also also it seems like the predominant school of rap production on show here is generally way down the path that the duller end of post-Coldplay rock music went down years ago, this lack of attention played to any rhythmic interest in favour of a constant 4x4 plod. It's not always terrible but it means the beats just kind of slug along the floor rather than bounce - good rappers can do amazing things over the top of them but they're virtually impossible to sing over which is why you end up with choruses that just sound like stupid lazy musical platitudes.

is this gonna sell like lupe's lasers? which i imagine most of us hated. or is it a commercial AND creative bomb

i still havent heard it fwiw

It sounds pretty radio friendly to me, or what I imagine gets played on the radio as I haven't been a radio listener for ages.

internet killed the radio star tho

is the hook on animal brostep?

is this gonna sell like lupe's lasers?

how is a dude who has never had one song played on the radio gonna sell 200k

in one week?

i think you're not understanding my question

is this a 'bad pop album' in the sense that its a flop, or in the sense that ilx doesn't like it but it will sell boatloads with a normal eminem audience

im not actually saying its going to do exactly lupe's numbers (although i don't see how thats ruled out with a shady records affiliation)

trunk muzik 0-60 isn't significantly worse than its predecessor and definitely doesn't contain any "warning sign" change of directions.

this one has "marijuana" on it, right?

also yeah no one knows who yelawolf is, he is not doing 6 figures

omg dudes. we need to stop tearing each other down this is getting ridic

i'd like to come out against negativity

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxyYP_bS_6s

(although i don't see how thats ruled out with a shady records affiliation)

― Regional Thug (D-40), Friday, November 18, 2011 3:47 PM (19 minutes ago) Bookmark

for someone who pays more attention to rap than anyone i know you say some curious things sometimes

what would indicate that a yelawolf album would sell "boatloads"

trunk muzik 0-60 is a pretty good album btw they should've followed that blueprint - "marijuana" is such a dope song

what would indicate that a yelawolf album would sell "boatloads"

― yo zuccotti (J0rdan S.), Friday, November 18, 2011 3:08 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

obviously there's a strain of bland 'lyrically lyrical' rap that will sell boatloads, i.e. eminem. there's also the fact that this is obv a 'sell out' attempt, so the thing i'm trying to ascertain in asking about this record is, is this a failed crossover attempt, or is it just failed creatively.

you guys are being unnecessarily condescending chill the fuck out

second and third paragraph there are really funny side by side.

so the thing i'm trying to ascertain in asking about this record is, is this a failed crossover attempt, or is it just failed creatively.

how are these two different things? is it a failed crossover attempt? probably, idk we can all look at yelawolf's numbers and probably ascertain that. is it failed creatively? probably, i guess how much it's failed creatively is up to the listener.

"how are these two different things? "

lupe fiasco, lasers, referred to in my very first post on this particular subject

i'm curious if you guys think this has charting potential or not. this isn't a complicated question.

yes, this will likely chart but that is largely dependent on snagging some sort of single with radio play and i dunno what the single is atm
clearly he can get radio play if he really wants to; getting yr song on a WWE intro is a nice accomplishment.

clearly he can get radio play if he really wants to

hold on, what evidence is there of this

i'm curious if you guys think this has charting potential or not. this isn't a complicated question.

― Regional Thug (D-40), Friday, November 18, 2011 5:26 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark

well "charting potential" and doing lupe fiasco lasers numbers are two very different things

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8iMlDpqk2Q
Jordan, you don't think stations that play staind or limp bizkit won't give this airplay if the mountain dew drenched hoi polloi dig on it?

well "charting potential" and doing lupe fiasco lasers numbers are two very different things

― yo zuccotti (J0rdan S.), Friday, November 18, 2011 4:35 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

well, two largely overlapping things. the lupe comparison was just intended to highlight the difference between 'ilx hates this & it feels creatively bankrupt but charts anyway' vs. 'a flop any way you look at it' but keep assuming i'm just a total idiot who thinks that yelawolf will sell exactly lupe numbers if you'd like to continue bogging this thread down in entirely unnecessary sniping & general grumpiness

what a fiasco

forks what radio stations in 2011 are playing limp bizkit

haha sorry that you asked if yelawolf was going to sell 200k albums this week

no what you did was drag down the discussion in semantic point-missing & entirely fail to answer the q

xxp kroq and FMU i guess
but i guess really i mean people who would played limp bizkit in the day will not be hard to sell on this. could also become a regional thing.

like, literally the first response to my post understood what i was asking