emotional tmi

I don't feel that way at all, myself. I'd rather talk to you guys than anyone in RL. (You are the only people a know who offer sympathy, rather than coldly telling me how badly I fucked up.)

It strikes me that the embarrassment and anxiety you have about having/showing the feelings might be making them a lot more work?

xp to LL

some feelings are more embarrassing to have/show than others

my stupid ridiculous worthless pointless feelings

Ahem.

are you embarrassed about posting that post

a little bit, yes :-/

i knew it!

AMANDAAAAAA

come online

i clearly still do not feel comfortable expressing my own emotions

it's okay to not, you know! i mean if you're seething about something you should probably let it out, but you needn't be an open book.

if you are 'approachable' then ppl obviously do not perceive you as remote or emotionless.

i know!

I do not deal well with emotional disruptions to that humdrum existence.

this. which came in the form of a long email from my mom received yesterday after spending the weekend together that was this incredibly distorted picture she has of me from going through my phone/drawers when i wasn't looking. apparently i am a complete mess and failure and also badly need to hit the gym and nobody is ever going to love me "like this".

we had an awful fight about it, and she called me crying at 7 this morning apologizing, but gee, the holidays are going to be a treat.

your mother said that to you? that's horrible!

omg that is way ott

What could she POSSIBLY have found in your drawers that gives her any insight whatsoever? Don't answer that because there IS no answer. Also, THAT IS WHAT SHE GETS FOR GOING THROUGH YOUR PHONE/DRAWERS OMG why is she a spy???

she saw: condoms, vibrator, psych meds. all of which i had carefully tucked away in the back of a drawer before she visited so she wouldn't see them. never mind that I AM 32 AND ALLOWED TO HAVE ALL OF THESE THINGS.

in her distorted view of the world she thought she was being "helpful". i love her, but she is nuts, and i wish i could stop feeling smothered by her at 32. i am not even doing that badly, and i don't know why she is jumping to these conclusions about me! like for example, she said that i need to stop acting desperate because that scares men away which is like...i don't talk to her about my love life EVER and i don't know where she is getting that i act "desperate" as i am actually extremely laissez-faire in that department and "finding a man" is very low on my list of priorities in life!

i'm just really not looking forward to spending thanksgiving with her for thanksgiving. and also i have to tell my therapist today i can't see her until january because i've run out of visits on my insurance.

otoh, you are 32 and are allowed to not have to spend thanksgiving with emotionally damaged family members.

that's true, but it would also stop me from seeing the family members i DO like, and that is kind of not worth it :/

shouldn't i have irl friends . . . to talk to about my stupid ridiculous worthless pointless feelings?

You do, FYI. xoxo

:/ otm

bugger. just saw this thread. hugs to you all, from another person who feels the same damn way.

there were several years where almost every significant conversation w/my mom involved her asking me some variant of "when are you going to get a real job?" And eventually it got to the point where I would say, "if we're going to get on that topic again, this conversation is over." or, if it was in person, i would say that i was going to go home. And it took a bit of that (maybe a year's worth) for her to approach the issue in a more respectful manner.

fuck the holidays

so glad to not be going anywhere for holidays (force me to make solid plans jenny!)

parents can come here if they want to see me

geez, the Occupy movement is a major blessing in the family holiday relations department. We can discuss and argue politics rather than facing embarrassing and vaguely humiliating questions about personal life stuff.

allowed to not have to spend thanksgiving with emotionally damaged family members

if this were true thanksgiving wouldn't exist

nah, my family is pretty un-emotionally damaged ... they are just well-meaningly nosey.

lol POLITICS is the like the last thing i want to talk about instead of my personal life with family xp

it's kinda lol actually, because my mom and my cousins' moms will do pre-emptive damage control with the other relatives, like, "don't ask (cousin A) about (personal topic x), it is still a very sensitive subject!"

And eventually it got to the point where I would say, "if we're going to get on that topic again, this conversation is over." or, if it was in person, i would say that i was going to go home.

This is what I did about the "Why haven't you found a church to join?/Your life will never work out until you give it to God in prayer" conversation.

i've been on the up-and-down rollercoaster pretty much my whole life. (what has been helping me lately with that is running.) anyway, i got emotionally tmi and dramatic with my boyfriend last weekend. then we worked some stuff out. then this morning he got up before me and made me breakfast. <3 ;_; <3

so glad to not be going anywhere for holidays (force me to make solid plans jenny!)

Hmmmm what did you have in mind? How about Christkindlmarket then ice skating in Millennium Park? (I might just watch you skate.)

^^^jealous

Oh man - Chicago has a Christkindlmarket???

jenny, we can take this off thread! i would love to go ice skating, though!!!!

what has been helping me lately with that is running.
oooootttttmmmm
it's like boom boom boom boom step step step step trampling on the bad feelings

lol POLITICS is the like the last thing i want to talk about instead of my personal life with family xp

God yes. My parents are Tea Partiers/53%ers so there is no "discussing" politics. Just right wing talking points shouted at high volume and me getting drunk in self defense.

my grandfather (RIP) was a politician for 13 years; politics was inescapable.

i have a lot to say about that ^^ topic but it's not really appropriate to talk about on public forum

not to be all cryptic or w/e -- sorry

i have one aunt who is a recent Glenn Beck convert, an uncle who's a lawyer, and another aunt who is a fervent Kucinich/Green Party supporter. it can be quite lively.

Oh and 97% of my extended family are racists. So yeah fun times. I'll talk about my personal life all ding dong day.

How do you convert to following Glen Beck? Concussion?

Struck by lightning iirc

a career in hospital administration?

i really have no idea. i'm just glad she's not my mom.

though the thanksgiving they argued about "Obamacare," i was at the other table with my cousins talking about our miserable break ups, so ...

pearls of wisdom from the thanksgiving dinner table

everyone should come to chicago for the holidays and we will all go ice skating together
no one will insult you or your lifestyle
no one will talk to you about glenn beck

also: no one will ask you when you are getting a real job

sounds tempting!

I will take you for the best Polish borscht ever.