Dublin

The Natural History Museum (aka the Dead Animal Zoo) is open again, huzzah.

Yeah, the Chester Beatty is a gem. I wuv the cafe there.

Mr Kappa - Guinness Storehouse is a huge building and you get a great view of Dublin from the top. I've never done the tour but I was there for an event once. If you like views and industrial architecture it is worth visiting. If you were living the tourist dream you could do it as the first part of a triple header followed by the Irish Museum of Modern Art (in the olde Royal Hospital Kilmainham) and Kilmainham Gaol (where our dead patriots were killed by the evil foreigner).

Chester Beatty library is stunning. So much interesting stuff.

The Kilmainham tour is definitely worth doing as well.

i'm djing at mother in copper alley on saturday btw...dubliners.

The gaol tour was worth doing. It's the prison from The Italian Job! The storehouse was pretty shite though, interesting how they set it up, but the whole thing was just a giant advert. Decent view but it was already dark. The screens where you can watch the vintage Guinness TV ads were good though.

I think a lot of film scenes were done in Kilmainham, probably because it is one of few oldschool jail-like buildings that are not in use as a jail.

mmm, slightly less films than I thought, but they include THE FACE OF FU MANCHU: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kilmainham_Jail#Films

BAH! I always forget to put links on a separate line, as a way of avoiding the horror that is Full Justification.

I think a lot of film scenes were done in Kilmainham, probably because it is one of few oldschool jail-like buildings that are not in use as a jail.

The reason is that the guys wanting to restore the gaol had no money and hiring it out to film crews was the only way they could raise the cash!

dmac in dublin is 'a thing'

aside from becoming an urbanite wretch of the highest and totally selling out my heretofore begrudging stony grey soil of mayo disavowal of all things east of tarmonbarry, i'm quite looking fwd to a few years amongst the enemy.

Aside from evening courses, five a side at ucd, boardsdeals-funded meals out, long and brisk walks around muggers and heroin-users along the canal, and three hours on the 16a from the centre to terenure, any clues from the locals as to what to expect?

Bear in mind that i'm in the bottom 5% of ilxors as rated by culture, though as to whether that's been environmentally-stymied thus far or not is open to (short and bad-natured) debate.

You are staying out in Terenure? Noice.

when i burn my bridges i nuke em

terenure/rathgar is, indeed, noice, but it is, unfortunately, temporary.

Is daft.ie the best way to find accommodation, or should we register with a few agencies? Bear in mind that we're not going to be able to come up with much in the way of references, having lived 'at home' for the past few years.

Any clues/advice as to area? Kilmainham/inchicore seem like a winner in terms of the price/transport/decent accommodation available balance.

I can get to work from anywhere but ms mac is stuck out at eastpoint (near clontarf) which is a bit of a pain.

Daft does the job I think. How about Stoneybatter? Near the Luas and stuff.

I'd say you'd be able to get somewhere with a garden etc. in Kilmainham/Inchicore for a similar price to what you'd pay for something pokier in Stoneybatter. But if you like hipster street parties and the like then go for it. I live in Drimnagh, so i can vouch for that end of town but i rent from a friend so i never ran into any problems with references or anything.

do i come across as hipster street party guy? i must be doin somethin wrong

thought that might be a red flag

Despite the supposed hipster cachet over here in D7, there were a posse of mucksavages knocking a sliothar about at the bottom of my street today, so you'd probably fit right in.

new rule- if you can't spell it you don't get to complain about it

dublin what's good

recommended things to do & places to eat? there first weekend in august

1. Find a nice pub (lots of suggestions upthread)
2. Have a Guinness
3. Go to step 2

otm, all of the pubs upthread well worthy of your time. Whereabouts you stayin

I'd suggest fap but i'm in kinsale that w/end

I have a weird relationship with Dublin but sometimes I fall so hard for the city all over again.

if you want hipster food go to bear or crackbird, google away. if you want guinness go to keogh's on south anne street. if you want music i'd say maybe twisted pepper (good lineups but venue is okayish at best) or bernard shaw (loads of children but a decent pub with good beers relative to dublin in general)

not sure about good high end restaurants, it's been too long for me and my friends don't seem to know. winding stair was the last one that people rated and still seem to.

some of my recs may be out of date, don't live there.

hang on, i think cozen likes craft beer, if so "against the grain" is dublin's craft beer bar, and in a fairly vibrant part.

i am ready to be told i don't have a clue tho, the longer i live away, the more i tend to spend my weekends home in suburbia cos i enjoy how totally different from london it is.

Also good for interesting beer is Mulligans in Stoneybatter (where I spent most of today)

otm, sean, very good spot

tbh, dublin's not short of quality pubs for beer, ambience or grub. you'd be grand pretty much anywhere.

What kind of things do you like, Cozen?

Some cultural/historical things to consider:
- Kilmainham Jail (where the Brit bastards killed our independence heroes)
- Chester Beatty Library (fascinating boutique museum of orientalist stuff bequeathed to the state by rich collector guy)
- National Museum on Kildare Street (you want bog bodies, we got bog bodies; also things made of gold and an Egyptian mummy, stuff, etc.)
- Literary Pub Crawl (out of work actors tell you literary anecdotes and bring you to pubs)
- 1916 Rising Walking Tour (you get brought around to sites of exciting uprising action)

My pub recommendations:
- Lord Edward (old school; make sure you go to the upstairs lounge; if in the mood for expensive fish food try their restaurant on 2nd Floor)
- The Brazen Head (popular with tourists, though don't let that put you off. Also, you are a tourist. And it does really nice Guinness and is official oldest pub in Dublin)
- Palace in Fleet Street (not to be confused with Palace on Camden Street, a hellhole; Palace on Fleet Street is appealing old school pub with literary connections but is always full)

I think I will be in London that weekend so no fappage from me, sadly.

I'd back all of those.

National Gallery & the National Museum at Collins Barracks are definitely worth a look too.

The Black Sheep on Capel Street is less smelly new location of Against The Grain crew.
+1 for Chester Beatty.
I am not great at restaurants but if you're looking for decent but not OTT try Winding Stair. Great view if you can get by a window.

hi gelligt

Hi DMac, didn't realise you'd moved up. Story?

As an aside for tourist spot suggestions I was in Glasnevin today for the first time. Very interesting even if you're not Irish.

Great things about Dublin:
1) You can meet groups of friends out all round town that are a walk to get to rather than a bus/train/taxi ride away.
2) The quirkiness is coming back that had been a bit drowned out for few years.
3) The Screen, The Lighthouse & The IFI.
4) The parks. Especially Phoenix Park.
5) View from Capel Street down towards Parliament Street.
6) The increase in non-Diageo beers in more and more pubs.
7) Dead zoo (even if you can't go upstairs into the galleries).

Bad things:

1) There are none. Haters be hating.

Lies obviously. Dublin bus (even with the new app), actually just the public transport in general is pretty poor. Run down buildings that have only been around for 10 years. The abandoned Anglo Irish building.

thanks everyone - this is more than enough to be getting on with

The Black Sheep on Capel Street is less smelly new location of Against The Grain crew.

this sounds good, fuck going way southside for a drink when i have to get the 42 from my parents' place covertly drinking a can lest i get beheaded or whatever the current sentence in ireland for peacefully drinking a cannister of liquid which contains alcohol as opposed to a cannister of liquid which doesn't is.

northside till i die.

major re-evaluation goin on here

what do you mean? (genuine question...)

no wait, you're from malahide or somewhere iirc?

Spiritually southside imo

Xp lol just that yr a southsider in my head

i'm probly gonna be living in clontarf this time next week, so it's not like i can talk tbf....

i can't claim any northside cred at all yeah, though i do think even malahide or howth, posh as they are, breeds a diff type of person to actual southside. posh southside has a more urban insular quality, malahide is a bit of a backwater, county dublin etc.

i did go to belvedere tho so there you go. yet again, a sort of difference from its southside counterparts but kinda the same.

what does fucking infuriate me is a few years in london of nobody understanding my voice on the phone has given me a nasal voice that suddenly makes any irish person think i'm from blackrock. this never happened until the last year or two. not that i had a huge north accent before but it's defo a swing based on having had to work in bbc.

heh do you sound like wogan, i wonder

I've started hypercorrecting my r's after years of English people going "or what?" and I kind of hate myself for it. Not that Greystones ever gave me a credible accent in the first place but still.

oo-er misses /frankiehowerd

heh do you sound like wogan, i wonder

my entire family are from limerick too, it's a similar fusion.

that's why you love that youtube selecta so much i guess....

i have been speaking in phrases from it for months, with many people i know bruv.

it's always mememe with u ppl

Well if you're darting it to Malahide they have another place near Connolly. Or is that the one on Dorset Street? They've kind of done a Porterhouse on it.

I agree with DMac, Howth is spiritually Southside. Sutton as well.

I too shall move soon to leafy Northside. Also Clontarf area. This is all most strange.

Has there been a Dublin FAP recently or was the one a few years ago the last one?

Dare it even be suggested? Is this the most passive aggressive FAP suggestion of all time? I don't care, not bothered, etc.

Oh yeah DV spot on re. Lord Edward. I also like Bull & Castle for draught Metalman.

Spiritually southside imo

Malahide... the South Side's West Berlin.

i'm probly gonna be living in clontarf this time next week, so it's not like i can talk tbf....

Just a short walk away from Barcode... RAPPEH, and an excuse to post this link again:http://www.dublinpubscene.com/thepubs/barcode.html

Goddamn full justification.

Well if you're darting it to Malahide they have another place near Connolly.

yeah, people keep saying it is good. But I am developing a slight reaction against the AtG/Black Sheep/OtherOne empire - the beer might be nice, but some of Dublin's oldschool pubs are nicer.