DEM not gonna CON dis NATION: Rolling UK politics in the short-lived post-Murdoch era

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The first show I saw Paul Ross presenting was one of those "Police 5"/"Crimewatch" type shows. The first part was the usual (and reasonable) "do you recognise this lad breaking into a granny's house" type stuff.

Part two were freeze-frames of the anti-polltax demonstration and "If you know this girl, ring Westminster police on ..."

At that point, I decided I did not like Paul Ross.

Funnily enough, nothing he's done has been good enough to revise that opinion (his bro J has at least done the occasional interesting thing)..

Mark G, Tuesday, 15 November 2011 11:47 (twelve years ago) link

Can't wait for Dave's impression of Goodluck Jonathan.

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 14:31 (twelve years ago) link

Ed Miliband will call for "more responsible capitalism", amid mounting fears of a double-dip recession and record youth unemployment.

He will follow this up with a call for "less ugly politicians" and "dryer water".

Ridin' Skyrims (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 17 November 2011 08:41 (twelve years ago) link

"bankers and protestors should shake hands. that would verse them well in compassion"

Here he is with the classic "Poème Électronique." Good track (Marcello Carlin), Thursday, 17 November 2011 10:54 (twelve years ago) link

Young jobseekers told to work without pay or lose unemployment benefits

Like someone said on FB: "Cunts" is the word.

Glo-Vember (dog latin), Thursday, 17 November 2011 12:02 (twelve years ago) link

The first show I saw Paul Ross presenting was one of those "Police 5"/"Crimewatch" type shows

Me too! and he did it so badly that for the first 5-10 minutes I was convinced it was a *spoof* of a "Police 5"/"Crimewatch" type show.

Grandpont Genie, Thursday, 17 November 2011 12:40 (twelve years ago) link

At last my crappy star spotting comes in handy - I once saw Paul Ross and his lovely wife sharing a table with Laurence Llewelyn-Bowen and his lovely wife at now defunct London eaterie Mash. I could him from the cheap seats.

Ned Trifle X, Thursday, 17 November 2011 12:47 (twelve years ago) link

you never him

grandpa aaron knows how to live (onimo), Thursday, 17 November 2011 12:57 (twelve years ago) link

Young jobseekers told to work without pay or lose unemployment benefits

Like someone said on FB: "Cunts" is the word.

Corvee labour.

Fizzles the Chimp (GamalielRatsey), Thursday, 17 November 2011 13:25 (twelve years ago) link

It's eighties work experience back again. Doesn't begin to replace apprenticeships but it's not exactly Indonesia.

Here he is with the classic "Poème Électronique." Good track (Marcello Carlin), Thursday, 17 November 2011 13:42 (twelve years ago) link

think they pay people in indonesia tbf

Ridin' Skyrims (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 17 November 2011 13:45 (twelve years ago) link

tbf they already 'offered' this in pre-coalition days if you were unfortunate enough to be young and six months on JSA, with the alternative being sitting an office 9-5, five days a week, with absolutely nothing to do (hey guys spend the next three hours doing job searches!).

sunn :o))) (Merdeyeux), Thursday, 17 November 2011 13:47 (twelve years ago) link

i say tbf, but fuck em rly the cunts.

sunn :o))) (Merdeyeux), Thursday, 17 November 2011 13:47 (twelve years ago) link

I can't believe that pledging to lay off half a million public sector workers would damage the economy. Who saw that coming?????

Matt DC, Thursday, 17 November 2011 13:50 (twelve years ago) link

it's funny cos i can do a job search in about 30 mins from home and guess what? there's fuck all jobs

Ridin' Skyrims (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 17 November 2011 13:55 (twelve years ago) link

Because your local supermarket is full of kids working for free?

Matt DC, Thursday, 17 November 2011 13:55 (twelve years ago) link

Like I know working in Asda isn't exactly anyone's dream but some people have to and what incentive is there for them to employ anyone else when there's a massive supply of kids being frogmarched in to work for free?

Matt DC, Thursday, 17 November 2011 13:57 (twelve years ago) link

Also there's a lot of speculation out there that Osborne is about to put his hands up and admit they won't eliminate the deficit this parliament AND some reports that they're going to end up borrowing more than Labour. Pretty sure that would just amount to an admission of incompetence and/or idiotic intransigence but that they'll get through it all by blaming the Euro.

Matt DC, Thursday, 17 November 2011 14:01 (twelve years ago) link

and the last government

Ridin' Skyrims (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 17 November 2011 14:09 (twelve years ago) link

This has been doing the rounds on Twitter etc., but it's definitely worth a read if you haven't already done so:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2011/nov/16/why-britain-doesnt-make-things-manufacturing

good luck in your pyramid (Neil S), Thursday, 17 November 2011 14:38 (twelve years ago) link

Good article, I look forward to the radio 3 talk. Also a bonus for a good slagging of Richard FLorida, that guy is a fucknugget of the highest order who has had far too much influence on US/UK economic policy with his shonky research.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Thursday, 17 November 2011 15:55 (twelve years ago) link

The odd thing is that all this techno-utopianism came from men who would struggle to order a book off Amazon. Alistair Campbell tells a story about how Blair got his first-ever mobile phone after stepping down as prime minister in 2007. His first text to Campbell read: "This is amazing, you can send words on a phone."

But indeed, good article. Florida being Cameron's 'guru' is so wrong. This: But what really stuck out was how Florida fenced off creative work. You were either a knowledge worker or a factory worker – as if the other stuff didn't require brains. is so so so otm.

I certainly wouldn't have, but hey. (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 17 November 2011 16:38 (twelve years ago) link

It also chimes with the position of Iain Duncan Smith, the work and pensions secretary. In July he appeared to echo Gordon Brown's infamous plea for "British jobs for British workers" but has since said that he rejects that in favour of a policy of "getting British workers ready for British jobs".

The Triumph of the Will High (nakhchivan), Saturday, 19 November 2011 00:37 (twelve years ago) link

http://files.list.co.uk/images/w/godot.jpg

sunn :o))) (Merdeyeux), Saturday, 19 November 2011 00:44 (twelve years ago) link

how come you haven't used the nemanja vidic ~song~

he comes from serbia, he'll fuckin

as a display name?

The Triumph of the Will High (nakhchivan), Saturday, 19 November 2011 01:05 (twelve years ago) link

a poor ear for a good bad pun.

sunn :o))) (Merdeyeux), Saturday, 19 November 2011 01:36 (twelve years ago) link

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A Conservative MP has suggested that caps should be put on benefits paid for children in workless households.

http://i.imgur.com/7fOTQ.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/7fOTQ.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/7fOTQ.jpg

In an article for ConservativeHome, backbench MP Harriett Baldwin proposed that unemployed families get child tax credits for no more than four children.

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If those who are in a workless household were told that they would not receive additional benefits for any new babies until such time as the household has a wage-earner, work incentives would be stronger.

The Triumph of the Will High (nakhchivan), Saturday, 19 November 2011 02:27 (twelve years ago) link

one month passes...

what to bump, what to bump

stet, Thursday, 22 December 2011 21:57 (twelve years ago) link

hm

what your teeth reveal about satan (brownie), Thursday, 22 December 2011 21:59 (twelve years ago) link

Not politics but...

Stephen Lawrence verdict: Dobson and Norris guilty of racist murder
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/jan/03/stephen-lawrence-verdict-guilty-murder

hickory always flavours the wieners (NickB), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 14:55 (twelve years ago) link

In a bid to exercise new regulations to curb "the commercialisation and sexualisation" of childhood, Prime Minister David Cameron has suggested that music videos should perhaps come with age ratings.

This proposal comes in addition to suggestions from Cameron that include banning sexualised images in public advertising and covering up explicit magazine displays. The issues are set to be discussed imminently with retailers and advertisers in the hope of agreeing a new nationwide code of conduct that may be introduced for businesses.

Cameron also wants to stop under-16-year-olds becoming "brand ambassadors" in "peer to peer" marketing campaigns for toys and other goods.

The plans were revealed in a pre-Christmas letter from Children's Minister Sarah Teather to industry figures, seen by the Daily Telegraph, inviting them to meet with Mr. Cameron early this year.

Artists such as Rihanna and Lady Gaga have been criticised for the content of their videos that has been deemed unsuitable for children as well as some outdoor advertising campaigns related to some of their records.

http://www.musicweek.com/story.asp?sectioncode=1&storycode=1047985

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 11:12 (twelve years ago) link

"Cameron also wants to stop under-16-year-olds becoming "brand ambassadors" in "peer to peer" marketing campaigns for toys and other goods."

this seems like a good idea tbh.

the 'age ratings' stuff is ridiculous though - doesn't cameron have children? doesn't he realise that putting "13+" on something is practically a way of guaranteeing that 11-year-olds desperately want to see it?

vision creation newgod (c sharp major), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 12:16 (twelve years ago) link

i can see a point about something like "S & M" not being played out on daytime radio but hey, simple solution to the rest, ban advertising.

Nogood (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 13:06 (twelve years ago) link

"brand ambassadors" in "peer to peer" marketing campaigns for toys and other goods."

Is this like when I go round a friends house and they've got an AT-AT and I want one and I go home and pester my parents to buy one but they don't. Stupid parents.

get ready for the banter (NotEnough), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 15:33 (twelve years ago) link

I notice how they're not falling back on the smug "unless we can get it to work globally it won't work" line here.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 15:40 (twelve years ago) link

broadcasting is one of the few areas where the gov can still exert a good degree of control against global forces i'd've thought

Nogood (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 15:44 (twelve years ago) link

The fuss about Diane Abbott sort of proves what she said, right?

James Mitchell, Thursday, 5 January 2012 11:22 (twelve years ago) link

Nadhim Zahawi seems to be the only public figure being a dick about this so I dunno.

the white plies (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 5 January 2012 11:25 (twelve years ago) link

ok Clegg too, jesus. seems like such an innocuous discussion of tactics/representation when u read it back but then maybe i lack sufficient pride in my race than to get all lynch-y about it

the white plies (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 5 January 2012 11:30 (twelve years ago) link

getting really tired of watching the Great British public and its lol leaders trying to work out what racism is like puzzled 4 year-olds now tho

the white plies (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 5 January 2012 11:31 (twelve years ago) link

The Torygraph calls it a “gaffe” (i.e. “saying what you actually think”).

In the end though it’s nothing to do with any race debate and everything to do with pitiful parliamentary points-scoring.

Here he is with the classic "Poème Électronique." Good track (Marcello Carlin), Thursday, 5 January 2012 11:34 (twelve years ago) link

Can't think why apartheid supporter and friend of the BNP Paul Staines keeps trying to stitch up a black woman.

James Mitchell, Thursday, 5 January 2012 11:40 (twelve years ago) link

@SophyRidgeSky Sophy Ridge
Labour spokesman:"we disagree with Diane's tweet. It is wrong to make any generalisations about any race creed or colour....
17 minutes ago via Twitter for iPhone

@SophyRidgeSky Sophy Ridge
Ctd "The Labour party has always campaigned against such behaviour - and so has Diane Abbott"
16 minutes ago via Twitter for iPhone

THANKS FOR THAT YOU USELESS, PUSILLANIMOUS CUNTS

all i see is angels in my eyes (lex pretend), Thursday, 5 January 2012 11:45 (twelve years ago) link

it's a disgrace any time the BBC even acknowledges Paul Staines' existence to be honest

the white plies (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 5 January 2012 11:50 (twelve years ago) link

@SophyRidgeSky Sophy Ridge
I hear person Diane Abbott interrupted Sky interview for was call from Ed Miliband -who gave her "severe dressing down"and told to apologise
4 minutes ago via Twitter for iPhone

ffffffffffffffffs

all i see is angels in my eyes (lex pretend), Thursday, 5 January 2012 11:51 (twelve years ago) link

Tory MP Nadhim Zahawi says Labour leader Ed Miliband should sack her for "inciting hatred against white people".

As a white person I admit I am scared of the intense hatred Ms. Abbot's remarks as bound to cause

Tom D (Tom D.), Thursday, 5 January 2012 11:53 (twelve years ago) link

she broke the first rule of Dead Labour - don't wind up the Daily Mail

the white plies (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 5 January 2012 11:53 (twelve years ago) link

I was going to say "let's have a riot" but you can go to prison for saying that these days (vote Liberal Democrat)

Tom D (Tom D.), Thursday, 5 January 2012 11:54 (twelve years ago) link

What the fuck has Diane Abbott got to apologise for?

It's the Labour Party who should apologise for being such spineless aspie COWARDS 'cos they're frightened Mr & Mrs Hitler of Dachau Avenue, Little Spitting, won't vote for them next time.

fucking useless Ed Milliband, grow some BALLS you fucking nonce.

Here he is with the classic "Poème Électronique." Good track (Marcello Carlin), Thursday, 5 January 2012 12:26 (twelve years ago) link


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