Anyone else think that Lou looks like a withered version of ... Jason Newstead?
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 15 November 2011 02:04 (twelve years ago) link
^^ not very flattering for poor Jase, but at least you qualified that with "withered".
― charlie h, Tuesday, 15 November 2011 02:06 (twelve years ago) link
did you guys hear about the doug yule/anthrax collaboration?
― LaMonte, Tuesday, 15 November 2011 02:14 (twelve years ago) link
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lsloegANO31qht9b0o1_500.jpg
― markers, Tuesday, 15 November 2011 21:56 (twelve years ago) link
AHHH LOVE THAT
― maura, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 04:11 (twelve years ago) link
Mike Patton has some things to say:
I'm wondering, in view of the Lou Reed and Metallica record coming out...MP: Oh man, how was it?I'm glad there are records in the world like it.MP: You know, it's funny you mention that, because today I'm meant to give a quote about the record. I haven't heard the record but the New York Times is doing a big piece on the cultural significance of a record like that... It's an interesting idea... what they're asking is: 'Is it worth it for an artist to take risks like this when there's going to be a huge backlash?' And they asked me. My first reaction was 'no comment'. I haven't heard the record, I'm not going to start talking out of my breeches here. But the 'idea' of a record like that I think is amazing. I think it's great. Why can't a fucking platinum-selling band work with an experimental pioneer? Why not?It's good to hear a band outside of their comfort zone. They're Lou's bitches.MP: Well, I've heard some stories, ha ha. I'll just leave it at that. The idea of it, conceptually, I'm all for it.Now Lulu was based on two plays by Frank Wedekind. I'd ask Lou himself but I interviewed him once and it wasn't a very pleasant experience and I wouldn't want to go through that again...MP: HA HA HA! He's a sweetheart too. He has his moments, as do all of us.I thought he'd open up to me, I'm not like all the others.MP: Nah, you don't break Lou. Just catch him on a good day. I love the guy, I really do. He's been super super sweet with me. I played with him and (John) Zorn once and he was really fun, and super super nice, and sweet and supportive. Yeah, I'd go to bat for him any day.I think it's just journalists he doesn't like.MP: Well you know, can you forgive him? Can you blame him?
MP: Oh man, how was it?
I'm glad there are records in the world like it.
MP: You know, it's funny you mention that, because today I'm meant to give a quote about the record. I haven't heard the record but the New York Times is doing a big piece on the cultural significance of a record like that... It's an interesting idea... what they're asking is: 'Is it worth it for an artist to take risks like this when there's going to be a huge backlash?' And they asked me. My first reaction was 'no comment'. I haven't heard the record, I'm not going to start talking out of my breeches here. But the 'idea' of a record like that I think is amazing. I think it's great. Why can't a fucking platinum-selling band work with an experimental pioneer? Why not?
It's good to hear a band outside of their comfort zone. They're Lou's bitches.
MP: Well, I've heard some stories, ha ha. I'll just leave it at that. The idea of it, conceptually, I'm all for it.
Now Lulu was based on two plays by Frank Wedekind. I'd ask Lou himself but I interviewed him once and it wasn't a very pleasant experience and I wouldn't want to go through that again...
MP: HA HA HA! He's a sweetheart too. He has his moments, as do all of us.
I thought he'd open up to me, I'm not like all the others.
MP: Nah, you don't break Lou. Just catch him on a good day. I love the guy, I really do. He's been super super sweet with me. I played with him and (John) Zorn once and he was really fun, and super super nice, and sweet and supportive. Yeah, I'd go to bat for him any day.
I think it's just journalists he doesn't like.
MP: Well you know, can you forgive him? Can you blame him?
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 17:41 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2011/11/metallica-and-lou-reeds-lulu-is-actually-excellent/248574/
― ⚓ (gr8080), Wednesday, 16 November 2011 19:04 (twelve years ago) link
Seriously!
― markers, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 19:08 (twelve years ago) link
Meanwhile RIP Lulu:
LouTallica completely fell off the Billboard 200 this week. That means sales of less than about 3,000 in week 2.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 19:45 (twelve years ago) link
Lou—vinegary, unsteady-sounding—cries, "C'mon James!" In other words: Help me, Metallica! Give me the power I need to do this!
― ⚓ (gr8080), Wednesday, 16 November 2011 19:49 (twelve years ago) link
the atlantic gets it
― the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 16 November 2011 19:58 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.lpassociation.com/forums/smilies/headbang.gifHelp me, Metallica! Give me the power I need to do this! http://www.lpassociation.com/forums/smilies/headbang.gif
― ⚓ (gr8080), Wednesday, 16 November 2011 20:17 (twelve years ago) link
That's a little prayer I say to myself every morning.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 20:18 (twelve years ago) link
Gotta pick up a few copies to sell on eBay someday.
― Love stream of mic checking (Eazy), Wednesday, 16 November 2011 20:32 (twelve years ago) link
Every year Warner Music has a big product sell-off for employees, the proceeds from which go to charity. I went this year and picked up the 3CD/1DVD Jane's Addiction box and the mammoth Neil Young Archives 10DVD thing; the latter cost me $40. I predict there will be a large stack of the fancy comes-in-a-tube edition of Lulu next year, probably for about $5 a pop.
― that's not funny. (unperson), Wednesday, 16 November 2011 21:07 (twelve years ago) link
I AM THE TUBE! I AM THE REMAINDER!
― Sean Carruthers, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 21:42 (twelve years ago) link
Has anyone made a comparison between this and Alban Berg's Opera in reviews?
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 21:42 (twelve years ago) link
None of the press releases mentioned Alban Berg, so no.
― that's not funny. (unperson), Wednesday, 16 November 2011 22:18 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.movieline.com/2011/11/wim-wenders-on-until-the-end-of-the-world-at-20-its-amazing-soundtrack-and-loving-lulu.php
Wim Wenders gets it
― the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 17 November 2011 03:56 (twelve years ago) link
Wim Wenders is the table
― m0stlyClean, Thursday, 17 November 2011 04:22 (twelve years ago) link
If only there had been liner notes by Robert Wilson explaining the whole thing to Metallica fans, there would be peace in the valley.
― Love stream of mic checking (Eazy), Thursday, 17 November 2011 04:34 (twelve years ago) link
http://media.heavy.com/media/2011/11/lou_reed_metallica_lulu.jpghttp://a0.twimg.com/profile_images/1376768928/TwitterPic4Web.jpg
― buzza, Thursday, 17 November 2011 09:12 (twelve years ago) link
pomploumoose
― buzza, Thursday, 17 November 2011 09:14 (twelve years ago) link
SPERMLESS LIKE POMPLAMOOSE
― Jamie_ATP, Thursday, 17 November 2011 11:27 (twelve years ago) link
WAGGLING MY ASS LIKE A DARK POMPLAMOOSE
― m0stlyClean, Thursday, 17 November 2011 20:27 (twelve years ago) link
eggplants don't have asses
― The Uncanny Frankie Valley (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 17 November 2011 20:29 (twelve years ago) link
lulu mannequin's eyes are positively soulful compared to pomplalady
― tylerw, Thursday, 17 November 2011 20:30 (twelve years ago) link
IT'S SAD, IT WAS JUNIOR DAD
― markers, Thursday, 17 November 2011 20:33 (twelve years ago) link
Thread from 1983: So who IS that insufferable indie dude in the new Honda scooter TV ads?www.youtube.com/watch?v=iK6y9_0gsEg
― tylerw, Thursday, 17 November 2011 20:34 (twelve years ago) link
i like this album a lot, i'm still listening to it quite a bit
― the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 17 November 2011 21:44 (twelve years ago) link
Metallica & Lou Reed - Lulu
This week: #149Last week: #34Weeks on chart: 2Sales this week: 3,150Cume: 16,470
― Confounded, Saturday, 19 November 2011 23:49 (twelve years ago) link
Waggle my ass like a dog prostitute coagulating heart...pumping blood...c'mon James!
― Jean-Luc Gohard (some dude), Saturday, 14 January 2012 01:33 (twelve years ago) link
I blame napster
― iatee, Saturday, 14 January 2012 01:42 (twelve years ago) link
Shush, Lars!
― Mark G, Saturday, 14 January 2012 11:47 (twelve years ago) link
lOuTaLLica! http://blogs.villagevoice.com/music/2012/01/lou_reed_metallica_lulu_pazz_and_jop.php
― tylerw, Friday, 20 January 2012 19:06 (twelve years ago) link
the truth hurts
― the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 20 January 2012 19:07 (twelve years ago) link
"the songs are made from a kind of vertical integration where the players communicate through each other to a perceived bottom layer"
― SongOfSam, Friday, 20 January 2012 19:13 (twelve years ago) link
awesome write-up, Brad, i am proud to stand as one of the 9 Lulu voters in P&J
― @51TimesNo (some dude), Friday, 20 January 2012 19:34 (twelve years ago) link
yeah that was a great piece brad
― the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 20 January 2012 19:35 (twelve years ago) link
the album is really deeply enjoyable to me on so many levels i haven't processed yet that i just hope i'll be able to fully articulate it in 2020 when i'm explaining why this is my Xth favorite album of the decade.
― @51TimesNo (some dude), Friday, 20 January 2012 19:37 (twelve years ago) link
yeah the problem is that i still can't process my enjoyment of this record so i made fun of lars
― Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Friday, 20 January 2012 19:46 (twelve years ago) link
anyway thank you dudes
the SUPREME VIOLATION SUPREME VIOLATION part always gets me
― the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 20 January 2012 19:48 (twelve years ago) link
fun thing is i wrote this last night and now i'm not sure what it means, which is in keeping with the record imo
― Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Friday, 20 January 2012 19:51 (twelve years ago) link
yes, great piece! i'm glad that there's some actual serious thought being put into it. it's a motherfucker of a record, and i think you nailed why. the improv aspect of lulu is fascinating, and i think could (should?) be a model for other rock bands. like, the whole of some kind of monster is about the band being totally incapable of dealing with each other -- and here they are on lulu totally dealing with each other in this scary, liberating way. it'd be rad if like zz top made a record like this -- not content wise, of course, just going for a purity of sound, a maelstrom of energy. i can't say that lulu's a "masterpiece" but it sure as hell is something.
― tylerw, Friday, 20 January 2012 19:52 (twelve years ago) link
when james sings "iced honey" i like to pretend he's saying "i'm stuntin'"
― @51TimesNo (some dude), Friday, 20 January 2012 19:54 (twelve years ago) link
yeah on "some kind of monster" they seem kind of lost as to how to operate as people in a band together
bringing in lou, it's going to be lou's thing, lou will be in charge...it was probably kind of liberating, plus the scattershot way it sounds like lou worked on the thing was totally the opposite of what you say in some kind of monster
― the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 20 January 2012 19:55 (twelve years ago) link
in the original draft i wrote about st anger a lot and how it is interesting in that it is the product of four people who cannot make a record together
also bob rock's description of st anger as "dudes just playing in a garage together" totally applies to lulu and does not apply to st anger at all
― Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Friday, 20 January 2012 20:02 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, the documentary makes it look as though making a metallica album is one of the HARDEST THINGS EVER.
along the same lines, i was reading an interview with pete townshend about how long it took to record some of the Who's albums, and I thought: i would love if there was just an hour's worth of townshend/entwistle/moon improvving in the studio with zero prep.
― tylerw, Friday, 20 January 2012 20:09 (twelve years ago) link
― Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Friday, January 20, 2012 2:02 PM (21 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
wah? the movie showed them C&Ping riffs together in protools to construct songs! bob rock is such a chooch
― the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 20 January 2012 20:25 (twelve years ago) link