the one we used to do was called 250, basically you built a 250 card deck w/ at least 20 of each color, plus you played for ante (had to be a rare though), and could play Contract from Below which made it really fun - was such a great casual format and bascially all that was played at the store I went to for years - then the rules "committee" massively fucked it up, restricting Contract, then banning it, then not restricting or banning cards that were killing the format (mostly b/c most of them didn't even play anymore), then completely changing the rules, and now nobody plays it - meanwhile Commander got a ton of support officially, kinda makes me wonder how big 250 could have been at it been managed even remotely properly
― frogbs, Saturday, 12 November 2011 14:57 (twelve years ago) link
ok http://www.wunderland.com/WTS/Andy/ProjectEBAY/MagicCards.html these prices are so retarded omg― El Tomboto, Tuesday, October 23, 2007 4:06 PM (4 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalinkpeople should all be blown up― El Tomboto, Tuesday, October 23, 2007 4:06 PM (4 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― El Tomboto, Tuesday, October 23, 2007 4:06 PM (4 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalinkpeople should all be blown up
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should see how high they are now! (would guess all of them have doubled in price since)
― frogbs, Saturday, 12 November 2011 14:59 (twelve years ago) link
lol you play magic as well as poker - ?
are people who pay that sort of money for magic cards people who are playing at a high enough level to be making bank off of it, or at least people who are close enough to delude themselves of same? or are they like IT professionals who don't know how to spend money
― thomp, Saturday, 12 November 2011 15:12 (twelve years ago) link
its some from both columns, I guess the one defensible thing about it is that they are almost like stock, and I don't think the prices have ever dropped - as time goes on they only get more rare, the only way they'll take a big fall is if the game dies out, which IMO is really not happening anytime soon. my one big purchase was about 6 years ago, I bought a dude's collection for $1400 with the intention of selling most of it over time, and honestly wish I hadn't dealt any of it, as the entire thing would be worth $6000+ today. here's a card that was worth about $15 at the time, check this out now:
http://sales.starcitygames.com//search.php?substring=underground+sea&Go.x=15&Go.y=9
btw I don't think many people are making much money off of playing the game (maybe like 1% of the players), but if you can predict the market for buying/selling certain cards you can definitely do well
― frogbs, Saturday, 12 November 2011 15:58 (twelve years ago) link
should i play the dark ascension prerelease tournament it means getting up at 8am on a saturday
― roborally.rar (Lamp), Friday, 20 January 2012 01:23 (twelve years ago) link
sealed? does the set look cool?
― iatee, Friday, 20 January 2012 01:25 (twelve years ago) link
lamp, do it for those of us who want to live vicariously through you and provide a full report
― call all destroyer, Friday, 20 January 2012 01:26 (twelve years ago) link
yeah its a sealed, $25 bucks gets you um some # of boosters (i think 9?) and a promo card.
i totaled up what it would cost me to complete my innistrad set on starcitygames and its like $90 + shipping/taxes. i hate myself sometimes
― roborally.rar (Lamp), Friday, 20 January 2012 01:54 (twelve years ago) link
haha don't do #2 you will find a complete set to be a white elephant. #1 sounds like a decent use of $25.
― iatee, Friday, 20 January 2012 01:57 (twelve years ago) link
only pay for cards that you will almost definitely play with + directly enjoy
― Mordy, Friday, 20 January 2012 01:59 (twelve years ago) link
well i dont have $90 to my name atm so theres no risk i was just curious. amusingly enough ive pulled two of the really expensive innistrad cards (snapcaster and one of the planeswalkers) from boosters so its mostly just cheap cards left
― Lamp, Friday, 20 January 2012 02:00 (twelve years ago) link
although i know for a fact you two are both way underestimating the pleasure i would get from having a complete card set
its mostly lol cuz you can buy a complete set of innistrad on ebay for like $110 bux atm
― Lamp, Friday, 20 January 2012 02:01 (twelve years ago) link
yeah I think I have a hard time seeing things from a collector's pov but I'm like aspie on the other side of the spectrum. 'what is this object's functional value for me'
anyway I will play anyone itt cockatrice tonight
― iatee, Friday, 20 January 2012 02:11 (twelve years ago) link
man i just started buying cards again. haven't played since ice age. shit is great.
i haven't played a physical match against a real opponent yet, just trying stuff out on cockatrice. i've won a couple games using decks assembled from cards i actually own. thinking about going out to the burbs for friday night magic tomorrow but worry about embarrassing myself horribly.
― adam, Friday, 20 January 2012 02:13 (twelve years ago) link
cockatrice is super fun but dudes keep busting out these like $$$ standard decks and annihilating me, would like to play against decks comparable to those found at a south louisiana gaming store.
― adam, Friday, 20 January 2012 02:16 (twelve years ago) link
yeah when i played iatee last he used a constructed deck that just destroyed me like i could not win
― Lamp, Friday, 20 January 2012 02:43 (twelve years ago) link
look i like the forbidden alchemy into unburial rites into sun titan into grave titan via 8 million rare dual lands as much as the next guy but at some point it turns into an unwinnable arms race
― adam, Friday, 20 January 2012 02:55 (twelve years ago) link
aw man I like the beauty of the unwinnable arms races, it becomes all about statistics and tailoring the perfect deck
― iatee, Friday, 20 January 2012 02:57 (twelve years ago) link
I mean I like the idea of it, I was very much against it when I was a kid and could afford exactly 3 of the cards needed to make said perfect deck
― iatee, Friday, 20 January 2012 02:58 (twelve years ago) link
totally. coming back to magic after 15 years, with the internet-enabled secondary market and a grownup's disposable income--these serious decks are somewhat attainable at this point but my mindset is still firmly in buying boosters, opening them up and making do with what i get.
of course i am learning, to which my recent ebay sprees can attest.
― adam, Friday, 20 January 2012 03:02 (twelve years ago) link
haha I still don't have a grownup's disposable income I just play online
― iatee, Friday, 20 January 2012 03:03 (twelve years ago) link
nb by serious i mean stromkirk noble rather than 4x snapcaster
― adam, Friday, 20 January 2012 03:04 (twelve years ago) link
this is why im only playing w/friends or booster draft/sealed
― Lamp, Friday, 20 January 2012 03:08 (twelve years ago) link
i'm gonna play in the dark ascension prerelease. haven't played since invasion but made a new friend with a sick collection and played a couple cube drafts with him; was ill.
is cockatrice the new good online app? what about magic workstation?
i will also play people itt online. suppose i might as well get cockatrice
― chillin in the volvo, listenin' to alva-noto (fennel cartwright), Friday, 20 January 2012 03:55 (twelve years ago) link
cockatrice is way better than workstation!
― call all destroyer, Friday, 20 January 2012 03:56 (twelve years ago) link
it's way better in that it doesn't crash / is super easy to set up and use
but the deck builder really sucks and there is no sealed generator
― iatee, Friday, 20 January 2012 04:00 (twelve years ago) link
dark ascension seems pretty neat so far, there's a card that raises all Zombies from the dead and then literally says "Destroy all Humans"
sucks to be like the one dude playing the hypothetical "Human" deck and just get totally hosed. guess you have to accept your fate
― frogbs, Friday, 20 January 2012 04:02 (twelve years ago) link
was thinking about a human deck for dark ascension actually, the human token generators + champ of the parish + all the innistrad human-centric equivalent seems like a good time. until the zombie apocalypse.
― adam, Friday, 20 January 2012 04:04 (twelve years ago) link
I like the 'stuff happens when you have less than 5 life' ability
― iatee, Friday, 20 January 2012 04:06 (twelve years ago) link
"magic: the gaythering"About 37,000,000 results (0.20 seconds)
― NZA, Friday, 20 January 2012 04:06 (twelve years ago) link
2,650 results
― iatee, Friday, 20 January 2012 04:07 (twelve years ago) link
37 mil is for the alternative spelling 'magic the gathering'
― iatee, Friday, 20 January 2012 04:08 (twelve years ago) link
yeah there are some pretty obnoxious ones (like the pro black and green double strikers and that stupid "geist of saint something" that's way more powerful than it should be), but that card just amuses me - IIRC the Zombies in Innistrad aren't even worth playing in draft
― frogbs, Friday, 20 January 2012 04:09 (twelve years ago) link
im makin a t2 deck based around this card:
http://deckbox.org/system/images/mtg/cards/234436.jpg
obviously its expensive to cast but it's a damn 20-point life swing and there are a lot of good accel. cards, so why the hell not? it's like a $1 card too
― frogbs, Friday, 20 January 2012 04:10 (twelve years ago) link
haha that's pretty dope
― iatee, Friday, 20 January 2012 04:12 (twelve years ago) link
there are some blue/black mill yrself decks that work with zombies but it requires a really specific draft setup in order to get the big black spells to pay off ime
geist of saint traft is way overpowered but its p easy to work against. i still like g/w humans deck tbh just too many combos in limited rn
― Lamp, Friday, 20 January 2012 04:15 (twelve years ago) link
the 6-7 mana cards are definitely so much better than they used to be - i've had games where i'd be in total control and my opponent would just tap out and play some ridiculous card where its like "all your crreatures die, and oh yeah mine all get bigger LOL", whereas in the past it would only be like a 6/6 flyer or something
― frogbs, Friday, 20 January 2012 04:15 (twelve years ago) link
like travel prep + gnaw to the bone make g/w so rad
― Lamp, Friday, 20 January 2012 04:16 (twelve years ago) link
yeah 'gather the villagers' or w/e the new dark ascension card is that gives two +1/+1 human tokens looks so rad w/champion of the parish.
― Lamp, Friday, 20 January 2012 04:17 (twelve years ago) link
give me a break, it's got "hexproof", the dumbest ability of all timeso like, I can't touch it, but you can play that enchant creature that gives it +4/+4 and flying the next turn
― frogbs, Friday, 20 January 2012 04:19 (twelve years ago) link
wtf geist of saint traft that's ridiculous
― iatee, Friday, 20 January 2012 04:20 (twelve years ago) link
I mean that's essentially a 6/6 w/ no drawbacks for 3 mana
― iatee, Friday, 20 January 2012 04:21 (twelve years ago) link
i havent played against decks w/that card much but its only 2/2
― Lamp, Friday, 20 January 2012 04:22 (twelve years ago) link
yeah but if they get off to a slow start you can hit them w/ 6 damage
I dunno I guess context matters and decks are pretty small creature heavy these days but in old school magic that card would be banned in two minutes
― iatee, Friday, 20 January 2012 04:24 (twelve years ago) link
yeah Lamp and Morphling was just a 3/3!
― frogbs, Friday, 20 January 2012 04:25 (twelve years ago) link
anyway i'm doin some cock on this sorin's vengence deck, it's actually working okay. what I hate is that I'm playing aganist the same damn decks over and over again, it's like these decks are winning magic WORLDS, you don't need to test them to see if they work!
― frogbs, Friday, 20 January 2012 04:30 (twelve years ago) link
haha i have no idea what morphling is.
i can see why it seems overpowered and certainly the fact that its reaching snapcaster level prices tends to imply its really good but the couple of times ive played against someone w/that card it wasnt much of a problem, there are so many cheap creatures that can take out a 2/2 ive been able to deal w/them quickly and in draft no ones going to have a bunch of them
i wouldve assumed in constructed formats there are a lot of ways to deal w/ it then but the way its risen in price maybe not?
― Lamp, Friday, 20 January 2012 04:31 (twelve years ago) link
what id really like to see is someone get a werewolf deck that works
― Lamp, Friday, 20 January 2012 04:32 (twelve years ago) link
problem is there are hardly any good werewolves after transformation. moonmist would slay if transformation got more powerful.
apparently the new werewolves in dark ascension are better
― chillin in the volvo, listenin' to alva-noto (fennel cartwright), Friday, 20 January 2012 04:34 (twelve years ago) link
morphling was basically the most annoying creature ever, it just seemed unkillable, especially since decks that ran it usually played a lot of counterspells
geist isn't really a format breaker but it's so clearly powerful, a 3 mana creature that can end the game quick on its own and combos with a lot of stuff. like 3 mana creatures that need to be answered right away are so rare.
― frogbs, Friday, 20 January 2012 04:35 (twelve years ago) link