lol.
2 is not great. loooooong cutscenes, unlikable protagonist, lame setting.
i thought the mgs2 ship is supposed to be some classic shit? but i'll give 3 a shot first.
― this is unusual for batman. (Jordan), Friday, 11 November 2011 22:10 (twelve years ago) link
i played from start thru the 2nd vulcan raven fight in mgs1 yesterday. gonna beat that fucker tonight. feel a mgs marathon coming on. any opinions on acid or portable ops? have peacewalker via the HD collection.
― adam, Monday, 12 March 2012 12:20 (twelve years ago) link
i couldn't hang with mgs3. :( got too frustrated by the controls and either waiting forever or committing suicide every time the alarm sounded.
― 40oz of tears (Jordan), Monday, 12 March 2012 14:24 (twelve years ago) link
did you play mgs2 at all? i'm looking forward to rescreening it.
btw there is a cyborg ninja-themed action game coming out (with kojima "input" but made by the bayonetta/vanquish dudes) and it is called METAL GEAR RISING: REVENGEANCE
― adam, Monday, 12 March 2012 15:15 (twelve years ago) link
nope, although i have it on the HD disc now.
what are you playing the first one on?
― 40oz of tears (Jordan), Monday, 12 March 2012 15:23 (twelve years ago) link
ps3 via the ps1 classics thing. $10, kind of a lot for a game i've bought twice already but honestly i got more out of that $10 yesterday than i've gotten out of say skyrim. mgs1 rules though honestly i am not looking forward to the vulcan raven fight when i get home. the 2nd sniper wolf fight was already pretty frustrating. i'd forgotten what huge strides were taken, control- and content-wise, between 1 and 2 (and the gamecube remake). i keep wanting to hide bodies and look in lockers and aiming is impossible (hence sniper wolf nerdrage).
― adam, Monday, 12 March 2012 15:41 (twelve years ago) link
waiting for a good deal on the HD collection, i'd love to play 2 again after so many years. still have yet to play any of the games past Twin Snakes, though
― Nhex, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 05:19 (twelve years ago) link
snake eater has the best gameplay
― these pretzels are makeing me horney (Hungry4Ass), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 14:21 (twelve years ago) link
I have MGS4 and never finished it for some reason! didn't get that far in. Maybe I'll restart it sometime soon, but I have the suspicion that means 45 minutes worth of exposition.
― wolf kabob (mh), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 14:24 (twelve years ago) link
i've found MGS games have gotten more fun with the advent/widespread adoption of wifi etc as i can sit in front of the couch with my laptop and dick around on ilx or whatever while people in the game babble about foxdie etc.
― adam, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 16:03 (twelve years ago) link
also at the end of 2 many years ago during the 45 minute cutscene i just rested the dual shock on my balls and read a magazine. nice way to spend an afternoon.
― adam, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 16:28 (twelve years ago) link
oh hey i was wrong, mgs2 is in fact great. the part where snake is all sneaking around in the cargo hold of the tanker w/ all the marines and the commander dude has them stretching their necks and doing drills to prepare for intruders is fucking brilliant.
― adam, Friday, 16 March 2012 16:15 (twelve years ago) link
Played a little of Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance tonight. OMFG. Easily the best MG game I have ever played. I tried the others and I just can't deal w the oblique control scheme. This is more like playing Contra. In fact, it's like playing the game you made up on the bus home from school w your BFF the day after playing NES Contra for the first time. My sole complaint is the music (generic techno/emo/electro/goth Rob Zombie remixing My Chemical Romance) but even when it's really cheesy, it adds to the Visual Kei flair of the whole.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 20 March 2014 02:31 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysBLfZhGWvQ
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 20 March 2014 02:32 (ten years ago) link
LOL. How is that not awesome, in a b-movie kind of way? This is Michael Bay X anime only you are the cinematographer and lead character. And your name is introduced (by the Prime Minister, in a limo) as Mr. Lightning Bolt. 20 minutes later, I am leaping from missile to missile (still in full control of the camera) and then on top of a giant robot that I slide down the entire length of (while more missiles shoot at me) (like in that Mission Impossible movie) while I slice him in half with my giant sword (which levitates and is electric for some reason). No action movie comes close to topping this.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 20 March 2014 02:36 (ten years ago) link
Who needs Citizen Kane? This is video gaming's Die Hard.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 20 March 2014 02:37 (ten years ago) link
The sense of humor is great, too. The game is ridiculously fast paced (hyper real) and you NEVER have to walk. If you want to walk, the key is the hard-to-reach "Tab" and it's so slow, it seems sarcastic.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 20 March 2014 02:40 (ten years ago) link
revengeance rules. ground zeroes kinda does too, gross japanese stuff aside.
― adam, Thursday, 20 March 2014 03:30 (ten years ago) link
platinum games should be handed every franchise and allowed to go to town
― papa smango (fadanuf4erybody), Thursday, 20 March 2014 05:31 (ten years ago) link
MGRR is Contra X Ninja Gaiden
― ▴▲ ▴TH3CR()$BY$H()W▴▲ ▴ (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 21 March 2014 00:47 (ten years ago) link
Ok now im somewhere neat/at the canals in Italy ninja-sword-fighting a bunch of Boba Fetts.
― ▴▲ ▴TH3CR()$BY$H()W▴▲ ▴ (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 21 March 2014 01:39 (ten years ago) link
The 'slice the enemy into as many pieces as you can' trick never gets old because this game looks amazing, and having 200 individual glowing robot pieces floating in slow motion while you dice them is just....wow
― ▴▲ ▴TH3CR()$BY$H()W▴▲ ▴ (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 21 March 2014 01:41 (ten years ago) link
Finally * FINALLY * made it past the title screen on Metal Gear Solid. The gameplay is pretty nice, but I really love the cutscenes. Every time the screen changes to the green skype of a surrealist military soap opera, I love it. The voice acting is the BEST EVER and they got the most grizzled colonel guy ever, he sounds so effing tough when he's telling you "Press the action button to go up a ladder"! I can already tell this game is going to rule, like first-person Japanese James Bond. Konami: where games about shadow military organizations come with more depth, drama, horror, philosophy, surrealist banter, poetry, special effects, one-liners, graphic design, and artistic integrity than the All-Time USA Box Office Top 10 combined.
― ▴▲ ▴TH3CR()$BY$H()W▴▲ ▴ (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 5 April 2014 03:02 (ten years ago) link
Hah!
― Nhex, Saturday, 5 April 2014 03:54 (ten years ago) link
Make sure you use the comms as much as possible, even in the middle of boss fights, if you want to fully enjoy the skype drama.
― Nhex, Saturday, 5 April 2014 03:55 (ten years ago) link
i've been playing through 3; beat THE END the other day. i was following his muddy footprints up a hill when a sudden glint from his scope on a neighboring ledge made me drop prone and slither through grass up the rest of the hill, and just as i reached the crest a light rain whispered in, slowly. kinda transcendent.
― difficult listening hour, Saturday, 5 April 2014 05:21 (ten years ago) link
mgs2 deserved a vote here; it may be the funniest game i've ever played.
― difficult listening hour, Saturday, 5 April 2014 05:26 (ten years ago) link
I made it past the first boss fight and had a long rumination on the dangerous post-war proliferation of nuclear weapons with the president before he had a 'heart attack'. Before he died he told me to check the back of the CD case LOL.
― ▴▲ ▴TH3CR()$BY$H()W▴▲ ▴ (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 5 April 2014 14:23 (ten years ago) link
I wrote down these names because they are amazing:
Psycho MantisSniper WolfDecoy OctopusVulcan RavenRevolver OcelotLiquid Snake
― ▴▲ ▴TH3CR()$BY$H()W▴▲ ▴ (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 5 April 2014 14:30 (ten years ago) link
http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20091226190134/metalgear/images/d/d9/Mantis_Castlevania.jpg
― We hugged with no names exchanged (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 6 April 2014 23:56 (ten years ago) link
Snake: "You're a ninja!"
I just met up w the otaku dude. LOL this game is amazing. And of course Snake is this total super-serious badass who doesn't mind just waiting for this guy to say whatever he wants to about Japanese anime or cute butts or whatever. I love that shimmering camouflage effect, it sort of looks like someone made a programming mistake one day and Kojima saw it and was like "Oh, I'm going to write that in as a plot device!"
― ▴▲ ▴TH3CR()$BY$H()W▴▲ ▴ (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 7 April 2014 02:16 (ten years ago) link
There is some history of metal gear thing on youtube where they have all the characters on playing cards or something and go through the entire series chronologically and it is one of the nerdiest things I have ever watched.
― ▴▲ ▴TH3CR()$BY$H()W▴▲ ▴ (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 7 April 2014 02:17 (ten years ago) link
I just beat Psycho Mantis and it was AMAZING. The whole black screen of death and switching controllers (didn't find anything on my memory card tho) really amped up the tension in the fight. The gameplay in MGS is tight and the cut-scenes (which are a big issue for Kojima's critics) are so well-written and pretty much perfectly integrated into the game. I'm not a fan of the modern trend towards cut-scenes, but in this game they are MASTERFULLY woven into the gameplay. It is quite the seamless experience!
Predator, Star Wars, and The Terminator are all big influences on the writing. Got to give a hand to Jeremy Blaustein for the English translation!
― ▴▲ ▴TH3CR()$BY$H()W▴▲ ▴ (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 11 April 2014 22:20 (ten years ago) link
The whole sequence where you are running up this giant Communications Tower up like a dozen flight of stairs and bad guys are shooting at you from behind, so you're chucking flash grenades at them, then you get to the door and it's frozen shut, so you end up on the roof in a standoff against a helicopter, who ends up blowing up the roof while you leap from explosion Die Hard style is AWESOME. I am finally comfortable with these controls :)
― ▴▲ ▴TH3CR()$BY$H()W▴▲ ▴ (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 12 April 2014 02:17 (ten years ago) link
Hal and Dave, that's a good one! Maybe we should take a trip to Jupiter!
― ▴▲ ▴TH3CR()$BY$H()W▴▲ ▴ (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 12 April 2014 06:58 (ten years ago) link
i just bought the new one
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 19 April 2014 19:26 (ten years ago) link
basically because i have about 50000000 things to do in the next 6 days and this seems like a good way of not doing them
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 19 April 2014 19:27 (ten years ago) link
i died about 100000000 times
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 20 April 2014 10:40 (ten years ago) link
So I just started playing MGS2, and I've made it past the first part of the game and onto the second protagonist. The "Did you say 'nerd'?" "Not nerd, node." exchange felt VERY David Lynch. In fact, the whole story is feeling more and more David Lynch. What's the deal w that skull mask? How come there is an all-new, far less cool, scene showing whenever you die? I know, I know, the game gets meta, nobody spoil anything but answering my questions please.
But sweet Jesus the cutscenes in this game are overkill. There are some in the first one, but here they really do seem to last a long time. Again, this is both ok because the writing in this series is pretty special, and not ok because the gameplay/controls/graphics are so far improved over the first MGS that whenever it's taken away from you, it sort of sucks. This is the big auteur game? Has anyone played Policenauts?
― ▴▲ ▴TH3CR()$BY$H()W▴▲ ▴ (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 21 April 2014 15:07 (ten years ago) link
The cutscenes do not get any shorter
― a strange man (mh), Monday, 21 April 2014 15:19 (ten years ago) link
Hahaha, wait until you get to the end of the game
― Nhex, Monday, 21 April 2014 15:25 (ten years ago) link
as this poll reflects mgs1 is mad superior to mgs2 (which I actually just didn't like much: terrible dialogue, uninteresting plot (also nonsensical, but that's ok), silly villains, not much new gameplay) and also to mgs3 which has great gameplay but really lacks a good storyline and omg enough with the "what is a warrior"-philosophizing omg infinite codecs.
just completed mgs2 yesterday and almost fell asleep during final codec-conversation (but thematically mgs2 is pretty good, just doesn't translate into as fun an experience as 1 or 3)
but still they are all pretty good games compared...
but now i'm gonna play mgs1 :D
― niels, Monday, 21 April 2014 16:02 (ten years ago) link
btw really nice to read your "live-posting" on mgs1 :)
― niels, Monday, 21 April 2014 16:03 (ten years ago) link
raiden's nonstop bewilderment in 2 is hilarious. "!?". he is a man who has only played video games and does not expect them to be like this one. said it in the other thread but iirc he's told at the very beginning that there's "30 billion dollars in cash" involved in the affair, and then every time he asks about it after that nobody knows what he's talking about. it just blows away in the wind of the "plot".
― difficult listening hour, Monday, 21 April 2014 16:22 (ten years ago) link
(that was technically a spoiler, but don't worry; this game is in the volume business.)
― difficult listening hour, Monday, 21 April 2014 16:23 (ten years ago) link
we need to link this thread in: Metal Gear Solid 2
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, 21 April 2014 16:31 (ten years ago) link
Yeah Raiden is hilarious, when he takes over. I finished Revengeance last week and he's basically and unstoppable killing machine in that, so it's funny to see where he came from. Nontop bewilderment otm.
The more I read about Kojima the more it seems like a George Lucas case, of an artist who accidentally made a huge genre-defining work and is now forever beholden to that work if only out of monetary necessity. Every successive game he says is the last one, and yet they won't let him go. The list of all the Metal Gears he has written/directed/produced comes to nearly 30 games in the past 15 years:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hideo_Kojima#Metal_Gear_series
― ▴▲ ▴TH3CR()$BY$H()W▴▲ ▴ (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 21 April 2014 17:11 (ten years ago) link
Btw the PC port of MGS2 is amazing, one of the best ports ever. It even recognized my Rock Candy wireless PS2 controller at the key config. (And of course the controller always turns itself off during the cutscenes. Then someone in a cutscene goes "Snake! Snaaaake!" and I turn it on again, ready to play. Then the cutscene continues for another 5 minutes and the controller turns itself off again LOL)
― ▴▲ ▴TH3CR()$BY$H()W▴▲ ▴ (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 21 April 2014 17:23 (ten years ago) link
lol volume business
this talk is almost inspiring me to finally pick up Snake Eater. almost. i'm almost there.
― Nhex, Monday, 21 April 2014 18:20 (ten years ago) link
The build up and ending of MGS2 is the most nonsensical thing I've ever encountered in video game form! It's kind of amazing that it exists.
― a strange man (mh), Monday, 21 April 2014 18:26 (ten years ago) link