― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 24 February 2005 01:02 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Thursday, 24 February 2005 01:03 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 24 February 2005 01:04 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Thursday, 24 February 2005 01:09 (nineteen years ago) link
SO ANYWAY, of the first twenty singles there, which is the most underrated? My answer after dinner...
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 24 February 2005 02:20 (nineteen years ago) link
― edward o (edwardo), Thursday, 24 February 2005 02:24 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 24 February 2005 02:43 (nineteen years ago) link
i would say the beach boys are definitely in the same league as the pet shop boys. the clash are several rungs below both those groups.(not that i don't enjoy some clash songs, i do. but if anyone on that sonic youth thread is still wondering who the most overrated rock band is...)
the pet shop boys should have a national holiday in their honour and several life-size statues placed wherever they would inspire the most public uplift in the U.K.
― scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 24 February 2005 02:52 (nineteen years ago) link
It's absolutely "Love Comes Quickly".
i would say the beach boys are definitely in the same league as the pet shop boys.
I am a big whore for amazing vocal harmonies and I can't think of a single Beach Boys song that's better than 90% of Actually.
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 24 February 2005 03:08 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 24 February 2005 03:11 (nineteen years ago) link
― fernando, Thursday, 24 February 2005 03:34 (nineteen years ago) link
Anyway, when I heard the Blank & Jones remix on PopArt, it finally clicked. Sooner or later, this happens to everyone. To everyone.
― davidsim (davidsim), Thursday, 24 February 2005 05:09 (nineteen years ago) link
Meanwhile, which of the *videos* for those songs did you like the best? (Alternately, which of the sleeves?)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 24 February 2005 05:12 (nineteen years ago) link
― edward o (edwardo), Thursday, 24 February 2005 05:28 (nineteen years ago) link
They tried to reprise the magic with Se A Vida E (which had its moments) and one of the last videos on PopArt whose name I forget (and which didn't).
― davidsim (davidsim), Thursday, 24 February 2005 05:29 (nineteen years ago) link
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 24 February 2005 05:31 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 24 February 2005 05:32 (nineteen years ago) link
It's not a very dynamic song, as I find the vocals flat and monotonous, with the melody lacking in punch and sparkle -- unlike, "Rent" for example. That's a similarly reserved-sounding song, but the melody is irresistably playful. Yeah, I know, "Rent" is a sardonically-told little love story, while "Being Boring" tackles far more serious issues, and a playful song would detract from that message. But the even-keeled melody they left behind doesn't emote at me in the least.
Pet Shop Boys have made great ballads ("Jealousy") and they can do the preachy, didactic thing ("It's a Sin"), but it needs to be *huge* and over the top.
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 24 February 2005 05:53 (nineteen years ago) link
Maybe being over-the-top isn't the most appropriate way to communicate a message like the one in "Being Boring". I certainly wouldn't object to that statement, but if that sort of melody is what's necessary for putting forth that message, then that sort of song doesn't necessarily make for interesting listening. At least not compared to what the PSB are otherwise capable of.
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 24 February 2005 05:58 (nineteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 24 February 2005 06:02 (nineteen years ago) link
― neil lowe and chris tennant, Thursday, 24 February 2005 07:16 (nineteen years ago) link
― neil lowe and chris tennant, Thursday, 24 February 2005 07:21 (nineteen years ago) link
Definitely, Domino Dancing. I also think this is their most underrated single because it is a good example of how, as Momus would argue, you can get something fresh and original by not getting things 'right'. Clearly the PSB, by choosing to record this during the over-produced, synthesized late eighties, 'failed' to make it sound genuinely latin. Instead they created something a bit camp that sounded truly unique. When they did get it 'right' (Bilingual) it wasn't as good.
― daavid (daavid), Thursday, 24 February 2005 07:58 (nineteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 24 February 2005 08:03 (nineteen years ago) link
my favourite video is either 'Heart' (not just for stupid hottt bride) or 'Can You Forgive Her' for all the madcap gimmicky CGI
they should've produced a Kylie song
― Sven Bastard (blueski), Thursday, 24 February 2005 11:23 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 24 February 2005 14:22 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 24 February 2005 14:59 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 24 February 2005 15:06 (nineteen years ago) link
― scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 24 February 2005 15:24 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 24 February 2005 15:29 (nineteen years ago) link
― Brian Miller (Brian Miller), Thursday, 24 February 2005 15:37 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 24 February 2005 16:04 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 24 February 2005 16:05 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 24 February 2005 16:08 (nineteen years ago) link
As for "Domino," it surpasses (just barely though) anything Lewis Martinee did with Exposé or the Cover Girls.
― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 24 February 2005 16:10 (nineteen years ago) link
Also, the original b-side version of "I Want A Dog" on the "Rent" single is so infinitely superior to the Introspective version that it isn't even funny.
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 24 February 2005 16:23 (nineteen years ago) link
― scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 24 February 2005 16:26 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 24 February 2005 16:26 (nineteen years ago) link
Dan is crazy! It's one of my favorite PSB singles.
― Leon the Fatboy (Ex Leon), Thursday, 24 February 2005 16:28 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 24 February 2005 16:29 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 24 February 2005 16:30 (nineteen years ago) link
― Leon the Fatboy (Ex Leon), Thursday, 24 February 2005 16:30 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 24 February 2005 16:32 (nineteen years ago) link
I do agree that "Introspective" marks the point where Tennant starts to loosen up his singing. I love how his voice rides the synth-orchestra swells on "I'm Not Scared" (a lovely song that flirts with camp and succeeds).
― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 24 February 2005 16:37 (nineteen years ago) link
ahhhhhh, that's right, you are the meat is murder absolutist. well, i can certainly relate to having non-poopular opinions about music. but you ARE crazy for not loving strangeways. as long as we both agree that an hour spent watching the amazing race is an hour well-spent then we will have no problems.
― scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 24 February 2005 16:44 (nineteen years ago) link
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 24 February 2005 18:37 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 24 February 2005 19:23 (nineteen years ago) link
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 24 February 2005 19:42 (nineteen years ago) link
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 24 February 2005 19:44 (nineteen years ago) link