I wonder if the wife will help him write it...
― suzy, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 11:06 (fifteen years ago) link
Who's the wife?
― teflon monkey, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 21:49 (fifteen years ago) link
Mrs Haines.
I wonder how their career would have panned out had they won the Mercury prize that year instead of Suede. As much as I love them they weren't a band the great British public were going to love, a little too sour,a touch too nasty.
― Billy Dods, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 22:02 (fifteen years ago) link
What doesn't make sense is why "New French Girlfriend" wasn't huge.
― teflon monkey, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 22:05 (fifteen years ago) link
he had a go at bernard butler for giving the MERCURY cash to a cancer charity after they were beaten to the prize by suede. benard's dad had died from cancer earlier that year. laughs galore then.
― piscesx, Thursday, 12 June 2008 04:06 (fifteen years ago) link
http://sianpattenden.co.uk/
― MPx4A, Thursday, 12 June 2008 09:01 (fifteen years ago) link
aka "Sian Solanas"
oo!
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Pop-Idol-Inside-Biggest-Superstar/dp/1842225367/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1213261325&sr=1-1
― MPx4A, Thursday, 12 June 2008 09:02 (fifteen years ago) link
Ha ha ha, now that's funny.
― teflon monkey, Thursday, 12 June 2008 23:26 (fifteen years ago) link
"The goal posts have moved. With Blur and Oasis, it was the first time any of those bands were starting to have real chart success. Suede really upped the anti and the whole bullshit of the Blur/Oasis thing was the idea that this was something new and different, that these were guitar bands who were exciting, when really they were just light entertainment. They had to go light entertainment to get to that point of selling shitloads of records. To me it didn't look like any kind of real battle, it just looked like Freddie and the Dreamers vs Herman's Hermits. You know, they should be on at teatime at the London Palladium. More derivative stuff. Write your own record!"
Oasis destroyed so much.
"We had a man here who proudly claimed he never read a book. Shut up, moron. I don't mind his bluff northern demeanor at times, but you know, what's that line... 'Slowly walking down the hall / faster than a cannonball'? How did he get away with that? Hahaha. If we still had the stocks, that man would be in them."
― teflon monkey, Thursday, 12 June 2008 23:39 (fifteen years ago) link
Hey,
I'll bet anyone here Luke Haines never wrote a bad song with The Auteurs.
― teflon monkey, Monday, 23 June 2008 20:06 (fifteen years ago) link
Or used a metaphor where a simile would do!
― Mark G, Monday, 23 June 2008 20:46 (fifteen years ago) link
Talk to the hand
"Seminal music genre...featured Menswear and Thurman...Ooh, don't get me started...Changed your life, didn't it? Cast at the Dublin Castle, tracksuit tops, Paul Weller back on top. Best days of my f**king life...All of which fails to explain why you mongs forgot to vote for me in the readers' poll. Can't-f**king-read-ers poll, more like. Wankers."
― teflon monkey, Tuesday, 24 June 2008 00:23 (fifteen years ago) link
he's married to sian pattenden? sian pattenden from select magazine?
thats like a bizarro world Posh'n'Becks.
― Hamildan, Tuesday, 24 June 2008 10:47 (fifteen years ago) link
the same. or, to put in in sian style, the "same."
― banriquit, Tuesday, 24 June 2008 10:48 (fifteen years ago) link
He's gonna play all the hits that we knew, All of the new album too, It's good to have something in these times to look forward to!
― teflon monkey, Tuesday, 15 July 2008 23:49 (fifteen years ago) link
I'm reading the book at the moment... it is a barrel of laughs. I like how honest Haines is about what a total cockfarmer he is. There is a bit in particular where the band are flying back from a tour to Japan, on which Haines has been playing creepy mind games with them all, and his girlfriend and bass player breaks down into floods of tears... the others have loved ones to go back to and a life outside the band, but she is stuck with old Haines.
― The Real Dirty Vicar, Thursday, 13 November 2008 13:19 (fifteen years ago) link
I find the idea of Haines marrying a music journalist amusing, given that he hates them.
― The Real Dirty Vicar, Thursday, 13 November 2008 13:20 (fifteen years ago) link
I read this at the weekend. It was good. Martin Carr isn't going to enjoy it. I also hope that when the proof copy becomes an actual copy, no-one notices that he spells Mu-Ziq as Muzique several times
― The Slash My Father Wrote (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 13 November 2008 14:02 (fifteen years ago) link
gah, this is isn't out til next year?
― Glans Christian Christian christian Christian Andersen (MPx4A), Thursday, 13 November 2008 15:37 (fifteen years ago) link
January I think
― The Slash My Father Wrote (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 13 November 2008 16:10 (fifteen years ago) link
He seems very fond of Momus.
― The Real Dirty Vicar, Thursday, 13 November 2008 16:47 (fifteen years ago) link
this is pretty good
― Glans Beckenbauer (MPx4A), Saturday, 17 January 2009 18:23 (fifteen years ago) link
Best bit so far when he tells the drummer they're supporting Suede..."Brilliant" he says "I love Slade"
― sonnyboy, Saturday, 17 January 2009 18:37 (fifteen years ago) link
UNBELIEVABLE BUT TRUE FACT: I went to Waterstones with the person who the starter of this thread ganked his username from, and he bought this book (and enjoyed it)
― Pescetarian Reich (DJ Mencap), Saturday, 17 January 2009 19:13 (fifteen years ago) link
I like how he just refers to Banbury as "The Cellist" throughout
Also going to do a Palestinian terrorist themed photo shoot at the Olympic Stadium in Munich, and getting his stand-in drummer to wear a balaclava and a Direct Action Against Drugs t-shirt, on TV - guy was a real prick in the 90s huh
― Glans Beckenbauer (MPx4A), Monday, 19 January 2009 10:20 (fifteen years ago) link
^^ spoilers.
i am reading it and it is good.
― Simon Jartvik (special guest stars mark bronson), Monday, 19 January 2009 11:40 (fifteen years ago) link
gah, this'll never come out in America, will it?
― Matos W.K., Monday, 19 January 2009 12:50 (fifteen years ago) link
the exchange rate is in your favour.
― Simon Jartvik (special guest stars mark bronson), Monday, 19 January 2009 15:06 (fifteen years ago) link
http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2009/jan/18/luke-haines-britpop-louise-wener
louise wener there, doing herself no favours
― NI, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 20:57 (fifteen years ago) link
These days, she rarely does.
― Hamildan, Wednesday, 21 January 2009 09:09 (fifteen years ago) link
I dunno, I think she nailed it.
Oh, and
I was a doe-eyed siren who sang with my band Sleeper about sex and suburban angst.
That's Louise, not me.
― Mark G, Wednesday, 21 January 2009 09:18 (fifteen years ago) link
although...
It's not the fact that he writes "difficult" songs with titles like Unsolved Child Murder that defeats him - it's the fact they aren't about anything.
Um, this is demonstrably untrue
― Pescetarian Reich (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 21 January 2009 09:46 (fifteen years ago) link
I was a doe-eyed siren
so is this
he also says in the book that he liked Modern Life is Rubbish, and explains in punishing detail what many of his songs are "about"
― Glans Kafka (MPx4A), Wednesday, 21 January 2009 11:44 (fifteen years ago) link
Wener should be careful about using terms like "perennial underachiever." If she'd concentrated in the nineties on making decent music rather than giving "good" interviews to the music press perhaps her records wouldn't be cluttering up the racks of every charity shop in 2009.
― Ben E Gesserit (Marcello Carlin), Wednesday, 21 January 2009 12:26 (fifteen years ago) link
Yeah, but she did have the chart run, right? Admittedly with the downward curve at the end, but still...
― Mark G, Wednesday, 21 January 2009 12:27 (fifteen years ago) link
So did Robson & Jerome.
― Ben E Gesserit (Marcello Carlin), Wednesday, 21 January 2009 12:29 (fifteen years ago) link
true, but you wouldn't call them undeerachievers either.
― Mark G, Wednesday, 21 January 2009 12:30 (fifteen years ago) link
I'm anxious to find out who the 70's Cult Legend mentioned in the book is, anyone know?
I could only think of Kevin Ayers but I know that must be wrong.
― MaresNest, Wednesday, 21 January 2009 12:55 (fifteen years ago) link
The whole Cellist thing is weird... Haines just hates him for no obvious reason, and then at the end (spoiler) he seems to reconsider and start liking him. That was nice.
― The Real Dirty Vicar, Wednesday, 21 January 2009 13:22 (fifteen years ago) link
has anyone ever read any of Louise Wener's books?
I wonder has she learned a new facial expression.
― The Real Dirty Vicar, Wednesday, 21 January 2009 13:24 (fifteen years ago) link
My gf read her first. She said it was shit.
I remember a particularly bad article she wrote for the Guardian which pretty much said that she was the first woman ever to give birth.
― Glansel & Gretel (Raw Patrick), Wednesday, 21 January 2009 13:27 (fifteen years ago) link
The very definition of tl;dr
― Glansel & Gretel (Raw Patrick), Wednesday, 21 January 2009 13:30 (fifteen years ago) link
Gormless hamster has got her this far...
― Beloved lightbulb (Neil S), Wednesday, 21 January 2009 13:31 (fifteen years ago) link
when i saw Sleeper she performed without wearing shoes, which led to me hating her forever until the end of time
― akm, Wednesday, 21 January 2009 14:30 (fifteen years ago) link
Hating someone for not wearing shoes is rather bootless.
― moley, Wednesday, 21 January 2009 14:36 (fifteen years ago) link
It shows a distinct lack of sole.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 21 January 2009 14:46 (fifteen years ago) link
Hell regret claiming that.
― Beloved lightbulb (Neil S), Wednesday, 21 January 2009 14:47 (fifteen years ago) link
doh HEEL!!! oh forget it...
― Beloved lightbulb (Neil S), Wednesday, 21 January 2009 14:48 (fifteen years ago) link
Yeah, when I saw the line-up they jumped out immediately.
Another bit on American Guitars:The other group was called the Auteurs. They were not as popular as the Suede group, although they had better songs. One of these songs was called 'American Guitars'. Some of the lance corporals of the kingdom of Britannia thought they heard a story in the song about an ancient mythical war between Britannia and the old kingdom of America. In their excitement the lance corporals hadn't listened to the words of the song properly. Nevertheless, it gave them an idea about a new kind of music for the children of Britannia. They announced their idea in Select magazine in April 193.
― chord simple (j.o.n.a), Thursday, 22 January 2009 22:10 (fifteen years ago) link
They announced their idea in Select magazine in April 193.
Aw what a waste of a good typo, 1913 would have been funny.
― anatol_merklich, Friday, 23 January 2009 06:40 (fifteen years ago) link
Aw, that was mine and all, rather than the sloppy editing in the book.
― chord simple (j.o.n.a), Friday, 23 January 2009 08:21 (fifteen years ago) link
http://www.newstatesman.com/books/2009/01/luke-haines-vibes-britpop
essentially a Mod Revival Revival
essentially a reynolds stan stan, quoting leading morrissey apologist k-punk on how not making jungle music is racist, a meme almost as boring as "omfg the bbc reported on two singles being released on the same day!11!1!!" -- which needless to say also gets a look-in.
top marks for using 'provincial' as pejorative and bigging up that fascist fuck wyndham lewis.
― special guest stars mark bronson, Thursday, 29 January 2009 18:42 (fifteen years ago) link
o/t but is it a tendency that the people who most front with the "techno is FUTURE MUSIC, how could you possibly listen to SONGS by people holding GUITARS" babble actually tend to be people who got into the dance music late and still keep a flame for the indie rock of their youth?
this guy's last blog entry is something about those fearless revolutionaries pulp; and the cases of reynolds and k-punk are too obvious to labour.
i suppose one problem with life, and people, is that they are complicated and sometimes like different sorts of music at the same time, or like different aspects of different musics for different reasons.
but no, maybe not, maybe liking denim and saint etienne is just racist.
― special guest stars mark bronson, Thursday, 29 January 2009 18:59 (fifteen years ago) link
1995/96 was also a pretty lame time to be cheerleading for techno as musical revolution, as much as plenty of good stuff came from that period
― Peter Andre Test Tube Babies (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 29 January 2009 20:51 (fifteen years ago) link
lol at john harris "ennobling" anything.
― joe, Thursday, 29 January 2009 21:07 (fifteen years ago) link
http://www.culturedeluxe.com/music/interview/interview-luke-haines/
Confirms a follow up book, "Yep".
― Born too beguiled (DavidM), Tuesday, 10 August 2010 21:47 (thirteen years ago) link
Read Bad Vibes in about 4 or 5 hours. Amazing book. I guess it might not make a whole lot of sense to people who aren't intimately familiar with Haines' oeuvre up to the beginning of Black Box Recorder. Regardless, I think the writing is funny and vivid enough to draw anyone in. Have his follow-up coming in in a few days. Can't wait. Seems like that book didn't attract much attention considering his career post-BBR/Auteurs isn't as interesting to the public.
Loved the bit about Liam sucking on an ice lolly as he waves at Luke from across the street.
― afriendlypioneer, Monday, 14 January 2013 16:27 (eleven years ago) link
Man, I loved Bad Vibes, but Post Everything is pathetic. Just felt like a rambling mess with no real sense of purpose.
― afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 8 May 2013 14:41 (ten years ago) link
I got the audiobook, read by the man himself. Loads of fun, and it's only $7.99
https://play.google.com/store/music/album/Luke_Haines_Bad_Vibes?id=Bolkdu73r5ndfs7vxcvfjvozchm&hl=en
― kornrulez6969, Saturday, 3 May 2014 16:47 (nine years ago) link
His last two albums are pretty great. I'm not too sure about the new one. "Lou Reed Lou Reed" is terrible and "Alan Vega Says" didn't seem too great either.
I like the sound of this, though:
BV: What do you do when you're not making music?LH: I've actually got a thing in the Berlin Festival in July with a guy called Scott King. It's a "micro-opera" thing with visuals. It's about Mark E. Smith of The Fall going on a caravan holiday. Do you have caravans in the States, what old people go off in when they retire?BV: We call them RVs here. Winnebagos.LH: Right. RVs. So anyway the opera is about that. It's a short thing, with actors and everything. It's very "art." The opera's called Adventures in Dementia.
LH: I've actually got a thing in the Berlin Festival in July with a guy called Scott King. It's a "micro-opera" thing with visuals. It's about Mark E. Smith of The Fall going on a caravan holiday. Do you have caravans in the States, what old people go off in when they retire?
BV: We call them RVs here. Winnebagos.
LH: Right. RVs. So anyway the opera is about that. It's a short thing, with actors and everything. It's very "art." The opera's called Adventures in Dementia.
http://www.brooklynvegan.com/archives/2014/04/luke_haines_tal.html
I like him when he just sounds like a guy who's into his own thing. The acerbic antichrist of Britpop persona he's got isn't a winner.
― afriendlypioneer, Saturday, 3 May 2014 20:56 (nine years ago) link
It isnt a winner but he's spent half of career basing himself on what he isnt, he isnt necessarily tiresome but all that shit is
― Master of Treacle, Saturday, 3 May 2014 21:30 (nine years ago) link
I like Alan Vega says. He's got a shtick just like Lou Reed did. He is still making interesting music which is more than can be said of the rest of his 90s contemporaries.
My favorite song he ever wrote could be Fighting In The City Tonight, which is an unheralded masterpiece from a sol record. I even like his voice.
― kornrulez6969, Sunday, 4 May 2014 01:59 (nine years ago) link
http://www.thelineofbestfit.com/reviews/albums/luke-haines-new-york-in-the-70s?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed
The new one is surprisingly getting great reviews.
― afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 14 May 2014 14:43 (nine years ago) link
Luke Haines is such a country singer name.
― how's life, Wednesday, 14 May 2014 14:59 (nine years ago) link
now i'm a cowboy
― afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 14 May 2014 15:03 (nine years ago) link
always wers
― Mark G, Wednesday, 14 May 2014 16:10 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FasitDgQfCk
can't get excited about it
― afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 14 May 2014 17:45 (nine years ago) link
god now i'm a cowboy is phenomenal. it has this sinister undercurrent--i think it's just the cello--that makes me feel all kinds of things. it's also a very nostalgic album for me. on the other hand, this new song...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEqRi5AFimI
why do all his new songs sound the same? i can't put my finger on it.
― afriendlypioneer, Friday, 13 April 2018 19:40 (six years ago) link