Went to Russia, didn't he?
― Tom D., Tuesday, 13 May 2008 12:10 (fifteen years ago) link
http://www.strummernews.com/longpigs3.jpg
― Dom Passantino, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 12:12 (fifteen years ago) link
Yeah, but Paul Young and Phil Collins are still discussed in most histories of 80s pop, even if they weren't considered that important, whereas the book I'm reading is basically the only jazz history where I've read about Charles Lloyd.
Jazz is not pop. Thus, being popular doesn't necessarily mean anything in jazz while it is kind of impossible of ignore in pop.
― Geir Hongro, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 12:12 (fifteen years ago) link
Impossible TO ignore, I mean
― Geir Hongro, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 12:13 (fifteen years ago) link
Went to Russia, didn't he? Well, that'd do it. The Lloyd/Jarrett dynamic is kind of like the Spencer Davis/Steve Winwood situation, where the supposed sideman turned out to be the star.
― briania, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 12:20 (fifteen years ago) link
Engelbert Humperdinck is a good example of a once-popular artist who is now ignored in the canonical history books, whatever those are. Even among comparable schlagers of the day, it's Tom Jones who continues to resonate. And rightly so -- please god call me home before the Humperdinckian reappraisal takes place.
― briania, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 12:27 (fifteen years ago) link
Um, "Lesbian Seagull"?
― Dingbod Kesterson, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 12:29 (fifteen years ago) link
(aargh, now posting from beyond the grave)
― briania, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 12:35 (fifteen years ago) link
gay dad terris
― Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 12:44 (fifteen years ago) link
oh wait "popular" ;)
America
― Dingbod Kesterson, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 12:46 (fifteen years ago) link
James Taylor
― Tom D., Tuesday, 13 May 2008 12:48 (fifteen years ago) link
Acker Bilk
― Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 12:50 (fifteen years ago) link
That's Mister Acker Bilk to you.
― briania, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 12:52 (fifteen years ago) link
The Seekers
― Tom D., Tuesday, 13 May 2008 12:53 (fifteen years ago) link
Jim Reeves
― Dom Passantino, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 12:55 (fifteen years ago) link
Anyone hailed as "the new Hendrix" after Hendrix died, viz. Alvin Lee, Robin Trower, Frank Marino.
― Dingbod Kesterson, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 12:56 (fifteen years ago) link
Ditto, sundry new Dylans
― Tom D., Tuesday, 13 May 2008 13:02 (fifteen years ago) link
Roy Harper doesn't get spoken of a lot these days - less than Nick Drake or John Martyn, f'rinstance
― Tom D., Tuesday, 13 May 2008 13:04 (fifteen years ago) link
Three Dog Night
― kornrulez6969, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 13:29 (fifteen years ago) link
Herman's Hermits for the win.
― Mark G, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 13:31 (fifteen years ago) link
Humble Pie, Wishbone Ash, Uriah Heep, Greenslade, Curved Air, Focus, Bad Company.
― mike t-diva, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 13:54 (fifteen years ago) link
I was listening to Focus just this weekend!
― Tom D., Tuesday, 13 May 2008 13:54 (fifteen years ago) link
The Judds
― Euler, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 14:03 (fifteen years ago) link
-- kornrulez6969, Tuesday, May 13, 2008 8:29 AM (35 minutes ago) Bookmark Link
^^^
― will, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 14:07 (fifteen years ago) link
first thing i thought of when i saw this thread
Lloyd Cole
The Commotions
― the pinefox, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 14:08 (fifteen years ago) link
Deacon Blue
The Judds Good one -- they're like notch-babies, slipping thru between the before and after. They weren't minor artists by any means -- I was reading some mid-80s Country Music mags recently that put their hugeness into perspective. Bet they scored high with Pazz & Jop types, too. Maybe Wynonna's inability to score equally huge solo chipped away at their retroactive cred.
Pie, Ash, Heep, et al -- those groups still get props from hard-heads. More of a cult for that than for comparable pub-rock acts, I'd say.
― briania, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 14:25 (fifteen years ago) link
Paul Anka
― Hurting 2, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 14:33 (fifteen years ago) link
Nazareth
― henry s, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 14:53 (fifteen years ago) link
Huh, I was listening to Charles Lloyd just last night!
The Kingston Trio were insanely popular from about 1958-62.
― Myonga Vön Bontee, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 14:59 (fifteen years ago) link
I hope the guy above was kidding about Bad Co. Just listen to NYC classic rock radio, and you'll hear them at least 5 times a day.
― Bill Magill, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 15:03 (fifteen years ago) link
Mott The Hoople?
― henry s, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 15:07 (fifteen years ago) link
No way
― Tom D., Tuesday, 13 May 2008 15:08 (fifteen years ago) link
Carter the Unstoppable Sex Machine...
― Mark G, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 15:13 (fifteen years ago) link
Gaye Bykers On Acid Zodiac Mindwarp
― Tom D., Tuesday, 13 May 2008 15:14 (fifteen years ago) link
BUT everyone loves Zodie!
Deacon Blue were popular, but they weren't popular with the people who write canonical history. kind of like Simply Red.
― The Real Dirty Vicar, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 15:45 (fifteen years ago) link
Suzanne Vega maybe?
― Oilyrags, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 15:46 (fifteen years ago) link
Does anyone care about The KLF anymore?
― Tom D., Tuesday, 13 May 2008 15:47 (fifteen years ago) link
George Michael will soon be an answer to this.
― Joseph McCombs, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 16:01 (fifteen years ago) link
Outhere Brothers, a textbook example here.
― Bodrick III, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 16:03 (fifteen years ago) link
Alabama
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 16:04 (fifteen years ago) link
Moody Blues
everything Felix Pappalardi was involved in
― Billy Pilgrim, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 16:07 (fifteen years ago) link
someone mentioned Steve Winwood: Traffic
― Billy Pilgrim, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 16:08 (fifteen years ago) link
Dunno that they are ignored. His solo stuff is.
― Tom D., Tuesday, 13 May 2008 16:11 (fifteen years ago) link
Alfred OTM on Alabama: I have their For The Record: 41 Number One Hits 2-cd set, and if that's right, that's a staggeringly successful run (the Judds had something like 13 straight number ones for comparison). Yet they don't come up much these days.
Lionel Richie also comes to mind here.
― Euler, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 16:14 (fifteen years ago) link
Gary Lewis and the Playboys. 17 top 40 hits!
― Sara Sara Sara, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 16:19 (fifteen years ago) link
If you listened to the radio, you would think BOC had at most three songs in their catalog, when in reality those songs are not representative of how great they were. So I nominate them.
― Bill Magill, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 16:26 (fifteen years ago) link
barbara mandrell
― M@tt He1ges0n, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 16:27 (fifteen years ago) link
Yeah, (Never Mind The Bollocks) had Elton John's producers on it iirc. xp
Bill Price had produced one album by Welsh band Racing Cars, and went on to produce The Cost Of Living EP and record & engineer London Calling and Sandinista (and, eventually, do all the Clash's various remasters with Mick); Chris Thomas had produced for Procul Harum and Badfinger, mixed Dark Side Of The Moon, played keyboards & ghost-produced on The White Album, and programmed Moog for Elton on his second album.
― erratic wolf angular guitarist (sic), Tuesday, 18 August 2020 19:31 (three years ago) link
and went on to produce The Cost Of Living EP
While I never entirely understood the complaints against Pearlman's production on Give 'Em Enough Rope, Price gets a far larger, and much more immediate, sound on "I Fought The Law."
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 18 August 2020 19:39 (three years ago) link
Ah, thanks. I had known the details at one time.xp
― magnet of the elk park (Sund4r), Tuesday, 18 August 2020 19:39 (three years ago) link
Chris Thomas had produced for Procul Harum and Badfinger
And the peak Roxy Music albums, For Your Pleasure through Siren!
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 18 August 2020 19:42 (three years ago) link
Wondered how Elton’s name got in there.
― Isinglass Ponys (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 18 August 2020 19:43 (three years ago) link
Meant to include Roxy Music as one of Thomas' repeat production clients, too.
― erratic wolf angular guitarist (sic), Tuesday, 18 August 2020 19:44 (three years ago) link
xp!
Barack Obama has War’s “All Day Music” on his 2020 Summer Playlist. Case closed, I guess.
― No mean feat. DaBaby (breastcrawl), Tuesday, 18 August 2020 19:47 (three years ago) link
All this talk about The Alarm, and no mention of The Poppy Fields? Thought it was a pretty good stunt...
In an interview with BBC News Online, Mike Peters said "The Alarm, most famous for their 1983 hit '68 Guns', were not always taken seriously by DJs" because of a combination of the age of the band's members and a perception that their image was outdated. Peters said, "The Alarm as an entity have been going for 20-odd years and history can go against you – we wanted to break the barrier down." He continued by saying that "The Alarm members wanted to stir up the water a little bit, break the mould" and have the song judged on its own merits and musical value, instead of judgement being based on the perception of the band. Peters told The Guardian: "We noticed that a lot of bands suffer when they attempt comebacks because people generally don't believe they can ever be as good as they once were. We wanted to make sure we are judged purely on the strength of the music, and not by our old hairstyles."With The Alarm's decision to perpetrate the hoax, Mike Peters gained the cooperation of a group of young musicians from Chester called the Wayriders to lip-sync The Alarm's material and pass it off as their own. The first release by the fictitious band was promoted as a cover of The Alarm's 1983 hit, "68 Guns". In fact it was The Alarm all along, and instead of a cover, it was a re-released version. The demo enticed executives in music production to record an album from the band called In The Poppy Fields which saw its advance release of the single, "45 RPM" entering Britain's top 30 chart. Critical reviews of the band echoed the promoters' official introduction of the band as a tribute to bands like Sex Pistols, and The Clash, with even more modern acts like Rancid being compared. The truth of the song's origin was not revealed until after the song entered the charts at number 24, a credit originally earned by The Poppy Fields from unsuspecting patrons who had accepted the act as fresh and new
With The Alarm's decision to perpetrate the hoax, Mike Peters gained the cooperation of a group of young musicians from Chester called the Wayriders to lip-sync The Alarm's material and pass it off as their own. The first release by the fictitious band was promoted as a cover of The Alarm's 1983 hit, "68 Guns". In fact it was The Alarm all along, and instead of a cover, it was a re-released version. The demo enticed executives in music production to record an album from the band called In The Poppy Fields which saw its advance release of the single, "45 RPM" entering Britain's top 30 chart. Critical reviews of the band echoed the promoters' official introduction of the band as a tribute to bands like Sex Pistols, and The Clash, with even more modern acts like Rancid being compared. The truth of the song's origin was not revealed until after the song entered the charts at number 24, a credit originally earned by The Poppy Fields from unsuspecting patrons who had accepted the act as fresh and new
― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 19 August 2020 00:16 (three years ago) link
True story: so I heard "Rain in the Summertime" a few times on the radio around 1987 and was mildly surprised when I got The Joshua Tree and it wasn't on there. Then I found out.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 19 August 2020 02:55 (three years ago) link
And INXS!!
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 19 August 2020 03:07 (three years ago) link
Not until a decade later, though.
― erratic wolf angular guitarist (sic), Wednesday, 19 August 2020 05:21 (three years ago) link
Later on, The Alarm dude did this with a pop punk song no better or worse than his glory-ish days output.
In February 2004, Peters' new line-up of Alarm MM++ carried out a hoax on the British music industry by issuing "45 RPM" under the fictitious name The Poppy Fields. Peters, having garnered positive feedback for the song, decided to disassociate it from his veteran band to have it judged on its own merits, and recruited a young Welsh group called the Wayriders to lip-sync the song in the video.[4] The so-called Poppy Fields took "45 RPM" into the UK Top 30 before the hoax was revealed, setting the stage for the album In the Poppy Fields.
― Julius Caesar Memento Hoodie (bendy), Wednesday, 19 August 2020 18:12 (three years ago) link
How many times did he successfully pull off this "45 RPM" by The Poppy Fields as played by The Wayriders hoax?!
― erratic wolf angular guitarist (sic), Wednesday, 19 August 2020 18:18 (three years ago) link
you tell me...
― "45 RPM" by The Poppy Fields (The Yellow Kid), Wednesday, 19 August 2020 18:42 (three years ago) link
Hearing good things about this new band on Yellow Kid Records tbh
― erratic wolf angular guitarist (sic), Wednesday, 19 August 2020 18:59 (three years ago) link
Isn't that trick (a younger more photogenic band miming to a track by oldsters) used in the video for Blues Traveler's "Run-Around"?
― all we are is durst in the wind (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 19 August 2020 19:04 (three years ago) link
also The Killers in the video for Crystal by New Order. actively pretending to be a non-existent band on the release is a different thing though
― erratic wolf angular guitarist (sic), Wednesday, 19 August 2020 19:35 (three years ago) link
It's used quite often:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbrtS8E0kpY
― but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 19 August 2020 19:36 (three years ago) link
Paul Revere and the Raiders― Cunga, Tuesday, May 13, 2008 2:19 PM (twelve years ago)Paul Revere & the Raiders― dracula et son fils (morrisp), Monday, October 28, 2019 10:54 AM (ten months ago)
― Cunga, Tuesday, May 13, 2008 2:19 PM (twelve years ago)
Paul Revere & the Raiders
― dracula et son fils (morrisp), Monday, October 28, 2019 10:54 AM (ten months ago)
this too, if maybe mostly for sheer quantity
Manfred Mann― dracula et son fils (morrisp), Monday, October 28, 2019 9:32 PM (ten months ago)
― dracula et son fils (morrisp), Monday, October 28, 2019 9:32 PM (ten months ago)
― mookieproof, Sunday, 6 September 2020 00:54 (three years ago) link