I think Mondeo Pop is more of an aesthetic than ledge would have it. It's not always what Soto and co would call Sophisto-Pop but it is similar. I don't think Sade, who epitomizes Sophisto-pop is Mondeo Pop at all but The Beautiful South are the kings of Mondeo Pop and they are not Sophisto-pop. It is a style that takes inspiration from the hot indie sounds of a few years prior and makes it a bit classier.
― acrobat, Tuesday, 28 August 2007 13:56 (sixteen years ago) link
http://www.fordmondeo.org/gallery/data/500/medium/DSCF4260_Small_2.JPG
James - Sit Down '98
― acrobat, Tuesday, 28 August 2007 15:02 (sixteen years ago) link
I think Heaton is quite an interesting character, and for a year or two in the mid-80s I was quite a fan of the Housemartins. I still quite like things like 'Flag Day' or 'Build' and I think he was a touching singer once upon a time. I suppose the bloozy Radio 2 sound of the BS is the sound of Heaton forgetting Marx and forgetting Jesus and forgetting Hope and discovering beer and boredom and bitterness. He seemed to despise everything about pop music and life, but somehow became incredibly successful from doing so. You would think this would make for an interesting tension in the music, but it doesn't seem to have done.
The Beautiful South vs Simply Red as a post-socialist, pre-Blairite battle for the suburban car stereo of Mondeo Man is a topic worthy of Robin Carmody, though.
-- Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Monday, August 18, 2003 8:52 AM (4 years ago) Defend The Indefensible: The Beautiful South
He was pretty good, that JtN geezer...
― Stevie T, Tuesday, 28 August 2007 15:34 (sixteen years ago) link
the mondeo was only launched in 1993 but the many of the quintessential mondeo pop tunes predate this. i did not realize that yacht rock was actually a tv show. if mondeo pop was a narrative based television progam the main protagonist would have to be paul heaton.
― acrobat, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 10:10 (sixteen years ago) link
paved the way for schaffel
― blueski, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 10:33 (sixteen years ago) link
Isn't Mondeo Pop just chart indie with a mortgage?
― Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 13:23 (sixteen years ago) link
Mondeo Pop Or Not:
Dubstar Crowded House The Lightning Seeds Alisha's Attic Badly Drawn Boy Delays
― Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 13:26 (sixteen years ago) link
Deacon Blue were named after a Steely Dan song, fyi, so there's your Yacht Rock/Mondeo Pop link.
― Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 13:31 (sixteen years ago) link
Dubstar NO Crowded House YES The Lightning Seeds SOMETIMES Alisha's Attic NO Badly Drawn Boy SOMETIMES Delays BIG NO
― acrobat, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 13:36 (sixteen years ago) link
"Not So Manic Now" isn't Mondeo Pop? That song got rinsed on local radio back in the day.
― Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 13:39 (sixteen years ago) link
So not Mondeo Pop. There are many factors. Local radio play is but one. I do not know all the factors.
― acrobat, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 13:46 (sixteen years ago) link
The other factor is Soul. Mondeo Pop is not soul but must have a soul element, I think. Wet Wet Wet are overlooked but crucial. In fact Mondeo Pop is fundamentally anti-rockist, maybe not in a 1986 sense but certianly in a 1996 or 2006 sense.
― acrobat, Friday, 31 August 2007 11:30 (sixteen years ago) link
Crowded House have a soul element? Someone ain't gonna like that
― DJ Mencap, Friday, 31 August 2007 11:44 (sixteen years ago) link
i was thinking about Wet Wet Wet the other day and how long it's been since they could NOT have happened...if that makes sense.
― blueski, Friday, 31 August 2007 12:10 (sixteen years ago) link
Dubstar = Micra Pop
― blueski, Friday, 31 August 2007 12:11 (sixteen years ago) link
I think you should think more about Wet Wet Wet, blueski.
― acrobat, Friday, 31 August 2007 13:09 (sixteen years ago) link
Almost pinefoxian.
Today I came home from the supermarket and snapped the radio on, and heard the opening of 'Wishing I Was Lucky'. And I liked it - it must be my favourite of their numbers; it has poise and dash; despite all the gymnasium of the soul business, when those travelling strings start to accompany Pellow halfway through an early verse, they bear grace.
― blueski, Friday, 31 August 2007 13:24 (sixteen years ago) link
Crowded House are more Volvo or Audi (A4 not TT) than Mondeo surely, just feel the restrained quality of them.
― Billy Dods, Friday, 31 August 2007 13:32 (sixteen years ago) link
Crowded House are a bit of a red herring because they're not British. Mondeo Pop is part of a clear era in British history where the concept of "the left" was being invented.
― Dom Passantino, Friday, 31 August 2007 13:47 (sixteen years ago) link
Paul Young's cover of 'Don't Dream It's Over' = ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM
― blueski, Friday, 31 August 2007 13:58 (sixteen years ago) link
What "left" are you talking about, Dom?
The Style Council and Haircut 100 seem too early but still important. The journey of Weller is a good narrative. I don't think Weller could ever be Mondeo Pop. The Mondeo was only introduced in 1993, what model did it replace?
If blueski made that up it is very good. The bit about Wet Wet Wet.
― acrobat, Friday, 31 August 2007 13:59 (sixteen years ago) link
The Mondeo was only introduced in 1993, what model did it replace?
the Sierra, for all you fly fellas
― blueski, Friday, 31 August 2007 14:00 (sixteen years ago) link
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=4967664204
― Dom Passantino, Friday, 31 August 2007 14:02 (sixteen years ago) link
Loose upper working/lower middle Labour voters. The Hornby generation.
― Dom Passantino, Friday, 31 August 2007 14:03 (sixteen years ago) link
Although Hornby himself would obviously detest the music here. See also Big Al Petridis's weekly "the businessman, in his suit-and-tie" rhetoric in Graun reviews.
Is Princess Diana Mondeo Pop?
― acrobat, Friday, 31 August 2007 14:09 (sixteen years ago) link
Kanye: not Mondeo Pop Rod Stewart: not Mondeo Pop Lallen: not Mondeo Pop Duran Duran: Maybe Mondeo Pop Elton John: not Mondeo Pop Joss Stone: not Mondeo Pop Pharrell: not Mondeo Pop
Princess Di officially NOT MONDEO POP
― Dom Passantino, Friday, 31 August 2007 14:12 (sixteen years ago) link
I think Ordinary World by Duran Duran could be Mondeo Pop.
― acrobat, Friday, 31 August 2007 14:13 (sixteen years ago) link
I'd agree with that.
Is "Sleeping Satellites" Mondeo Pop? Can women, other than the ones Paul Heaton gives blacks eyes to in drunken rages, be Mondeo Pop?
― Dom Passantino, Friday, 31 August 2007 14:16 (sixteen years ago) link
What about Morcheeba? Didn't they even do a Mondeo ad?
― tissp, Friday, 31 August 2007 14:19 (sixteen years ago) link
My line manager just came over to me. He asked "What are you listening to?". I said "Steely Dan". He said "Do you like Fleetwood Mac?".
If I was playing a Mondeo Pop set I think "Sleeping Satellite" would be in there. I'd like to suggest REM.
― acrobat, Friday, 31 August 2007 14:19 (sixteen years ago) link
Pre-Zooropa, were U2 Mondeo Pop?
― Dom Passantino, Friday, 31 August 2007 14:20 (sixteen years ago) link
I don't think U2 have ever been Mondeo Pop. I am not sure about The Lightouse Family.
ledge, I don't think Morcheeba are Mondeo Pop, Micra Pop? Maybe?
― acrobat, Friday, 31 August 2007 14:23 (sixteen years ago) link
I guess maybe U2 were bought by Mondeo Popists to feel a bit edgy (no pun etc) and REM to feel a bit alt-rock? Operative word 'guess'
― DJ Mencap, Friday, 31 August 2007 14:24 (sixteen years ago) link
Morcheeba = Ka Pop
― blueski, Friday, 31 August 2007 14:26 (sixteen years ago) link
That is possibly patronizing DJ Mencap. Though I realize my whole premise is, really. I'm not sure these people actually exist though. I wonder what people who make Mondeo Pop drive? Do Yacht Poppers drive Yachts?
― acrobat, Friday, 31 August 2007 14:30 (sixteen years ago) link
Tanita Tikaram Des'Ree The Lighthouse Family must surely be. Fairground Attraction OCS The Bluetones
It strikes me that I've never heard anything by Runrig.
― William Bloody Swygart, Friday, 31 August 2007 14:36 (sixteen years ago) link
Elephant in the room #2: The Waterboys
― Dom Passantino, Friday, 31 August 2007 14:38 (sixteen years ago) link
'have a nice day' by the stereophonics
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Friday, 31 August 2007 14:40 (sixteen years ago) link
"Traffic" by the Stereophonics, yes. "HAND", maybe not.
The Supernaturals?
― Dom Passantino, Friday, 31 August 2007 14:42 (sixteen years ago) link
OCS = dadrock, but then dads drive mondeos. Everything I think of is too early (Big Country?)
― ledge, Friday, 31 August 2007 14:45 (sixteen years ago) link
as i said earlier - everything that has been branded as mondeo pop gets airspace on the dreary dermot o'leary show. i have had to endure the show in recent weeks, and damn, its painful.
― mark e, Friday, 31 August 2007 14:46 (sixteen years ago) link
Important distinction to be made: Cosworth Rock - Clarkson's vehicle and music of choice in the mid-late 90s.
― blueski, Friday, 31 August 2007 14:47 (sixteen years ago) link
Clarkson's taste in rock is actually a little closer to Yacht Rock than Mondeo Pop. Aren't his favourite band ever Air Supply?
― Dom Passantino, Friday, 31 August 2007 14:48 (sixteen years ago) link
Electronic The Blow Monkeys Hothouse Flowers Talk Talk The Wannadies (controversial suggestion)
― Dom Passantino, Friday, 31 August 2007 14:51 (sixteen years ago) link
The Wannadies were Mondeo Pop Jr
I think suggesting the likes of Ocean Colour Scene is rather off base. The one thing that is great about good Mondeo Pop is it's sprightliness, it has a bounce and jangle, a certain jouissance soerly lacking in its post Britpop equivilant.
― acrobat, Friday, 31 August 2007 14:55 (sixteen years ago) link
if going before '93 doesn't damage cred: Red Box
― blueski, Friday, 31 August 2007 15:05 (sixteen years ago) link
lololl TALK TALK, i was gonna say...
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Friday, 31 August 2007 15:08 (sixteen years ago) link
"kudos guys"
Ha ha you wish. This would surely be SR's top ten most hated "loonies getting loonier" thread.
― Tim F, Monday, 22 October 2007 00:16 (sixteen years ago) link
Reynolds will come around to Danny Wilson in time.
― Dom Passantino, Monday, 22 October 2007 08:23 (sixteen years ago) link
Virgin Radio still has a lot of Deacon Blue on its daytime playlist
― Dom Passantino, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 09:29 (sixteen years ago) link
So is someone gonna compile the Mondeo Pop rough guide?
― admrl, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 15:58 (sixteen years ago) link
Also this thread has made me feel like listening to Dubstar (I used to drive a micra)!
Counting Crows. Mondeo, yes?
― Noodle Vague, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 16:57 (sixteen years ago) link
^^^My job for this evening
― Dom Passantino, Sunday, 11 November 2007 17:42 (sixteen years ago) link
Public response: MEH.
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Sunday, 11 November 2007 17:48 (sixteen years ago) link
Public response: Dom, you're one of those guys who whines that people are better/fitter/more networked/richer than you as if there is a vast metropolitan conspiracy against your sorry, provincial, undervalued arse. Your solution: the only way to become memorable is to be hateful. Public response: MEH. When they find you as a pensioner, freeze-dried to a chair three months after your lonely death, wearing a bathrobe and dried remnants of excreta, and with more unpublish/ed/able work than Colin Wilson to burn off, nobody who was here will be very surprised AT ALL.
― Dom Passantino, Sunday, 11 November 2007 17:49 (sixteen years ago) link
"Hooray for middlebrow" says Simon Reynolds in "Bring the Noise". Is Mondeo Pop the logical conclusion of what he's desperately groping about for over the course of his writings, the spark he tries and fails to find in dancehall, rave, and grime?
― Dom Passantino, Monday, 12 November 2007 10:49 (sixteen years ago) link
His problems with homophobia in dancehall are similar to the problems Mondeo Pop fans have with the misogyny of the Beautiful South, but in the end we have to overlook these things to appreciate an overall beauty of product.
― Dom Passantino, Monday, 12 November 2007 10:53 (sixteen years ago) link
Birthplace of Mondeo Pop?: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JJ7oGHwMTI
― Dom Passantino, Sunday, 9 December 2007 13:52 (sixteen years ago) link
Fiction Factory.
― Dom Passantino, Tuesday, 22 April 2008 12:51 (fifteen years ago) link
has balearic stolen mondeo's thunder?
― FREE DOM AND ETHAN (special guest stars mark bronson), Sunday, 19 April 2009 18:38 (fourteen years ago) link
One of the songs on the new Paul Heaton album has a 60-second burst of what seems to be the big man's attempt at 'rave music', which I found to be one of the more upsetting things I've listened to in 2010 so far.
― Melodic Man - I Need Geir (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 12 August 2010 14:49 (thirteen years ago) link
Were Microdisney Mondeo Pop y/n
― that is how ghosts laugh (bends), Saturday, 28 September 2013 20:36 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jq_F0SKFHHo
― that is how ghosts laugh (bends), Saturday, 28 September 2013 20:37 (ten years ago) link
related videos of the youtube page for 'Town to Town' by Microdisney:Curiosity Killed the Cat- Down to EarthThe Commitments- Mustang SallyNew Order- True FaithChina Crisis- Wishful ThinkingPhil Lynott- Old Town
― that is how ghosts laugh (bends), Saturday, 28 September 2013 20:47 (ten years ago) link
Feel like Car Share - specifically the episode that ended with "Oh Patti" - is, in a funny way, the apotheosis of Mondeo Pop.
― Stevie T, Tuesday, 18 April 2017 19:28 (six years ago) link
Save Tonight is The Passenger if the vehicle in question was a, well
― you can see me from westbury white horse, Wednesday, 20 September 2023 01:52 (six months ago) link