No, and I have no idea how you came to that conclusion. Is English not your first language?
a musical movement which held that any pretentious, half-assed nonsense you concocted in the studio was worthy of release, as long as the final mix had been fed through a flanger.
uh, i'm just feeding back what you wrote
― JaXoN (JasonD), Thursday, 4 November 2004 18:47 (nineteen years ago) link
1. Most (although not all) of the records that fall in to the genre known as "psychedelic" are really terrible.2. In any case, T.O.N.T.O.'s music can not be described as "psychedelic" (even if the sleeve art can).
― Palomino (Palomino), Thursday, 4 November 2004 20:04 (nineteen years ago) link
― JaXoN (JasonD), Thursday, 4 November 2004 20:09 (nineteen years ago) link
― Palomino (Palomino), Thursday, 4 November 2004 23:02 (nineteen years ago) link
― el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Friday, 5 November 2004 00:28 (nineteen years ago) link
― JaXoN (JasonD), Friday, 5 November 2004 01:01 (nineteen years ago) link
― JaXoN (JasonD), Friday, 5 November 2004 07:46 (nineteen years ago) link
― Palomino (Palomino), Friday, 5 November 2004 12:17 (nineteen years ago) link
Which is exactly why we love it - except the above is a more accurate description of Krautrock... which we love even more
― Soon Over Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 5 November 2004 12:22 (nineteen years ago) link
― Palomino (Palomino), Friday, 5 November 2004 12:35 (nineteen years ago) link
― Soon Over Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 5 November 2004 12:37 (nineteen years ago) link
― el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Friday, 5 November 2004 12:48 (nineteen years ago) link
― Palomino (Palomino), Friday, 5 November 2004 12:59 (nineteen years ago) link
Actually, I quite like much of Karoli's contribution to Can. When I refer to "half-assed psychedelia", I'm talking about dire poetry by Tolkien obsessives, interminable feedback experiments, and recordings of acid casualties groaning wordlessly into echo machines while accomplices pluck at untuned sitars. It's everybody else's prerogative to love that kind of stuff, just as it is mine to describe it as "terrible". All I originally came here to say was that I strongly disagreed with the characterisation of T.O.N.T.O. as "psychedelic music".
― Palomino (Palomino), Friday, 5 November 2004 13:07 (nineteen years ago) link
Those all sound good to me
― Soon Over Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 5 November 2004 13:08 (nineteen years ago) link
― *@*.* (gareth), Friday, 5 November 2004 13:11 (nineteen years ago) link
That's okay. Am I allowed to say they don't sound good to me?
― Palomino (Palomino), Friday, 5 November 2004 13:12 (nineteen years ago) link
― Soon Over Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 5 November 2004 13:13 (nineteen years ago) link
you're right, i should be cool like you and make unsupportable arguments about music i have very little knowledge of. and i'm not the one who thinks he's being pithy or intelligent here.
[...]shut up.
no.
― el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Friday, 5 November 2004 13:14 (nineteen years ago) link
― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 5 November 2004 13:20 (nineteen years ago) link
― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 5 November 2004 13:24 (nineteen years ago) link
― JaXoN (JasonD), Friday, 5 November 2004 17:44 (nineteen years ago) link
― Maria D. (Maria D.), Friday, 5 November 2004 18:20 (nineteen years ago) link
― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 5 November 2004 18:22 (nineteen years ago) link
― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 5 November 2004 18:27 (nineteen years ago) link
Actually, you're right, and I want to apologise.
I expressed myself poorly to begin with and then kept digging. What I was really trying to say was that I had observed that a lot of music produced under the banner of psychedelia was the product of charlatans and bandwagon-hoppers. But of course, that's true of any genre of music, and to have suggested that insincerity and incompetence are the defining characteristics of psychedelia was completely unfair. Lots of it is very fine: I love stuff like Arnold Layne and In the Court of the Crimson King.
Thanks to Scott for throwing me a line. Some interesting-sounding suggestions from your contributors in there that I'll have a look for, although the list does go to show that one man's psychedelic freak-out can be another man's mildly-trippy rock anthem.
― Palomino (Palomino), Friday, 5 November 2004 19:18 (nineteen years ago) link
gareth, I'm telling, you: Emil Richards - Stones: New Sound Element
― (Jon L), Friday, 5 November 2004 19:22 (nineteen years ago) link
― briania (briania), Friday, 5 November 2004 19:33 (nineteen years ago) link
Touch is my favorite out of all his records. But all his records are great through the seventies: Cloudless Sulfur, 4 Butterflies, Until Spring.
― (Jon L), Friday, 5 November 2004 19:44 (nineteen years ago) link
i should check out more subotnick
not enough electronicy stuff is hippyish.
i dream of big sur, though, i think i dont like california so much, after all.
― *@*.* (gareth), Friday, 5 November 2004 22:23 (nineteen years ago) link
― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 5 November 2004 22:30 (nineteen years ago) link
Joe Byrd & The Field Hippies were! They even said so. I consider both U.S.A. & White Noise pretty hippyish.
― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 5 November 2004 22:32 (nineteen years ago) link
i just heard a few mp3s and tried to buy it on ebay for 10$ (GOT FUCKING SWIPED 5 SECONDS TILL THE END!!) but that record is fucking great. weird, hippy, pop songs over synth noise.
― JaXoN (JasonD), Friday, 5 November 2004 22:42 (nineteen years ago) link
i was in jaXoNs house recently, i saw gal costa records, but not mort garson, were you hiding them?
― *@*.* (gareth), Friday, 5 November 2004 23:01 (nineteen years ago) link
― *@*.* (gareth), Friday, 5 November 2004 23:02 (nineteen years ago) link
― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 5 November 2004 23:31 (nineteen years ago) link
― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 5 November 2004 23:33 (nineteen years ago) link
― doomie x, Friday, 5 November 2004 23:39 (nineteen years ago) link
i got into walter through cherrystones. he's in a band called PREY with barry 7 ... check out what he said about walter sear
It was madnesss recording an album in New York. We did it down at Walter Seer's studio and he is like an American version of Joe Meek. He recorded the Copper Plated Intergrated Circuit album. Walter is an absolute nut. He would tell us all these mad stories about the studio. He used to do the soundtracks from horror or mondo films from the 70s. The soundtracks were so demented. Very weird people. Walter and his secretary Roberta Finchley. Roberta used to direct all the porn films. She had these shoulders hunched up to her ears and always would greet me as Mr Godsey. Before we left they let us take all these porn movie posters with John Holmes on them and what not. It was great.
They said that the studio was haunted as well, that was one of the reasons we went there. It was the last studio that John Lennon was in before he was shot. And he told us some stories about Mobb Deep and D'Angelo that I really can't relate for legal reasons but they are amazing. Very weird and amazing experience.
― doomie x, Friday, 5 November 2004 23:43 (nineteen years ago) link
― doomie x, Friday, 5 November 2004 23:46 (nineteen years ago) link
http://members.aol.com/searsound/articles2.html
http://www.basichip.com/digitalgold/mp3002b/sear.jpg
http://www.basichip.com/digitalgold/mp3002b/mp3002b.htm
― (Jon L), Friday, 5 November 2004 23:54 (nineteen years ago) link
― doomie x, Friday, 5 November 2004 23:56 (nineteen years ago) link
i'd like to hear this sears/circuit stuff, and i wont say no to any copies of anything!
there is a church in reno that has the most amazing church bells, i think i want a record of that more than anything. it was like a fake version of russian bells, but maybe it wasnt, it was its own thing. its the best sound ive heard since the train station tannoy in calais. have you been to reno?
i need to give costa a go. last time i played a lot of gal costa, i was all into marcos valle, and preferrred him, maybe i wont this time out
― *@*.* (gareth), Friday, 5 November 2004 23:57 (nineteen years ago) link
― doomie x, Friday, 5 November 2004 23:59 (nineteen years ago) link
― *@*.* (gareth), Saturday, 6 November 2004 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link
― *@*.* (gareth), Saturday, 6 November 2004 00:01 (nineteen years ago) link
― doomie x, Saturday, 6 November 2004 00:03 (nineteen years ago) link
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― doomie x, Saturday, 6 November 2004 00:08 (nineteen years ago) link
― *@*.* (gareth), Thursday, 11 November 2004 09:52 (nineteen years ago) link
i spent the day yesterday interviewing joey stec. i felt bad because i was really interested in curt boettcher.
― doomie x, Thursday, 11 November 2004 10:11 (nineteen years ago) link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35PzjP4wgWs
Didn't You Hear?
― Hello Everyone!, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 10:43 (fifteen years ago) link
I didn't know either. RIP.
It might not be cool or suitably appreciative of the man's diverse talent to single out the big weepy song, but Big Sur from the Wozard of Iz turns my nervous system inside out every time.
― a passing spacecadet, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 11:02 (fifteen years ago) link
This is some great post-Exorcist shit right here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ur4JFH-rJM
― Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 17 June 2010 01:50 (thirteen years ago) link
That self-titled Head LP by Raicevic on Buddah is crucial.― Dave Segal (Da ve Segal)
Yes it is, and we have a reissue now.https://www.discogs.com/107-34-8933-Numbers/master/544949
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umiE2B8ODYI
― Wes Brodicus, Tuesday, 24 April 2018 03:51 (six years ago) link
https://www.bbg.org/visit/event/plantasiajust came from this; was fun to listen to the album nice and crisp while walking inside a massive greenhouse.Sacred Bones is aiming to release the complete Garson catalogue over the next few years; they're working with his family so it sounds like it might even happen!https://www.sacredbonesrecords.com/collections/frontpage/products/sbr3030-mort-garson-mother-earths-plantasia
BK Botanic Garden had Garson's original moog on displayhttp://i.imgur.com/rSlyPJl.jpg
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 18 June 2019 23:45 (four years ago) link
Ugggghhhh wish I knew about this
― Evan, Thursday, 20 June 2019 19:42 (four years ago) link
Been thinking his stuff badly needs re-issuing.
― Orpheus Knutt (Tom D.), Thursday, 20 June 2019 19:44 (four years ago) link
Imminent Plantasia reissue here: https://mortgarson.bandcamp.com/album/mother-earths-plantasia
― screator, Friday, 21 June 2019 00:54 (four years ago) link
I didn't really know much about this guy until hearing a few albums of his at work in the last year. We got the reissue of Plantasia in and I ended up picking it up. I can feel this album is going to be my new obsession.
― kitchen person, Sunday, 23 June 2019 15:01 (four years ago) link
Your wish is Sacred Bones's command:
https://mortgarson.bandcamp.com/album/didnt-you-hear
https://mortgarson.bandcamp.com/album/music-from-patch-cord-productions
This second one appears to be unreleased/little hard 70s recordings, the first is a straight up reissue of an obscure soundtrack "originally available only in the lobby of the theater at screenings of the movie in Seattle" per the liners.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 28 July 2020 15:49 (three years ago) link
Little heard not little hard but maybe both.
Also, apparently vinyl-only (maybe?) runs of Lucifer's Black Mass and Ataraxia's The Unexplained, though maybe other services/labels are handling digital.
https://www.sacredbonesrecords.com/products/sbr3033-lucifer-black-mass
https://www.sacredbonesrecords.com/products/sbr3034-ataraxia-the-unexplained
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 28 July 2020 16:25 (three years ago) link
looks like these will be on spotify too!
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 28 July 2020 16:58 (three years ago) link
oh man, this alternate take of "African Violet" - always one of my fave Garson tracks - is really everythinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLrnfsbpTH4
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 15 September 2020 17:43 (three years ago) link
btw, this is prob worth buyinghttps://www.sacredbonesrecords.com/products/music-from-patch-cord-productions-t-shirt
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 15 September 2020 17:46 (three years ago) link
Hadn't seen this thread before---speaking of Bernie Krause, he dispenses just enough shadowy particles all around ill wind guitar on The Link Wray Rumble, US issue Polydor – PD 6025: one of my all-time faves, never on legit CD, although some of it was reissued on the Link comp Guitar Preacher, and maybe all of it could be a YouTube playlist from time to time (found some in his remarkable archive.org stash too). Krause's moments def. quality over quantity.
― dow, Tuesday, 15 September 2020 20:38 (three years ago) link
Oh my god, this track is *incredible*. Breaking my heart at the moment, in the best way. Feels almost like if Mort Garson had collaborated with Paul Williams (if Paul Williams were a better singer).
https://mortgarson.bandcamp.com/track/didnt-you-hear
― Soundslike, Wednesday, 16 September 2020 09:06 (three years ago) link
brewdog advert
― conrad, Tuesday, 12 October 2021 20:15 (two years ago) link
New archival release!
https://mortgarson.bandcamp.com/album/journey-to-the-moon-and-beyond
And get this!
The crown jewel of the set is no doubt Garson’s soundtrack to the live broadcast of the 1969 Apollo 11 moon landing, as first heard on CBS News. That’s one small step for man, one giant leap for Moogkind. But for decades, this audio was presumed lost, the only trace of it appearing to be from an old YouTube clip. Thankfully, diligent audio archivist Andy Zax came across a copy of the master tape while going through the massive Rod McKuen archive. So now we get to hear it in all its glory. Across six minutes, Garson conjures broad fantasias, whirring mooncraft sounds, zero-gravity squelches, and twinkling études. It showcases Mort’s many moods: sweet, exploratory, whimsical, a little bit corny, weaving it all together in a glorious whole.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 7 June 2023 16:22 (ten months ago) link
I...did not expect this:
https://mortgarson.bandcamp.com/album/disco-ufo
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 14 November 2023 17:08 (five months ago) link