Insane Clown Posse Fans. No, they really do exist, BITCH. My question is.....WHY, JUGGALOS!?

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― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Monday, 13 September 2004 17:59 (nineteen years ago) link

Actually, I would avoid _Carnival of Carnage_ like it was a plague-riddled leper.

― Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Monday, 13 September 2004 18:16 (nineteen years ago) link

x-post
This was the album I had. I wanted to make sure I didn't just imagine it.

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Insane Clown Posse
Carnival of Carnage
Rating ***
1992
Review
by Stephen Thomas Erlewine
The Insane Clown Posse introduced themselves to the world (well, at least Detroit) with their debut album, Carnival of Carnage. It pretty much spelled out their ludicrous sex'n'drugs'n'crime'n'murder'n'Faygo'n'racism manifesto in no uncertain terms, since subtlety was never part of their agenda. All ICP wants to do is rock the house as if they were a third-rate Beastie Boys supported by a cut-rate Faith No More, all tempered with the sensibility that made GWAR cult heroes -- only with, you know, more sexism and jokes that are supposed to be street, but wind up sounding racist. So, Carnival of Carnage delivers exactly what it promises. If you're down with the ICP -- if you're a juggalo (funny how close that is to "jigaboo," isn't it?) -- you'll find that this album got them off on the right track. If you're not with them, this will certainly give you reasons to hate them.

― AaronHz (AaronHz), Monday, 13 September 2004 18:16 (nineteen years ago) link

The entire reason why ICP works is due to Mike E Clark, who does NOT appear on _Carnival Of Carnage_ (which has two good songs, "Wizard In The Hood" and "Red Neck Hoe", one of which is only "good" because of the sheer audacity in making the hook to your song "Bitch, you's a hoe/And hoe, you's a bitch").

― Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Monday, 13 September 2004 18:21 (nineteen years ago) link

Both _Ringmaster_ and _Riddlebox_ are much, much better.

Strange how this still doesn't make me want to buy any more ICP.

― AaronHz (AaronHz), Monday, 13 September 2004 18:24 (nineteen years ago) link

where the hell do you work? If a coworker tried to talk to me about Slipknot I'd report them to HR and get their asses fired.

― kyle (akmonday), Monday, 13 September 2004 18:26 (nineteen years ago) link

I would check out some of the following songs if possible:

From _Ringmaster_: "Murder Go Round", "Who Are You", "The Dead One", "My Fun House", "The Loons", "Wagon Wagon", "One For The Maggots", "Mr Johnson's Head"

From _Riddlebox_: "The Show Must Go On", "My Toybox", "12", "The Killing Fields", "The Joker's Wild", "I'm Coming Home", "Cemetery Girl", "Three Rings"

― Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Monday, 13 September 2004 18:27 (nineteen years ago) link

Defense, from a non-Juggalo.

ICP had a great track early in their career called "Southwest Ghetto Zone." Generic slanging and banging lyrics about SW Detroit, but the beat sampled the synth line from "Do ya think I'm Sexy" and ripped.

Best lyric: I've got my nine in my gut and its starting to hurt/where can you keep a gat wearing Skidz and a t-shirt."

I think this is when the whole "Wicked Clownz" schtick was in its infancy.

― kaygeebe, Monday, 13 September 2004 22:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I know an otherwise intelligent music mag editor who loves ICP. I have chosen to simply never bring up the subject when we talk.
-- pdf (newyorkisno...), September 13th, 2004.

names, plz!

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Monday, 13 September 2004 22:21 (nineteen years ago) link

initials at least!

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Monday, 13 September 2004 22:22 (nineteen years ago) link

Dave Marsh, step forward!

― briania (briania), Monday, 13 September 2004 23:30 (nineteen years ago) link

are the intials JP?

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 04:42 (nineteen years ago) link

I was just thinking how great it would be for Momus to come forward as a Juggalo on this thread and post a detailed, six paragraph analysis as to why they are in fact better than the Wu-Tang Clan.

― AaronHz (AaronHz), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 05:07 (nineteen years ago) link

I don't know, I didn't mind ICP when they did that thing with Sonic Youth and The Ex...

― Sasha (sgh), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 05:32 (nineteen years ago) link

xpost- haha, I was just going to ask for Darnie11e to appear and defend Slipknot(he really likes them)!

― derrick (derrick), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 05:33 (nineteen years ago) link

exchange in the lunch room last night...
As I'm getting coffee from the vending machine, Jeremy (the ICP/Slipknot fan) comes in to get more fritos.
Under my breath I start singing "I'm just a juggalo/ and everywhere I go/ no-one knows the part I'm playin'/ got a lotta sass/ an' Faygo up my ass..."
at this point he stops me and mutters "David Lee Roth is a Douchebag."
I say "Yeah, he gives me that 'not-so-fresh' feeling too."
Jeremy laughs and goes back down the cow-chute.

So...does all of Roth's post-VH work give you all that 'not-so-fresh' feeling?

― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 12:38 (nineteen years ago) link

>are the intials JP?

Yup.

(He liked Deadsy a lot, too.)

― pdf (Phil Freeman), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 13:45 (nineteen years ago) link

Question for Miccio:
Is there alot of overlap between Limp Bisquick fans and ICP/Slipknot fans?

― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 17:49 (nineteen years ago) link

Because Anthony IS the repository of ALL Limp Bizkit knowledge.

― Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 17:52 (nineteen years ago) link

He's gotta know more than Fred Durst.
Fuck, my SHOEHORN knows more than Fred Durst!

― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 17:55 (nineteen years ago) link

juggaLOLZ

― \(^o^)/ (Adrian Langston), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 07:24 (nineteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

You people are all hilarious in my book. First of all you are all making fun of something that you know little to nothing about. The topic started off as a question about GWAR, Slipknot, Metalica and ICP, if I am not mistaken, but somehow has not intertained either Metalica or Slipknot... not even GWAR anymore but instead has focused on the Insane Clown Posse and you all making fun of them. They have claimed to be the most hated band in the world for about ten years or so and I laugh everytime I get on the net and that is always confirmed, then I laugh even harder because ALL OF YOU that hate them think they actually care. There albums are going gold and platnum, do you really think they care what someone on the net thinks? They (namely Shaggy 2 Dope aka Joey Utsler) told Sharon Osbourne (a giant in the music business) to "buff my pickle" on the Howard stern show and when she said, do you realize who you are talking to they said yeah, we do. She said she would get their videos not played and get them taken out of magazines, but they already arent there. They ain't on MTV or any other show that is mainstream. They have done everything that they have without any help and I respect the hell outta them for that. Before you go posting and making fun of people you should know about them. It takes more talent than you think to listen to their music, yeah, they have a lot of funny songs... but they also have some really deep messages IF YOU LISTEN TO THEM, but as they said themselves... you are either with us of forget us. And as another band from the same label said in a song, "Don't let the others get a taste, and if they start to bump this go and smack 'em in the face... you's a band wagon rider giving Juggalos a bad name, we'll fxck you up for that, this ain't no fxckin game"... also... welll, no, you don't deserve anymore lyrics. I'm done.

― Saint D. Mac, Monday, 11 October 2004 03:30 (nineteen years ago) link

I repent!
I REPENT!!!!!

― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Monday, 11 October 2004 03:38 (nineteen years ago) link

Ooops... I just went back and read the question... I got side tracked myself... why the name Juggalos? You would know if you were a fan, being that you obviously aren't a fan you wouldn't understand. It took me years to understand the clowns and their music. It is something that you will not get from a message board, you will only know why and what that is if you listen with an open ear and dig into every lyric and meaning.

That's it.

Mac

― Saint D. Mac, Monday, 11 October 2004 03:39 (nineteen years ago) link

"All males who like ICP must, by law, have an almost-grown mustache. That kind where it's just starting but you've never shaved before so you just pretend it's not there. "

I wonder: has that poster who revived the thread started shaving his half-grown 'stache yet?

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Monday, 11 October 2004 03:44 (nineteen years ago) link

As a matter of fact I am a 32 year old man, funny question coming from someone that calls themselves "latebloomer" don't you think.

― Saint D. Mac, Monday, 11 October 2004 04:41 (nineteen years ago) link

"It took me years to understand the clowns and their music"

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Monday, 11 October 2004 04:43 (nineteen years ago) link

You quote me for why?

― Saint D. Mac, Monday, 11 October 2004 04:45 (nineteen years ago) link

I have an almost-grown mustache! Can a Colombian be a Juggalo?

― Remy (x Jeremy), Monday, 11 October 2004 04:45 (nineteen years ago) link

if you only understood the true reasons behind my anme. what do you know of me? what makes you think my name means literally what it represents. you undrrstand me like a guppy understands quantum physics my friend.

x-x-post

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Monday, 11 October 2004 04:46 (nineteen years ago) link

Look! http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v208/jcoombs/Picture1.jpg

This is me flying at my computer! I have a big crustache! What if I'm listening to ICP on my Sonys? Am I Colombiaggalo?

― Remy (x Jeremy), Monday, 11 October 2004 04:47 (nineteen years ago) link

HELLO DERE! I WANT TO NO! DO I GET A CODE NAME? LIKE : DeluZional OR HATEFYRE OR XTREMEVXL? I HAVE TWO PEIRCINGS! My FAVORITE JC IS RIDDLE box! We da Juggalo'z we got klazz fuckin wit uz we kik yo azz fo all u fuckaz dat thank yo kool FUCK U NIGGAZ JUGGALO'Z RULE"

AM I NOW?

― Remy (x Jeremy), Monday, 11 October 2004 04:55 (nineteen years ago) link

"It takes more talent than you think to listen to their music"

― AaronHz (AaronHz), Monday, 11 October 2004 04:57 (nineteen years ago) link

Dan Perry really shouldn't post drunk.

― AaronHz (AaronHz), Monday, 11 October 2004 04:58 (nineteen years ago) link

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― Remy (x Jeremy), Monday, 11 October 2004 05:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Shaggy 2 Dope aka Joey Utsler told Sharon Osbourne (a giant in the music business) to "buff my pickle" on the Howard stern show and when she said, do you realize who you are talking to they said yeah, we do. She said she would get their videos not played and get them taken out of magazines, but they already arent there.

This is like a koan; if you meditate upon its meaning, the universe will offer up secrets.

Say it with me.

― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Monday, 11 October 2004 05:08 (nineteen years ago) link

also, xpost:
Cuggalombian?

― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Monday, 11 October 2004 05:09 (nineteen years ago) link

when the next gen ICP fans start their own groups Fred Durst is gonna seem like a really good rapper...

― AaronHz (AaronHz), Monday, 11 October 2004 05:10 (nineteen years ago) link

As a matter of fact I am a 32 year old man, funny question coming from someone that calls themselves "latebloomer" don't you think.

gawd, yer a friggin knucklehead.

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Monday, 11 October 2004 05:12 (nineteen years ago) link

What is the sound of Juggalos rapping?

― AaronHz (AaronHz), Monday, 11 October 2004 05:12 (nineteen years ago) link

Me napping. Hey, that rhymed! Guess I'm alraedy a better rapper tahn both ahlves of ICP combined.

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Monday, 11 October 2004 05:13 (nineteen years ago) link

and this story about shaggy 2 dope telling sharon osborne to "buff his pickle" reminds me of something a professor once told us ... how most terrorists are really morons, who "succeed" only b/c of dumb luck and not brains or skill.

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Monday, 11 October 2004 05:14 (nineteen years ago) link

It took me years to understand the clowns and their music.

res ipsa loquitur.

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Monday, 11 October 2004 05:16 (nineteen years ago) link

novelty hunting trophies who are into ICP = Juggalopes.

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Monday, 11 October 2004 05:17 (nineteen years ago) link

(though to be honest, taken outta context & w/ the word "clown" deleted and "" inserted that quote pretty much summarizes an awful lot of the discussions on this board.)

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Monday, 11 October 2004 05:18 (nineteen years ago) link

in b/w those two quotes should be "NAME OF RANDOM BAND." i'm as dumb as a smart juggalo when it comes to html.

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Monday, 11 October 2004 05:26 (nineteen years ago) link

Yes but when that sentence is applies to the likes of ICP you know we are dealing with someone possessed of a truly Herculean intellect.

― AaronHz (AaronHz), Monday, 11 October 2004 05:34 (nineteen years ago) link

"applied"
hahaha d'oh

― AaronHz (AaronHz), Monday, 11 October 2004 05:34 (nineteen years ago) link

"It takes more talent than you think to listen to their music"

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Monday, 11 October 2004 05:38 (nineteen years ago) link

Now, if he was talking about Sun Ra or something there.......

― AaronHz (AaronHz), Monday, 11 October 2004 05:41 (nineteen years ago) link

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here's the article whiney refers to upthread
http://filmmakermagazine.com/86098-my-film-is-not-about-juggalos-it-is-a-juggalo-director-scott-cummings-on-making-buffalo-juggalos/
direct self comparisons to browning's freaks and

I’ve been surprised that many people assume everything in the film is real and I’ve taken to half-jokingly paraphrasing Francis Ford Coppola’s line about Apocalypse Now: “My film is not a documentary. My film is not about Juggalos. It is a Juggalo.” My hope is that through the film the myth of the Juggalo deepens and they become more mysterious, more other and more confrontational.

― So beautiful cow (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 15 November 2014 18:36 (nine years ago) link

def good that this guy with an MFA is striving to make poor suburban kids on FBI watchlists "more other"

― Whiney G. Weingarten, Saturday, 15 November 2014 19:19 (nine years ago) link

eh, i put that there in reference as explanation to your quoted article title
i dunno, watch it if you can; I thought it was pretty strong

― So beautiful cow (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 15 November 2014 19:43 (nine years ago) link

seven months pass...

http://www.theguardian.com/music/2014/aug/07/two-juggalos-charged-attemped-murder-insane-clown-posse-tattoo

― écorché (S-), Sunday, 12 July 2015 14:37 (eight years ago) link

three weeks pass...

https://broadly.vice.com/en_us/article/the-lesbian-queen-of-the-juggalos-is-reinventing-beauty-standards

if you think this might be safe for your work then well you know best

― j., Thursday, 6 August 2015 16:24 (eight years ago) link

that looks to me like the ur text from whence all broadly articles will spring

― let's not get too excited w/ the ouches (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 6 August 2015 21:59 (eight years ago) link

url/headline should read The Lesbian Queen of the Juggalettes.

Also noticed that Village Voice didn't do a Gathering roundup this year. What has happened to the journalistic standards of that once-great institution?

― how's life, Saturday, 8 August 2015 10:51 (eight years ago) link

no money to send anyone i would guess

― let's not get too excited w/ the ouches (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 8 August 2015 14:28 (eight years ago) link

this link from upthread has aged well

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/676971916/faygo-huntin-made-simple-with-this-new-app

― soyrev, Saturday, 8 August 2015 15:30 (eight years ago) link

two weeks pass...

http://www.cosmopolitan.com/style-beauty/beauty/news/a42817/clown-contouring-for-sculpted-cheeks/

― Meta Forksclove-Liebeskind (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 22 August 2015 17:19 (eight years ago) link

three months pass...

big money hustlas and big money rustlas are now on amazon prime video.

― how's life, Sunday, 6 December 2015 03:21 (eight years ago) link

ten months pass...

america 2016: violent j of the insane clown posse is now our voice of reason.

http://time.com/4521464/insane-clown-posse-killer-clowns/

― fat fingered algorithm (rushomancy), Saturday, 8 October 2016 23:34 (seven years ago) link

2020's Republican nominee

― MarkoP, Sunday, 9 October 2016 00:08 (seven years ago) link

two months pass...

https://twitter.com/AeTBench/status/803995993570181120

― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 22 December 2016 06:35 (seven years ago) link

one month passes...

Somehow managed to miss this. Despite a clown being elected president the Juggalos are going to march on DC in September because they once got called a gang or something? Hope there's a live stream!
http://www.juggalomarch.com/

― ( X '____' )/ (zappi), Thursday, 26 January 2017 22:22 (seven years ago) link

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/518iP2ENoyL._AA300_.jpg

― henry s, Thursday, 26 January 2017 22:53 (seven years ago) link

they'll fit right in with those clowns in Washington!!

― frogbs, Friday, 27 January 2017 03:10 (seven years ago) link

five months pass...

https://apnews.com/8028e1c92c0c454caa84aa1f6f9a86e2?utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=AP

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbLWAn8Zssg

― how's life, Tuesday, 11 July 2017 12:42 (six years ago) link

hahahahahahahahahaha

― this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Tuesday, 11 July 2017 18:28 (six years ago) link

That song would certainly liven up Matty in the Morning

― this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Tuesday, 11 July 2017 18:29 (six years ago) link

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