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i think the album has nice moments but overall is kinda boring. that other song i keep harping sounds exactly like the best bits of meddle, but much of the album sounds like soft bulletin-era flaming lips covering pink floyd -- i.e. overly serious pussy-rawk.

Yanc3y (ystrickler), Friday, 28 May 2004 15:52 (nineteen years ago) link

i.e. overly serious pussy-rawk.

It is overly serious, I'll give ya that. They don't use hand puppets or dress like fuckin' plushies like the Flamign Lips....which I think is considerably to their credit.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 28 May 2004 15:53 (nineteen years ago) link

http://www.acefu.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=89&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0

here's that song i love so much

Yanc3y (ystrickler), Friday, 28 May 2004 15:55 (nineteen years ago) link

Yeah, it's the soft bulletin comparison that scares me. that album bored me to tears. and yet i liked the one mercury rev album with the singing saws. go figure. but that is one of those endless ILM arguments thst i don't want to get into right now. so please, if you read this, forget that i mentioned the soft bulletin. please.

scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 28 May 2004 17:41 (nineteen years ago) link

one month passes...
I got to work today and found that I'd bought "September 000" at some point over my drinking binge, I mean, weekend. Just stuck it on. Enjoying the music, but I'm not sure the vocals are doing it for me. Will listen more and think about it. And read this thread, obviously. I was just reviving it so I knew where to post if I wanted to talk about it!

Ma$onic Boom (kate), Monday, 19 July 2004 10:53 (nineteen years ago) link

still really like september 000 and the new record. the vocals are growing on me.

Nick Apollo Forte (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 19 July 2004 11:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I listened to a lot of Mercury Rev at the weekend, and it seems to be on that kind of tip. If I think about his thin, nasal whine as being kinda like Jonathan Donahue, it doesn't bother me so much. I'm digging the space noises enough for it to be OK.

Ma$onic Boom (kate), Monday, 19 July 2004 11:04 (nineteen years ago) link

the album's more space-rock than September 000, kate. lots of long, slow-building, motorik chugalug psyche-rock.

stevie (stevie), Monday, 19 July 2004 11:41 (nineteen years ago) link

one month passes...
'first wave intact' reminds me vaguely of video games.
i dunno, maybe it's the "chorus", reminds me of TurboGraphix 16...

i hear the floyd reference, but not too much.
but, the slow songs draaaaaag.

eedd, Friday, 3 September 2004 03:22 (nineteen years ago) link

one month passes...
Revive. Reeee-viiiiive.

I just saw them open up for Interpol yesterday, and the differences between the band couldn't have been much starker. Secret Machines were pretty no nonsense (you have to be, as an opener) but also pretty uncompromising. No banter. No space between songs. It also showed how nuanced the album is, since hearing them live you'd never guess there were melodies. All in all pretty cool, and the crowd seemed to dig it. At least, they were standing there paying attention, since there was little space in the music to cheer. One guy was giving the permanent thumbs down, though.

Interpol ... boy. I like them a a lot, even if I never listen to them. I had to leave their set early (read: wanted to, 'cause I was getting a headache), but it's been a while since I saw so many in the audience going nuts. Not as in "let's hit each other" nuts, but pulling each other up on one another's shoulders to shout the lyrics back at the band while pumping their fist nuts. You'd think if someone took the time to memorize Interpol lyrics they'd realize they suck, and certainly aren't worth shouting back at the band, but these dudes (mostly) were every bit as intent and intense at the crowd at Morrissey a couple of days earlier. Go figure.

Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 15:51 (nineteen years ago) link

i've seen both bands live and I disagree with alex in nyc, the doves felt way heavier to me live....esp when they did this live band version of a sub sub old song.

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 15:57 (nineteen years ago) link

The drummer is easily the best thing about this band. They're good, though.

Jason J, Tuesday, 19 October 2004 17:09 (nineteen years ago) link

one year passes...
Saw them again last night at Webster Hall!

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 2 December 2005 20:38 (eighteen years ago) link

four months pass...
Sigh. God, I love them.

Wear High Heels, Get A Record Deal (kate), Monday, 1 May 2006 11:33 (seventeen years ago) link

They're playing LA tomorrow night! Hopefully it isn't sold out yet...

LOL Thomas (Chris Barrus), Monday, 1 May 2006 16:49 (seventeen years ago) link

I've still never seen them. I hear it's something like a religious experience. Good luck getting into the show - I'm jealous!

Alone, Jealous and SSRI'd (kate), Monday, 1 May 2006 17:04 (seventeen years ago) link

New album --- kind've a let down.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 1 May 2006 22:52 (seventeen years ago) link

three months pass...
So they don't really sound like Pink Floyd then?

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 10:57 (seventeen years ago) link

I didn't pick up the new album since the first one was such a letdown after their EP.

from The ends of your fingers (prosper.strummer.), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 11:01 (seventeen years ago) link

Errrrrr... Not really. Except maybe early mid Pink Floyd (i.e. after Syd left but before they started to Suck.)

Did you just revive this thread to try and cheer me up?

I'm going to see their Marfa film on Saturday. I'm quite excited.

x-post FFS get one clue

Her Royal Kateness (kate), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 11:02 (seventeen years ago) link

See Non Syd Pink Floyd comparisons always put me off. Even though I don't mind "meddle" or "animals".

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 11:08 (seventeen years ago) link

they don't really sound like pink floyd. some of the slower songs drift along like floyd of old, but then a lot of bands do that. (this is on the first album, anyway.)

I liked their cover of "de luxe" by harmonia. they should do a whole album of big streamlined rock versions of krautrock classics!

HPSTRKRFT (haitch), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 11:19 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm not actually all that keen on their covers. They somehow lack the intensity and the energy of their own material, while failing to actually capture what was great about the original versions. They've got a lot more imagination than their covers show.

Her Royal Kateness (kate), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 11:23 (seventeen years ago) link

Curtis (well, one of the Curtises) has claimed that Alone, Jealous And Stoned is the best song on the album, and moreover the one which will probably inform much of their next release, which is of course fantastic and wonderful, because that song is one of the most beautiful things I've heard from a band since the turn of the millennium. Ten Silver Drops is in itself a great record (although tracks 6 and 7 lose the plot a bit the rest is awesome).

Louis Jagger (Haberdager), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 11:27 (seventeen years ago) link

I love "Electric Blue Eyes" but once it gets to 6 just stop listening. Terrible song.

Kv_nol (Kv_nol), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 11:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Lightning Blue Eyes, actually. [/pedant]

Track 6 ... Faded Lines? That's one of my favourite songs on the album, I love the "Uh-huh, uh-huh" vocal riff that runs through it, it reminds me of Polara.

Has anyone else heard the "funky" alternate mix of "Daddy's In The Doldrums"? I think it turned up as a b-side. That's utterly amazing kraut-jam spacerock epic.

I always think I don't like the song AJ&S, because the beginning of it is a bit... meh. But then I forget that it explodes into this psychedelic epic with these amazing bendy guitar bits whipping around my head in stereo. And that's great.

Her Royal Kateness (kate), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 11:34 (seventeen years ago) link

What, Faded Lines? Yeah, it's the dullest one of theirs I've heard IMO, and I Want To Know is pretty turgid stuff as well. I hope you skipped to 1000 Seconds, though, which instantly dismisses memory of the immediate past and gets you back where AJAS put you earlier.

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Funky alternative DITD? I'm intrigued...it had better keep that climactic riff though.

Louis Jagger (Haberdager), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 11:35 (seventeen years ago) link

The riff is kinda... sung. It's hard to explain, but it really shows off what Josh Garza is capable of - one of the best drummers I've heard in years. It's just this pummelling, building, epic drive. Awe-inspiring.

Her Royal Kateness (kate), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 11:37 (seventeen years ago) link

Ha ha, I've just gone and read the rest of this thread. What WAS I drinking back in 2004 that made me hate on Brandon Curtis's voice so much? I've grown to really love it, especially when he manages to make it just... drip with disdain.

And how did I manage to get through this thread without once mentioning my giant clit-on for Benjamin's guitar pedals? Strange times.

Her Royal Kateness (kate), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 11:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Ooh yes, Benjamin's guitar pedals (when will bands learn that guitar effects are a GOOD thing?). Back to Garza's drumming, though, I myself have been known to drum the opening drumline of First Wave Intact with my suffering teeth for twenty minutes on end, such is its simple glory...

Louis Jagger (Haberdager), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 11:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Ben's pedals are the pinnacle of yummy spacerock goodness. And he's a connaisseur (sp?) himself - he seems to get on his band's messageboard on a semi-regular basis to enthuse about whatever Death By Audio distortion box he's picked up lately.

Is anyone else going to see their Marfa film at the Tate this weekend or next?

Her Royal Kateness (kate), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 12:00 (seventeen years ago) link

What sort of film is it? And which Tate? I'm a Londoner myself so it sounds a possibility...

Louis Jagger (Haberdager), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 12:04 (seventeen years ago) link

Tate Modern. No one knows much about it, they're kind of keeping it a bit secret. They went to Marfa, it seems they filmed some live performances, and some of it is a documentary about the Marfa Lights UFO phenomenon, etc.

Tickets on sale here:

http://www.tate.org.uk/tickets/default.htm?performancelist.asp?ShowID=2331&Source=web

I'm going to the one on the 5th August. tempted to go to the other one, as well, if it's not sold out yet.

Her Royal Kateness (kate), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 12:08 (seventeen years ago) link

this album= meh.
1st track then...not much else.

not a good follow up to the first album...
better luck next time.

edde (edde), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 12:33 (seventeen years ago) link

I like the 1st 3 songs and "faded lines."

The rest of the songs are ok, but I wish they stuck with the breakup theme of the first 3 songs.

billstevejim (billstevejim), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 15:00 (seventeen years ago) link

five months pass...
I don't care about this band at all, but LOUIS JAGGER might like to know that they were interviewed and did an in-studio performance on Sound Opinions a couple weeks ago.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 19:20 (seventeen years ago) link

wowee! cheers!

You've Got Scourage On Your Breath (Haberdager), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 19:23 (seventeen years ago) link

one month passes...
AAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!

Benjamin has left Secret Machines. :-((((((((((((((

Masonic Boom, Monday, 5 March 2007 11:25 (seventeen years ago) link

two months pass...

Saturday night in Chelsea was the first show post-Benjamin (ok, second show-- they did a barely-announced thing Thursday night).

One hesitates to make judgements when the band have obviously had so little time to find their legs. But it was pretty ramshackle. Replacing Benjamin on guitar were two new guys, one on keys/gtr, one on gtr only. I recognized neither (but then, I wouldn't would I?) Benjamin's grandiose, detailed atmospheroics were replaced with a kind of generic post-cure noisepop guitar. Again, I have no idea if these guys are permanent members and if so, how much time they've had to work out parts.

I did, however, have a great time because god damn Josh Garza is a monster on the drums. I could listen to him do his Motorik Bonham thing all night long, and with the guitar element sort of wing-lamed the drumming became the focus. I laughed out loud at the start of four or five songs just at the RIDICULOUS mass of his playing. Was actually hoping this would just be him and the singer/keyboardist guy as a duo. Still think they should consider that.

Several new songs, one of which was real heavy, like Sabbath-1st-song-1st-album heavy (but with purty quiet little chorus).

Jon Lewis, Monday, 21 May 2007 16:05 (sixteen years ago) link

Benjamin's grandiose, detailed atmospheroics were replaced with a kind of generic post-cure noisepop guitar

this sounds great. but, yeah, the drummer is the whole band for me. when i saw them live, i could feel the kick drum floating past me. it was amazing.

funny farm, Monday, 21 May 2007 16:46 (sixteen years ago) link

one year passes...

i dunno if we're allowed to talk about this on nu-ilx...?

100 tons of hardrofl beyond zings (Just got offed), Monday, 13 October 2008 00:31 (fifteen years ago) link

why wouldn't we be?

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 13 October 2008 01:56 (fifteen years ago) link

i saw these dudes play an hour and 15 min set outside in 90 degree heat and i almost became homicidal

finger blaster (J0rdan S.), Monday, 13 October 2008 01:57 (fifteen years ago) link

aw wtf man i love these dudes

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 13 October 2008 02:00 (fifteen years ago) link

deezdudes

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 13 October 2008 02:01 (fifteen years ago) link

I really like the first two records and the first ep... but I heard this "atomic heels" song from the new record and it is pretty terrible. I might buy the new record out of loyalty but it really needs to not sound like that song.

scott pgwp (pgwp), Monday, 13 October 2008 05:19 (fifteen years ago) link

anyone hear the school of seven bells album alpinisms (by one of the secret machine's guitarists)? it's much better than anything secret machines ever did (from what I remember).

akm, Monday, 13 October 2008 05:22 (fifteen years ago) link

I've just heard one song... good, interesting, need to hear more before I can form a real opinion though.

scott pgwp (pgwp), Monday, 13 October 2008 05:25 (fifteen years ago) link

huh didn't even know there was a new one

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 13 October 2008 05:45 (fifteen years ago) link

huh!

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Friday, 26 June 2020 15:13 (three years ago) link

Awake in the Brain Chamber is an excellent title

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Friday, 26 June 2020 15:14 (three years ago) link

From AVClub, where it premiered:

It’s been far too long since we’ve heard from Secret Machines. After three excellent albums that blended haunting shoegaze, driving krautrock, and arena-ready anthemic bombast, the group quietly went its separate ways in 2010 without any formal announcement that it was taking a break. But throughout the previous decade, founding member Brandon Curtis was working on material that would eventually become Awake In The Brain Chamber, the group’s latest album and its first new music in ten years. That music begins seeing the light of day as of now, with the record’s first single, “Talos’ Corpse,” available to hear below, exclusively at The A.V. Club.

The first single finds the band employing its signature stately rhythms in service of a bright arrangement of synth and warm backing vocal patterns. “This song, for me, has the sonic vibe of Tubeway Army meeting up with John Bonham in a dark alley in the late ’70s, after seeing a Bowie concert in Paris,” says Machines’ drummer, Josh Garza. The refrain echoes an encouraging plea, alternating “I want to give, give up” with its immediate retort of “but don’t give, give up,” an inspired couplet from singer Brandon Curtis, whose distinctive baritone rasp has always anchored the group’s sound, here getting even lower in his register than usual during the verses. “I am hopeful,” he tells The A.V. Club about the song. “Ultimately, that is how I would like to describe the song. I think there are obvious influences, and we can quibble about this or that. But the vibe is hope.”

The upcoming record, composed and reworked obsessively over the past decade, bears all the classic influences of the band, including the input of Benjamin Curtis, Brandon’s brother and the band’s original guitarist, who passed away from cancer in 2013. Curtis and Garza both took pains to retain Benjamin’s influence on the final versions of the tracks, as a “sort of living tribute” to their beloved former bandmate. “I have been living with some of these songs for a long time,” Brandon says of the album. “They have witnessed a bunch of stuff that has happened in my life, the world, and so on. I feel like they are the better for it. To me the songs represent a time before, during, and after. I guess I am excited to watch these songs go out into the world and blend with other peoples’ lives. To let them be a part of some new stories.”

Ten years is a long time to work on a collection of songs, and Curtis acknowledges that he can be a bit of a perfectionist, yet also knows eventually it’s time to let go. “Ever since quarantine I’ve been cooking a lot, and I’ve found that I’m the kind of person who will play with a recipe forever. You know, sometimes things are done when the dish tastes right, and sometimes it’s just time to eat.” Listeners can feast on the sounds of Awake In The Brain Chamber when it’s released on August 21. The record is available for pre-order now.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 26 June 2020 15:57 (three years ago) link

doesn't have their usual pep but as with the previous album, hopefully there are a few tracks good enough to justify it

imago, Friday, 26 June 2020 17:05 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

It's out! https://secretmachines.bandcamp.com/album/awake-in-the-brain-chamber-2

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 21 August 2020 18:41 (three years ago) link

Downloading now!

I promised Brandon I would keep my excitement about his new project going for at least two years, but that was in about 2015. Will this be psychedelic enough to stop me listening to the Shamen? Let's find out when the download finishes.

Extractor Fan (Branwell with an N), Saturday, 22 August 2020 06:04 (three years ago) link

New one hits the spot.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 24 August 2020 14:55 (three years ago) link

It's a pleasant little album with some lovely, wistful tunes, but it doesn't have even a vestige of the ambition or the prog heroics that they brought before, which were a big part of why I liked them (obviously). I guess it serves its function nicely though and it's good to have them back; obviously they've been through some shit.

imago, Monday, 24 August 2020 15:45 (three years ago) link

Yeah, I'm just glad to have new music that is not bad.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 24 August 2020 16:15 (three years ago) link

At least this way their s/t album really will be the ignored, underrated ugly duckling of their discography (while also having some really great stuff on it)

imago, Monday, 24 August 2020 16:23 (three years ago) link

It's a pleasant little album with some lovely, wistful tunes, but it doesn't have even a vestige of the ambition or the prog heroics that they brought before, which were a big part of why I liked them (obviously). I guess it serves its function nicely though and it's good to have them back; obviously they've been through some shit.

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Sums up my reaction. First track had some real promise--sort of reminded me of more recent Ride (which is not a bad thing imo). Subsequent few tracks were good, not great, and nowhere near now here is nowhere. (say that last part five times fast) I didn't have a chance to hear the last few tracks yet.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Monday, 24 August 2020 17:24 (three years ago) link

I think it will take some time, and some more attention (while my attention is, at the moment, definitely elsewhere) because I was very underwhelmed by the S/T when I first listened, but in time grew to love its subtleties. So I am definitely expecting this one to grow on me, too.

Extractor Fan (Branwell with an N), Monday, 24 August 2020 19:31 (three years ago) link

two weeks pass...

A few weeks later, I can totally confirm that this album is very definitely a grower and is revealing more and more, each time I listen.

Specific and Limited Interests (Branwell with an N), Thursday, 10 September 2020 09:43 (three years ago) link

one year passes...

...aaaand back on tour - which I'll inevitably skip as all the dates are openers for Metric.

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 8 September 2022 03:20 (one year ago) link

one year passes...

i love ten silver drops so much

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ivy., Thursday, 12 October 2023 14:01 (six months ago) link

Huh, they had a new one out earlier this year, completely missed that.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 12 October 2023 14:34 (six months ago) link

Reading now that it was apparently the results of what was originally shelved back in 2010.

Much like a frantic movie about “unfinished business” or “the one that got away,” Secret Machines spent the past few years finally putting the finishing touches on what should have been their fourth LP. Long regarded as a lost album, The Moth, The Lizard and the Secret Machines was actually put on pause in 2010 and massaged in the aftermath of 2020’s return-to-form record Awake in the Brain Chamber.

This essentially makes it the missing link between that effort’s brash pop songs and 2008’s sorely overlooked self-titled LP. (The latter receives a long overdue digital reissue this fall — one that features a far more fitting tracklisting and robust final master from Slowdive drummer/like-minded solo musician Simon Scott).

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 12 October 2023 14:35 (six months ago) link

never spent much time with the s/t and it's incredible???? obv there are posts in this thread recognizing how incredible it is

ivy., Saturday, 21 October 2023 14:42 (five months ago) link

have been waiting for you to say this

imago, Saturday, 21 October 2023 14:51 (five months ago) link

'last believer, drop dead' such a sick deep cut from their catalogue. and that closer!

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