S/D Southern Rock

Do My Morning Jacket and Black Keys fall into this catergory. If so, then I recommend both.

lol @ the signal to o_O ratio on this thread.

most of the 2003 posts on this thread are so wrong it's funny.

I saw you endorse the Henry Paul Band on the rolling vinyl thread, and that's how I ended up here.

i just bought a ktel southern rock comp w/ a fried egg on the cover

http://content.answers.com/main/content/img/amg/pop_albums/6/4/5/f64584t5l5k.jpg

i am surprised that alexinnyc does not honour the southern fried fire.
also, why isn't zz top southern rock? or are they? or were they?

They absolutely are... who says otherwise? Nobody mentioned them previously on this thread because it is ridiculous.

Southern rock rules-zz, blackfoot, skynryd, the new orleans metal groups. Kick ass stuff. And black oak slays.

Just played the first side of that Henry Paul Band LP (which I bought for $1 in Austin last week.) Pretty great -- how come all bands don't have three guitar players? (When has any extra guitar player ever made a rock band worse?)

That K-Tel Southern Fried Rock LP is pretty great; also swear by South's Greatest Hits, on Capricorn from 1977. Best CD compilation I know of is Volunteer Jam: Classic Live Performances Volume One, on Sony Music Special Products, 1999.

the new orleans metal groups

Not sure what these are, but most of the '00s extreme metal bands who supposedly sound Southern rock (Pantera, Corrosion of Conformity, Crowbar, Clutch) don't sound Southern rock at all to me. I mean, maybe they're Southern, and maybe they're rock, but so are R.E.M., right?

I actually think my favorite New Orleans metal group is Supagroup (who don't sound very Southern rock either, usually.) But maybe I've missed some.

'00s extreme metal bands

or '90s, for that matter.

Crowbar, Corrosion, Eyehategod, and their combo (Down) all have a distinctive southern feel under all the chaos, especially Down.

I have the luxury of seeing BOA reunite about once every year or so 'cause some whippersnapper thinks it would be totally WILD to get them on the bill. It is. Totally gangbusters. Dandy does look like he crawled out from under a bridge these days though.

REM=Southern Gothic* Rock

*in the literary sense (Faulkner, Tennessee Williams, Eudora Welty), not the Marilyn Manson sense

You know, I've been hearing people say that about R.E.M. and various other bands for 25 or 30 years now, and I still really have no idea what it means (though maybe I would if I'd read more Southern Gothic literature than I have, who knows.)

also, why isn't zz top southern rock? or are they? or were they?

I wouldn't say ZZ Top are an obvious southern rock band. Like any rock, blues or country group from Texas, they've maintained a certain independence from the South. At least, that's how I've always seen it.

Then again, maybe my definition of southern rock has been drawn a little too narrow. I'm no expert on the genre, by any means.

ZZ Top were considered southern rock in the seventies, but the tag kinda disappeared after they went new wave.

That makes me wonder...did Southern rock fans still consider 38 Special Southern rock after they went powerpop (which wasn't too far into their career, really)?

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Altough I do agree w/Texas groups being independent of the movement. The only other band I can think of that comes close is Point Blank, and even then the were closer to Bad Company or April Wine than Skynyrd or the Allmans.

I think .38 Special slides by on account of the Van Zandt bloodline.

xp: thirding that. texas is its own thing.

Well, the stereotypical Texan identity is too individualistic to be merely lumped in with "The South", isn't it? And was Texas even ever part of the Confederacy? (No real need to answer, I can look it up.)

Anyways, even though the guy's a racist paranoid humourless lunatic these days, Charlie Daniels used to be a cool redneck, of the whiskey-weed-&-wimmen variety. And I've got a real fondness for a big percentage of Charlie Daniels' '70s records, particularly Honey In The Rock/Uneasy Rider and the other long OOP ones.

(pls ignore now-redundant remarks re. Texas)

The thing about Texas is we had Outlaw Country happening at the same time.

ZZ Top were considered southern rock in the seventies, but the tag kinda disappeared after they went new wave.

I'm of that generation. So yeah, I didn't know about the southern rock background when I was digging those funny dudes with beards on MTV.

I do think ZZ Top has always had more of a minimalist approach to grooving than most southern rock bands.

ZZ Top also seems less influenced by southern soul, Muscle Shoals, etc. (Again, all this stuff is new to me.)

ZZ Top started out closer to Cream, James Gang, Johnny Winter. Stuff like that, power trios & what not.

I do think they (ZZ Top) had a good grip on southern soul as well. It just wasn't their selling point.

i really need some Barefoot Jerry records. i don't have any. how come i never see them anywhere?

i've been digging my elvin bishop records a lot lately. and my grinderswitch records. and the james montgomery band album on capricorn that i picked up.

been digging my fave cowboy rekkerds as well. i'm always in the mood for those:

IAN, WHEN WILL YOU KNOW THE JOYS OF CAPRICORN RECORDING ARTISTS *COWBOY*????

Point Blank reviewed

PB were definitely southern rock. They certainly seem to consider themselves so at pointblanksouthernrock.com. Their first album was ZZ Top as interpreted by angry drunks and biker-meth freaks. Heck, they were managed and produced by ZZ Top's manager who obviously wanted them to be even more dangerous. So it's their best. A long mellowing out followed.

Hydra had their moments, most of them on their first two CDs, the second with a classic photo of a copy blowing his nose with money. They were on Capricorn.

The trinity of southern rock has to be Skynyrd, the Allmans and Molly Hatchet. Besides music, they still have a lot in common. Many of them are dead. And by this they prove southern rock is something of a generic yet very distinct brand. As ringer bands, they still make records people buy and no one cares at the big country and ag fair fests that the guys onstage aren't the real guys anymore. In any case, some of the ringer guys have now been in the bands longer than the original dead guys were.

And Molly Hatchet's live CD from last year was decent. I put something on it somewhere on ILM but the search function doesn't work for shit so it's out of sight.

And now there's Mudcrutch, definitely a southern rock band. Even the album art is classic southern rock hooey. Reviewed it in Rolling Hard Rock xposted to Rolling Country. It's an Outlaws record which means if you liked the Outlaws and have the Outlaws (or Henry Paul), then you don't actually need Mudcrutch.

I need to borrow/steal my sister's Point Blank records.

Yeah, that sounds awesome.

And when I say Mudcrutch is the Outlaws, it's Tom Petty and company doing something of a wan imitation of the Outlaws who often could be very wan themselves. Both bands were rooted in Gainesville, so maybe there's a reason for that.

I passed on a couple of Black Oak records in the used dollar-bin last weekend. Not sure if I erred. I do like Skynyrd's first two pretty well and some of Little Feat is okay - not expecting these to be that good, but I suppose they might be worth a listen.

i don't even own any blackfoot albums anymore and that's a crime. i love blackfoot.

blackfoot strikes was one of my fave albums as a kid. i had no problem playing it alongside judas priest and krokus and whatever other filth i was listening to. now i wanna hear it!

Thanks, hadn't heard that! This 'un is like something unaccountably left off Buffalo Springfield's Last Time Around, but also holds its own---

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bsx0_GUJEBc

---from Cowboy - Boyer & Talton (Capricorn 1974) Scott Boyer & Tommy Talton With Chuck Leavell, Jaimoe, Randall Bramblett, Charley Hayward, Johnny Sandlin

if that doesn't show up here, it's "Everyone Has A Chance To Feel."

Live, Cowboy eventually could sound kind of in there between Traffic, Little Feat, little bit of early 70s Van Morrison---like Talton, Stewart & Sandlin kinda do here in the studio, on "Happy To Be Alive":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBhCQy2yvdw

one album that I know of:
T.Talton, B.Stewart, J.Sandlin - Happy To Be Alive (CAPRICORN 1976) Johnny Sandlin - Electric Guitar, Bass Guitar Ed Freeman - Strings, Strings Arrangements, Conductor Bill Stewart - Rhythm Guitar, Drums, Percussion Bill Stewart - Drums Tommy Talton - Guitar, Vocals Guest Musicians:Bonnie Bramlett, Chuck Leavell, Dru Lombar, Joe English, Joe Walk, Scott Boyer, Steve Miller

Really trying for that 70s radio play, duh, and deservedly so.

A couple of Cowboy albums I didn't know about, the s/t and an expanded Cowboy: Boyer & Talton, were recently reissued, haven't heard 'em yet---also, here's Tommy Talton talking about the last show with Gregg, in 2016, and a good conversation they had, along with author's mentions of the Gregg albums T played on, ditto ABB LPs (bottom of this page has a link to review of Talton's latest solo alb):
http://nodepression.com/article/tommy-talton-recalls-last-gig-gregg-allman-and-lesson-band?mc_cid=bba6edc188&mc_eid=b850f832a1

Finally got to it--said this just now on Twitter:
Cowboy, Boyer & Talton (Expanded Edition): "It's a long short highway," amen. Bramblett, Leavell, Jaimoe, Sandlin, Hornsby, Bill Stewart, David Brown, Toy Caldwell, Dru Lombar, Charlie Hayward, Giggling Heap, Willietes, 2 bonus workouts from The Gregg Allman Tour. Earned stereo.

Anybody heard the 31rst of February album, the trio's 1968 s/t? Long ago heard the demo released in '72 as Duane & Greg Allman, backed by the trio, mainly remember Greg/Gregg bellerin' "Morning Dew."

Blackfoot rawks some serious mullet. "Good Morning" that opens up their 'Marauder' lp kinda has a groove that splits the difference between thrash and the Walbash Cannonball.

Rickey Medlocke rules!

Never heard a whole Blackfoot album, but they had a decent cover of Spirit's "I Got A Line On You" in the late 70s, kind of a weird time for Southern Rock (post-Skynyrd-plane-crash, for one thing). He was mainly known as a guitarist early on, I think, but Van Zant talked him into drumming for Skyn---last I heard, he was still with the current line-up, singing and guitaring.
Just got this from Big Hassle publicists:

Gregg Allman
Laid Back Deluxe Edition and Gregg Allman Tour - August 30
Allman’s masterful debut solo album, Laid Back, will be remastered and released as an expanded two-disc deluxe edition and reissue on 180-gram vinyl. The deluxe edition features more than two dozen rarities including unreleased demos, outtakes, alternative and new mixes xpost best Cowboy line-up backing him on the Tour LP. hope there's more involving them on this.

Outlaws, live "High Tide & Green Grass": nuthin fancy like Allmans or LS, just gettin the job done in '78, as Southern Rock bandwagon headed downhill and some were alreaddy gone:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=9&v=hIaS_vYIQ_A&feature=emb_logo

last misspelling unintentional

From my Nashville Scene ballot comments re 2020:

Randall Bramblett fortified the strongest xpost Cowboy line-up I know of---on several of their own albums and The Gregg Allman Tour :all reissued, sometimes expanded, in recent years---and he’s been a good solo artist since the 70s. The all-new Pine Needle Fire succinctly suggests tight early Steely Dan with a Southern accent---but the nimble multi-instrumentalist and session leader is just sitting and thinking and singing behind his piano, through many, many a sad, sometimes beautiful post-break-up ballad all throughout the 10th Anniversary Edition of In The Meantime, which may also be expanded---too much of a good thing, or maybe I’m just too much of a bad thing to keep my mind from wandering---some keepers though, for sure. Lots more albums besides these on his bandcamp.

THE ALLMAN FAMILY REVIVAL PRESENTED BY GIBSON
ADDS ADDITIONAL ARTISTS IN SELECT MARKETS:
GEORGE PORTER, KARL DENSON, MARC FORD, IVAN NEVILLE, ART EDMAISTON, BETH HART, J.D. SIMO, JESSICA LYNN, ALLY VENABLE

NEW YEAR'S EVE PERFORMANCE ADDED
W/ CODY DICKINSON, LUTHER DICKINSON, JIMMY HALL, ROBERT RANDOLPH, SAMANTHA FISH

The fifth annual Allman Family Revival Presented by Gibson has added a 19th date to the previously announced tour and will ring in the New Year in Macon, Georgia at the Macon City Auditorium. Additionally, several new artists have been added to select markets including George Porter, Karl Denson, Marc Ford, Ivan Neville, Art Edmaiston, Beth Hart, J.D. Simo, Jessica Lynn, and Ally Venable who will join the previously announced touring lineup featuring The Allman Betts Band, Robert Randolph, Donavon Frankenreiter, Lilly Hiatt, Cody and Luther Dickinson, Eric Gales, Joanne Shaw Taylor, Jimmy Hall, Lamar Williams Jr. The Allman Family Revival will also feature Kenny Wayne Shepherd, G. Love, Samantha Fish, Alex Orbison, and Kenny Aronoff in select markets. VIP packages will be available to purchase Friday, October 22 at allmanfamilyrevival.com.

The Allman Family Revival is a celebration of the life, spirit, and music of Gregg Allman, hosted by his son, Blues Music Award-winning Devon Allman, and anchored by his group, The Allman Betts Band.

On what would have been Gregg Allman’s 70th Birthday (December 8, 2017), Devon decided to gather his talented friends to pay homage musically. Musicians that had toured with Gregg, jammed with Gregg & inspired by Gregg turned up to throw down. Legends like Robin Zander of Cheap Trick, wunderkind Marcus King, and the Orbison’s, all took part in the inaugural performance, laying the groundwork for The Allman Family Revival to be an annual who’s who of musical talent.

Now…It’s a yearly tradition, and it’s grown from an annual celebration in San Fransisco to a full fledged coast to coast tour. Based on the format of “The Last Waltz” concert with The Allman Betts Band as the house band and featuring up to a dozen marquee names in music, it’s an epic 3 hour show unlike any other.
“Hard to believe we are in the fifth year of The Allman Family Revival shows! Says Devon, “This year is going to be bonkers! 19 cities, coast to coast in historic theaters with our beautiful, talented friends jamming all night long. Can’t wait!”

Macon, GA New Year's Eve tickets go on sale Friday, October 22, all other tickets on sale now. For tickets and all up to date information, visit allmanfamilyrevival.com.
2021 Allman Family Revival
11/27 @ The Factory | St. Louis, MO
11/29 @ Majestic Theater | Dallas, TX
11/30 @ ACL Live at The Moody Theater | Austin, TX
12/1 @ Saenger Theater | New Orleans, LA
12/2 @ Coca-Cola Roxy | Atlanta, GA
12/3 @ Van Wezel PAC | Sarasota, FL
12/5 @ The Paramount | Huntington, NY
12/7 @ Orpheum Theater | Boston, MA
12/8 @ Beacon Theater | New York, NY
12/9 @ The Met | Philadelphia, PA
12/10 @ Fillmore | Silver Springs, MD
12/11 @ Michigan Theater | Ann Arbor, MI
12/12 @ Chicago Theater | Chicago, IL
12/14 @ Brady Theater | Tulsa, OK
12/16 @ Arizona Federal Theatre | Phoenix, AZ
12/17 @ Theater at Virgin Hotels | Las Vegas, NV
12/18 @ The Fillmore | San Francisco, CA
12/19 @ The Wiltern | Los Angeles, CA
12/31 @ Macon City Auditorium | Macon, GA
allmanfamilyrevival.com

About The Allman Family Revival:
On December 8, 2017, Devon Allman invited a couple dozen of his closest musical compadres onto the hallowed stage of The Fillmore to perform a three-hour, multi-set monster of a concert for the sold-out crowd that filled the historic San Francisco venue in tribute to Allman’s late father, Gregg. The date was bittersweet; what would’ve been Gregg’s 70th birthday. For Allman, in a year when the award-winning musician lost both parents within a few months of each other, what started as a simple idea of music as medicine had given birth to The Allman Family Revival: a happy and healing cosmic experience celebrating the life, spirit, and indelible musical legacy of Gregg Allman.

The format for this ambitious undertaking, Allman says, was inspired by one of rock’s most famous concerts (and film). “I had recently re-fallen in love with The Band’s The Last Waltz and thought that would be perfect: let our band come out and serve as the appetizer; then one-by-one welcome our special guests; have them do a song they are known for and also do an Allman-centric song.”

Year one, the newly-formed Devon Allman Project with Duane Betts indeed welcomed a slew of heavyweights to the tribute: G. Love; Robert Randolph; Luther and Cody Dickinson; Alex Orbison; and Samantha Fish, to name a few. In 2018, Allman and Betts installed The Allman Betts Band as the Revival’s house band, adding wunderkind Marcus King to the already-impressive guest list for another sold-out affair at The Fillmore. By 2019, Allman extended the scope of the now-annual event, and the invites (including Cheap Trick’s legendary singer, Robin Zander), slating Allman Family Revival shows in San Francisco, Denver’s Mission Ballroom, and New York City’s Beacon Theatre. In 2020, the global pandemic forced Allman to pivot to a February 2021 date, adapting the Revival to a single, socially-distanced performance at Nashville’s famed Ryman Auditorium and included Jimmy Hall (Wet Willie) and JD Simo among the now-familiar faces of Allman’s ever-expanding musical family.

“I like having artists that knew Dad, played with him, maybe were an opening act, or were really influenced and inspired by him,” Allman says. “As for a venue, I prefer those turn-of-the-century to mid-20th century, old-school theatres. They are just gorgeous inside, sculpted for sound, and provide the perfect location for these very special shows. I love for this concert to feel like a night at the theatre for our audience.”

Once envisioned as a single celebration in San Francisco, the Allman Family Revival, in its fifth year, has evolved into a full-fledged, coast-to-coast tour. As curator, host, and performer, Allman remains true to the painstaking mission of providing an epic event worthy of its inspiration. “I want to make sure there’s some ‘sonic ginger,’ to cleanse the palette amidst all those guitars,” Allman says with a smile. “I really enjoy working with the guests individually on setlists to make each show a very special night. It’s a daunting task, for sure, but a labor of love every time.”
Among the marquee names scheduled for 2021’s Revival are Robert Randolph, Eric Gales, Jimmy Hall, Donavon Frankenreiter, Joanne Shaw Taylor, Cody and Luther Dickinson, Lilly Hiatt, and Lamar Williams Jr., plus, of course, more surprises to come.

“My favorite part is just the joy of the audience. I can tell they are touched and getting every penny’s worth,” Allman says. “Knowing Dad is looking down saying, ‘Damn, son, all that hot jammin’ for me?!’ I know he’s tickled that we celebrate him. Because none of us has to do this. We all have busy careers. This is a ‘want to’ situation; absolutely, 100% about music and celebration and tribute.”
Press Contact:

ginsberg at bighassle.com

Sorry, should have condensed that, but there's the info.

Should have been the thread title:

I Hope Neil Young Will Remember: Southern Rock C/D

Southern Rock ov Today, Y'all:
North Mississippi Allstars will release Set Sail on January 28th via New West Records. The 10-song set was produced by Luther and Cody Dickinson and follows their Grammy Award Nominated 2019 album Up and Rolling, which was met with wide critical acclaim. Set Sail
features appearances by Stax Records legend William Bell on the album standout “Never Want To Be Kissed” (which Bell also co-wrote and co-produced).
...Over the years, the lineup has shifted by design, and with Set Sail, they mined the talents of Jesse Williams on bass and Lamar Williams, Jr., the son of Allman Brothers bassist Lamar Williams, Sr, on vocals. During the Allman Betts Band Family Revival, the Dickinsons first linked up with Lamar, becoming fast friends and collaborators, paving the way for Set Sail.
...(Luther)continues, “Each generation has to reinvent itself and shed the skin of the elders. On Set Sail, we feel as if we’ve once again ‘broken the code,’ and know what we want and how to get it.”
...Set Sail continues the band’s tradition of creating roots music that displays remarkable variety. The record sizzles with hard yet understated groove, grown folk music. Luther’s wide-ranging guitar style features jazz riffs, psychedelic sounds, and soulful slide. Drummer and multi-instrumentalist Cody draws on roots music, rock, jazz, rap, and other styles to create rhythms that propel the band’s sounds and move it forward. Their two aesthetics combine to create the band’s unique style, “Primitive Modernism,” melding the new and the old. Luther notes, “We leaned into our other greatest influences: folk, soul, and psychedelic rock, but everything we play feels like North Mississippi.”
For more see sites of New West Records and Relix Magazine.

Derek Trucks says new TTB album is based on all of the Persian classic Layla, not just EC's why you gotta do me so bad? take. Each leg of current tour will feature new songs, but not all of the album, not 'til release.
https://www.al.com/life/2022/06/moonrise-tedeschi-trucks-band-bringing-epic-new-music-to-alabama.html

Speak of the devil---new single (about Kofi), vids, other links, other news:
https://mailchi.mp/derekandsusan/today-pre-sales-for-nashville-dc-nola-and-chicago-runs-170760?e=5fe34c369e (Incl. 4-LP Dee-luxe ltd. ed. of aforementioned new alb, I Am The Moon.)

On April 7, 1972, the Alllman Brothers Band performed at Manley Field House on the Syracuse University campus. More than half a century later, a recording of the concert is finally being released as a live album.

The Allman Brothers Band announced “Manley Field House, Syracuse University” will be released Jan. 12, 2024, on CD and digital. The tracklist features 11 songs, including hits “Midnight Rider” and “Whipping Post” alongside a previously unreleased track called “Syracuse Jam.”

“Syracuse Jam” is described as an example of the one-time melody jamming the band was famous for and is unique in that it does not appear in any other known ABB recording.

“This night saw Gregg singing and playing his heart out, while Dickey Betts is doing phenomenal double duty on guitar, switching seamlessly between the necessary slide parts and his own soaring leads,” Jeff Chard, SU concert coordinator in 1971-72, writes in the album’s liner notes. “But the real revelation of the night is that Berry is the glue, and the second lead player as well. His thunderous bass holds the quintet together – you’ll hear it, and we could see it that night. Then there is the way Butch Trucks and Jaimoe lock in on the drums, the way the whole unit responds, five playing as one.“

dickey put in an appearance the other day.
https://jambands.com/news/2023/12/14/the-allman-betts-family-revival-celebrate-dickey-betts-80th-birthday-in-sarasota/