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The universe got resized : ( Click link for the full-resolution awesomeness.

caek, Tuesday, 6 November 2007 17:41 (sixteen years ago) link

whoaa

rrrobyn, Tuesday, 6 November 2007 17:42 (sixteen years ago) link

Individual sheets without horizontal axes plotted, suitable for printing and taping together

on the back of my bathroom door opposite the bog in my old house. Good pooping.

caek, Tuesday, 6 November 2007 17:46 (sixteen years ago) link

http://www.isi.edu/ant/address/it.15.all.16-subnet_stats.3px-per-point.annotated.png
census of the internet

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 6 November 2007 17:52 (sixteen years ago) link

(anybody who posts the xkcd drawing gets a slap)

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 6 November 2007 17:52 (sixteen years ago) link

also I think 114 and 115 got allocated to asia recently

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 6 November 2007 17:52 (sixteen years ago) link

Anything from xkcd on this thread gets a slap.

caek, Tuesday, 6 November 2007 18:00 (sixteen years ago) link

When I saw this thread title I thought of this thing that was on Metafilter the other day:

http://strangemaps.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/jpcurve.png

Noodle Vague, Tuesday, 6 November 2007 18:05 (sixteen years ago) link

What is a negative unemployment rate? Unfilled jobs/people?

caek, Tuesday, 6 November 2007 18:15 (sixteen years ago) link

I think there's a negative correlation between inflation and the unemployment rate so they've reversed the unemployment axis for some reason: maybe to illustrate the similarity of the shape.

Noodle Vague, Tuesday, 6 November 2007 18:19 (sixteen years ago) link

Ah, so by "(Minus) unemployment rate" they mean "unemployment rate x -1". In which case:

http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/6347/japanzl6.jpg

Hmm.

caek, Tuesday, 6 November 2007 18:26 (sixteen years ago) link

Actually the inflation axis looks a bit odd as well.

Noodle Vague, Tuesday, 6 November 2007 18:28 (sixteen years ago) link

caek u do astrophysics? I work for ApJ.

dan m, Tuesday, 6 November 2007 18:47 (sixteen years ago) link

I could post a lot of graphs and visuals but I would be breaking copyright big time.

dan m, Tuesday, 6 November 2007 18:48 (sixteen years ago) link

will u accept my paper y/n? Actually, it's going to MNRAS because of page charges ; ) Are you in production or editorial or marketing? I used to work in editorial for IoP in Bristol.

Posting figures = fair use (probably), and most of them are on the arXiv anyway, surely.

caek, Tuesday, 6 November 2007 19:02 (sixteen years ago) link

lol IOP... they're taking our jobs! I work for the UofC Press, on peer review and production. My old boss just accepted a position at IOP in the states, I'm hoping to get headhunted by him eventually :D

You're probably right about the figures, but I'd rather not chance it. It'd be kind of a shitty thing to bring down the credibility of the AAS!

dan m, Tuesday, 6 November 2007 19:09 (sixteen years ago) link

I was on peer review and development ("publishing editor") for Journal of Physics A. IoP in the US is in Philadelphia, right? I never got a trip there out of that job, but I did get ones to San Francisco, Pisa and Bangalore, so it wasn't all bad.

caek, Tuesday, 6 November 2007 19:37 (sixteen years ago) link

As far as I know they're mostly in Philly, but the story is a new office is opening in DC, which is where my former boss is going.

Think I can get away with this one, though I am no physicist so I have no idea what it's about beyond pretty colors...

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1122/653521560_09b57a1062.jpg

dan m, Tuesday, 6 November 2007 19:55 (sixteen years ago) link

Isn't that the Great Wall/Coma Cluster thingy on the Map Of Universe jpg?

Just got offed, Tuesday, 6 November 2007 19:57 (sixteen years ago) link

Might just be the Orion Nebula, mind.

Just got offed, Tuesday, 6 November 2007 19:57 (sixteen years ago) link

analysis of stereolab riffs:
http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/6635/labrc1.gif

mookieproof, Tuesday, 6 November 2007 20:17 (sixteen years ago) link

It's probably a galaxy cluster. Contours are probably the same object at another wavelength, e.g. X-ray, which is a good thing to look at clusters in. Distance scale is much too small for the Great Wall and too large for a nebula.

caek, Tuesday, 6 November 2007 20:19 (sixteen years ago) link

The graph I have been futzing with for two weeks. I want all 30 lines to flat and at y = 0.0.

This is what it looked like on Monday:

http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/9071/residualszp0.gif

Tuesday:

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Today:

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I'm here to tell you that this is the scientific enterprise. It's some bullshit.

caek, Wednesday, 7 November 2007 21:17 (sixteen years ago) link

What is your model made of? What is it supposed to be used for when it works?

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 7 November 2007 21:18 (sixteen years ago) link

I make models of disk galaxies. They are ones that happen to be oriented edge-on to us so they look more like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sombrero_Galaxy (but even more edge-on) than http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messier_81. This makes it harder to work out whether they have spiral structure or bars than ones that are face-on, which you can just look at.

The idea is I take an image of the edge-on galaxy, add up the mass along the line of sight and predict how the stars in a perfectly asymmetric galaxy with that mass distribution would move. I then compare this to measurements of the stars movement (I will show these soon). If I can't get, e.g. model and data velocity-radius curve to match in the central region then I can conclude that the galaxy is not perfectly axisymmetric and probably has a bar. Another product of this fitting process is the mass-to-light ratio. If M/L > 1 then we either have stars heavier than our sun for the amount of light they produce -- or dark matter.

That is the big idea, anyway. In practice I end up doing things like what I've been up to for the past fortnight, which is basically dealing with a shortcoming of my data, which is good in some regards, but poorly calibrated. This involves futzing around with numbers until my lines match the lines for the same objects published by the big, very accurately calibrated surveys.

caek, Wednesday, 7 November 2007 21:29 (sixteen years ago) link

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^^^ example of comparing my the velocity curve of my mass models to the data. That's a pretty good fit. M/L is worryingly high, but I know why that is. I need to regenerate all these plots.

caek, Wednesday, 7 November 2007 21:32 (sixteen years ago) link

What do you use to make your figures, caek? I do a lot of work on graphics, mostly because it seems there is a sizable group of authors using plotting software that they wrote themselves, and the fonts and/or colorspace get messed up. Also, IDL can eat my balls.

dan m, Wednesday, 7 November 2007 21:50 (sixteen years ago) link

I use IDL : (

caek, Wednesday, 7 November 2007 21:54 (sixteen years ago) link

Ahahah I thought so! :) The big thing is that in my experience, IDL does not know the difference between RGB and CMYK. It may say it does, but it doesn't.

dan m, Wednesday, 7 November 2007 21:55 (sixteen years ago) link

Pretty much all astrophysicists do. There are movements toward Python, mainly coming from the Hubble dudes, but there is an awful lot of entrenched code. I'm not convinced Python's graphics capabilities will make journals' lives a lot easier anyway, although it is a much nicer language.

I'm going to redraw my figures for publication in Illustrator. It's what Tufte would do.

caek, Wednesday, 7 November 2007 21:57 (sixteen years ago) link

Yeah, it has a very, very eccentric colour system, although in 1993 it was pretty amazing.

caek, Wednesday, 7 November 2007 21:57 (sixteen years ago) link

It is presumably why my pure white backgrounds come out off-white when converted to a GIF by Preview.app.

caek, Wednesday, 7 November 2007 22:05 (sixteen years ago) link

Working with your stuff in Illustrator is a good idea. Convert those fonts to outlines!

dan m, Wednesday, 7 November 2007 22:07 (sixteen years ago) link

http://www.rotovibe.com/images/pill.gif

Spencer Chow, Wednesday, 7 November 2007 22:11 (sixteen years ago) link

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So we signed off on those flat lines, and now I have to do error analysis (to figure out the error in my correction). This white line on this graph (not mine) is my life right now:

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caek, Thursday, 8 November 2007 21:33 (sixteen years ago) link

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The other thing I am doing at the moment. The thing in the pink circle is one of the galaxies I am interested in. The big star to its right is going to ruin my day tomorrow.

caek, Thursday, 8 November 2007 21:55 (sixteen years ago) link

More rap graphs:

http://www.jamphat.com/rap/

StanM, Saturday, 10 November 2007 15:09 (sixteen years ago) link

For the record, the original Last.fm graphs were made by Lee Byron (http://megamu.com/lastfm/ and http://centripetalnotion.com/2007/05/18/19:24:07/)

Loader, Saturday, 10 November 2007 18:33 (sixteen years ago) link

http://i22.tinypic.com/29ks9ys.jpg

surely the average height of the WTC would be lower in 2001, if measured monthly over the whole year.

pc user, Saturday, 10 November 2007 18:57 (sixteen years ago) link

Well, that's obviously Fiscal Year 2001 (trade center, get it?), that ended on Sept 30th. That is why the difference on such a small graph is almost unnoticeable.

StanM, Saturday, 10 November 2007 19:01 (sixteen years ago) link

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/3050/residualsjr9.gif

lol science

caek, Sunday, 11 November 2007 02:34 (sixteen years ago) link

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/821/picture1cp6.png

That, my friends, is discretization and it's a bitch.

caek, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 16:01 (sixteen years ago) link

that hurts to look at

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 17:43 (sixteen years ago) link

it hurts my soul.

caek, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 17:44 (sixteen years ago) link

three months pass...

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f325/caek/Picture1-2.png

caek, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 14:45 (sixteen years ago) link

That is a weird way of looking at my model galaxy. Smooth.

And here are a couple of graphs I did for a film (supposed to be bad)

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f325/caek/graph.png

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f325/caek/pie.png

caek, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 14:49 (sixteen years ago) link

And I forgot to post this when I started this thread, which you'll have seen if you're a fan of uppers

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f325/caek/speed3.gif

caek, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 14:50 (sixteen years ago) link

grid

flopson, Tuesday, 1 September 2015 03:25 (eight years ago) link

three years pass...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D6PtWdLXsAAgIht.jpg

mookieproof, Saturday, 11 May 2019 03:46 (four years ago) link

- "Maybe we should get another usual suspect in the lineup besides the Indian woman."

- "But from where? Estonia? Venezuela? There aren't many other countries to choose from!"

pplains, Saturday, 11 May 2019 03:55 (four years ago) link

Look at the difference between 5’4” and 5’5” on the y-axis, compares to between 5’0” and 5’1”

these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Saturday, 11 May 2019 04:02 (four years ago) link

Other than that, great chart design!!

these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Saturday, 11 May 2019 04:03 (four years ago) link

The Latvian woman is huge and the woman from India is tiny to visually convey the fact that Latvia has a female population at least ten times larger than the female population of India.

A is for (Aimless), Saturday, 11 May 2019 05:00 (four years ago) link

The sum of the height of all the Indian women will be more though. Is there a graph of that?

StanM, Saturday, 11 May 2019 05:25 (four years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D7K2CkyXkAAEJKT.jpg

mookieproof, Thursday, 23 May 2019 20:05 (four years ago) link

that was so upsetting. Also needs the the n/2+7 line drawn on as well

don't mock my smock or i'll clean your clock (silby), Thursday, 23 May 2019 20:12 (four years ago) link

eight months pass...

is there a name for a visualization that would accomplish the following?

i want to compare two populations that each have two subsets--say one of them is 15M people total, then 4M of those people meet a specific condition, and 1.9M of those 4 meet a further specific condition. and the other population has the same conditions but completely different proportions.

so basically like a treemap but instead of the whole area adding up to the total it would have proportional smaller rectangles embedded within a big rectangle? is this even a thing?

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 28 January 2020 03:41 (four years ago) link

would a simple stacked bar graph do the trick? here are two that meet your requirements:
https://i.imgur.com/me2obge.png
https://i.imgur.com/sW9m0c5.png

the first shows two populations of different sizes, the second shows two population of equal sizes.

But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 28 January 2020 04:08 (four years ago) link

or wait, i see what you're saying. subsets within subsets. if that's the case, you could just color code the results. 11M non-diarrhea, 6 million with diarrhea. non-diarrhea is a deep calm blue, diarrhea is an agitated warm color. 4.1 million of the 6 million have severe diarrhea, so make that deep red. the other 1.9 million have moderate diarrhea, so make that orange.

https://i.imgur.com/eZND3qv.png

But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 28 January 2020 04:15 (four years ago) link

or, to go to your op, a tree map, and just format the results to highlight the groupings you want

But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 28 January 2020 04:17 (four years ago) link

Karl I am gonna need seventeen more made up diarrhea graphs on my desk by COB tomorrow.

Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Tuesday, 28 January 2020 04:36 (four years ago) link

i'm glad i processed those extra participants' waivers during my lunch break yesterday, sunday, instead of eating

But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 28 January 2020 04:45 (four years ago) link

"Beginner's Diarhhea"!

zuck zuck lucify (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 28 January 2020 06:22 (four years ago) link

two years pass...

What a wonderfully misleading diagram in the Times today 📈 pic.twitter.com/isQtZS6Mot

— Will Bailey-Watson (@mrwbw) June 27, 2022

koogs, Tuesday, 28 June 2022 13:29 (one year ago) link

six months pass...

loooooooool

An analysis looks at how defense spending among the nations with the highest expenditures has changed since 1992 and what may have driven the changes https://t.co/3ln08vOKAo pic.twitter.com/yqK6MqwQUm

— St. Louis Fed (@stlouisfed) January 22, 2023

Karl Malone, Monday, 23 January 2023 22:33 (one year ago) link

five months pass...

https://i.redd.it/cxtoiiuy9l9b1.png

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 3 July 2023 20:11 (nine months ago) link

see you there in April!

assert (matttkkkk), Tuesday, 4 July 2023 00:31 (nine months ago) link


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