Lou Reed/Metallica Collabo Anticipation Thread

White Light/ White Moat

i listened to all of "junior dad" on the way home last night (lulu version) and kind of had a moment, got actual chills

love the strings at the end so, so much

yeah it is great. lou's vocal is fab -- wish he'd chill out and sing like that more often.

black album = 5th best surely?

yeah it is great. lou's vocal is fab -- wish he'd chill out and sing like that more often.

― tylerw, Thursday, November 10, 2011 3:50 PM (20 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

for a lot of the album it sounds like he's really straining to be heard over a band as muscular as metallica...which sometimes works, esp on the really hard/fast songs like the "supreme violation/oh jack i beeseech ya" parts etc...but yeah on jr dad he's voice doesn't sound shot and i think it's because he could relax and not strain

It already made the bottom 100 at rate your music, sneaking in at #98:

http://rateyourmusic.com/charts/bottom/album/all-time

Metallica & Lou Reed : Lulu est un flop commercial
‎Jeux Actu MUSIQUE - 1 day ago

Megaflop af Metallica
‎Ekstra Bladet - 20 hours ago

Lulu di Metallica e Lou Reed: un flop annunciato?
‎Newnotizie - 2 days ago

Il flop 'n roll dell'anno
‎Lettera43 - Nov 1, 2011

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cHesdP5BxY

earlier today, I was playing legos with my 3 year old son and kind of repeatedly singing the lines "I am the root" and "I am the table". My son thinks I'm crazy.

Lou Reed and Metallica both seem the sort to pride themselves on a flop like this for all the wrong reasons. That is, they'd probably think it's because they were too avant garde, pushing the boundaries too hard, too far. Challenging fans too much. Because they won't play according to your rules, maaaaaan.

For some reason it all brings to mind this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njIhIwSqt-g

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sdrgdh5U3z0&list=PL7CDDF3296CD889DA&index=3&feature=plpp_video

I still can't believe this is happening.

like a dream

i've been reading an Ellen Willis anthology that has a lot of great stuff about Lou Reed in it, makes me really wish she was alive to write about this

Lou seems really happy in that clip. Who is the dude on keyboards?

Poor Lars should pull a Neil Peart and relearn how to play drums, since the way he does it now looks like it really pains him or something.

lars is really not looking the rockstar part these days. kind of get the impression that in all other facets of life he's moved on from the metal thing, but the whole metallica thing is too much of a juggernaut to shift away from.

Ending on that one ^^ is nice.

Opening to this one needs to be added to one of the ILX Dragons.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuPBNP1ON7E&feature=relmfu

lars is really not looking the rockstar part these days. kind of get the impression that in all other facets of life he's moved on from the metal thing, but the whole metallica thing is too much of a juggernaut to shift away from.

― charlie h, Saturday, November 12, 2011 11:39 AM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark

so he's the new charlie watts basically

Charlie Watts never looks like he's working! Lars is, like, struggling.

well yeah, i just meant in the sense that he's maybe mentally checked out and is just plugging away at the thing that pays for his next yacht or whatever. lars has ALWAYS been kind of an awkward and unpleasant drummer for me to watch (and to a lesser extent listen to).

Looks like Lou in those clips is the only one not wearing any pussy-ass in-ear monitor.

lou could've gone deaf and learned to lip read years ago and nobody would have noticed

i just meant in the sense that he's maybe mentally checked out and is just plugging away at the thing that pays for his next yacht or whatever. lars has ALWAYS been kind of an awkward and unpleasant drummer for me to watch (and to a lesser extent listen to).

i dunno, he was the only member of the group visibly committed to BEING IN METALLICA in Some Kind Of Monster, with James busy keeping the Hulk at bay, and Kirk playing luke-warm water. Plus if he was just in it for the yachts this Lou Reed thing would not be happening, and St. Anger wouldn't have been so bold. That was his baby.

he is a horrible drummer to watch and listen to, though

Lars has always had an inferiority complex, as a drummer and as an Artist. He has always whined publicly about his perception as a drummer, and as the movie underscores, he clearly craves acceptance on several fronts: from his dad, from his bandmates, from the art world. He sees his former bassist's shitty band and says "this is the future." He sees Sigur Ros and says "this is what the cool people like." He gets a chance to work with Lou Reed, and surely somewhere in that busy Scandinavian brain of his he recognizes the potential to get something he thinks he does not have.

The interview Lars did with Howard Stern in September was fascinating. He had to take drumming lessons before recording Ride the Lightning.

i found that interview on that german show they posted on pitchfork a little bit depressing. think it was due to a combination of the presenter's woodenness, hetfield's inarticulateness and lou's churlishness. lars, thanks to a predictable turn of verbal diarrhea, was by far the most interesting to listen to.

on the question of lars, yeah i do think he has kind of "mentally checked out". obviously not in a passive way like charlie watts, given that he remains the most outspoken and effervescent member of metallica, but more in terms of how he seems to connect and engage with the music, which really seems to be at increasing odds with his public persona. there is definitely an element of celebrity and self-awareness in how he conducts himself, it's just that this seems removed from metallica somehow. it strikes me as kind of strange since the only thing he's famous for is being part of metallica.

lol at lou reading his shitty lyrics off of a teleprompter

I wonder if it was equipped with LouZoom.

He's been doing that for 20+ years:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZRxjpxccF0

Ha.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCq4SqGStzE

http://www.lpassociation.com/forums/smilies/headbang.gif

Forgert the politics of it all for 10 minutes. There is a great performance here by Lou and Metallica!!

jaypellch 1 day ago

Anyone else think that Lou looks like a withered version of ... Jason Newstead?

^^ not very flattering for poor Jase, but at least you qualified that with "withered".

did you guys hear about the doug yule/anthrax collaboration?

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lsloegANO31qht9b0o1_500.jpg

AHHH LOVE THAT

Mike Patton has some things to say:

I'm wondering, in view of the Lou Reed and Metallica record coming out...

MP: Oh man, how was it?

I'm glad there are records in the world like it.

MP: You know, it's funny you mention that, because today I'm meant to give a quote about the record. I haven't heard the record but the New York Times is doing a big piece on the cultural significance of a record like that... It's an interesting idea... what they're asking is: 'Is it worth it for an artist to take risks like this when there's going to be a huge backlash?' And they asked me. My first reaction was 'no comment'. I haven't heard the record, I'm not going to start talking out of my breeches here. But the 'idea' of a record like that I think is amazing. I think it's great. Why can't a fucking platinum-selling band work with an experimental pioneer? Why not?

It's good to hear a band outside of their comfort zone. They're Lou's bitches.

MP: Well, I've heard some stories, ha ha. I'll just leave it at that. The idea of it, conceptually, I'm all for it.

Now Lulu was based on two plays by Frank Wedekind. I'd ask Lou himself but I interviewed him once and it wasn't a very pleasant experience and I wouldn't want to go through that again...

MP: HA HA HA! He's a sweetheart too. He has his moments, as do all of us.

I thought he'd open up to me, I'm not like all the others.

MP: Nah, you don't break Lou. Just catch him on a good day. I love the guy, I really do. He's been super super sweet with me. I played with him and (John) Zorn once and he was really fun, and super super nice, and sweet and supportive. Yeah, I'd go to bat for him any day.

I think it's just journalists he doesn't like.

MP: Well you know, can you forgive him? Can you blame him?

http://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2011/11/metallica-and-lou-reeds-lulu-is-actually-excellent/248574/

Seriously!

Meanwhile RIP Lulu:

LouTallica completely fell off the Billboard 200 this week. That means sales of less than about 3,000 in week 2.

Lou—vinegary, unsteady-sounding—cries, "C'mon James!" In other words: Help me, Metallica! Give me the power I need to do this!

the atlantic gets it

http://www.lpassociation.com/forums/smilies/headbang.gifHelp me, Metallica! Give me the power I need to do this! http://www.lpassociation.com/forums/smilies/headbang.gif

That's a little prayer I say to myself every morning.

Gotta pick up a few copies to sell on eBay someday.

Every year Warner Music has a big product sell-off for employees, the proceeds from which go to charity. I went this year and picked up the 3CD/1DVD Jane's Addiction box and the mammoth Neil Young Archives 10DVD thing; the latter cost me $40. I predict there will be a large stack of the fancy comes-in-a-tube edition of Lulu next year, probably for about $5 a pop.