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the peregrine is indeed beautiful

OOH tell me more about the cult

Okay, from what I can remember, it was a commune based at a large estate in the Sonoran mountains that was into Fourth Way spirituality. Children were encouraged to think of the group as one big family and consequently were persistenly moved around between different sets of parents. They were given a lot of freedom to roam around the estate and so spent a lot of time outdoors, but apparently Liz Harris didn't mix with anyone from outside the community until she was eleven when she got sent off to public school, where obviously she was a complete outsider. This was when I think the commune was collapsing anyway.

Meanwhile, her father had left the commune previous to this and as a result Liz didn't feel wholly a part of the group but was instead was in this limbo between that and the outside world. The article then goes on to talk about this theme of inbetween states as a central part of her work. It was useful!

(also Manuel Göttsching is on the cover, it's a nice issue!)

i wish that magazine weren't so expensive! is the Göttsching article long? worth reading?

also wow, what a mess of words here:

is never without some task around which and in connection with which it can alone exist. When this work is finished, that is to say, when the aim set before it has been accomplished, the fourth way disappears, that is, it disappears from the given place, disappears in its given form, continuing perhaps in another place in another form. Schools of the fourth way exist for the needs of the work which is being carried out in connection with the proposed undertaking. They never exist by themselves as schools for the purpose of education and instruction.

cults are so interesting

Yeah I'm not sure I completely understand that wiki entry, it's still about as clear as mud to me.

The Göttsching piece is pretty much focussed entirely on E2-E4 btw. Haven't read it yet though.

^^ That makes me want to buy it even more

there's also a piece about sandwell district

The Visitor 12" by Grouper & Ilyas Ahmed is available from http://littleaxerecords.com, under distributed titles.

I'd been looking for it for a while.

“Spent the last two weeks writing sketches/demos for forthcoming collaboration between me and Grouper for the upcoming Ninja Tune Bug album.”

http://www.factmag.com/2012/01/11/the-bug-working-with-grouper-on-new-album/

yeah, very interested in how that's going to turn out

Me too! Maybe like a droney lo-fi, dubbed out version of Liz Frasier with Massive Attack?

err, Liz Fraser obv

totally, in a general sense, although hopefully very much its own thing as well

it's nice seeing this new Ethereal/Witchy Girls + Beats sound happening in a lot of places, as that's prob one of my fav combinations ever

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y46RQCMGjZU

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

THIS IS LIKE A DREAM COLLAB

Albums out in a couple of weeks time on Kranky (which makes sense cos the sound of that song is 100% pure essence of Kranky tbh).

anyone hear this yet?

I've only given it a couple of cursory listens on spotify while I've been doing other things so I've not really formed a full impression of it yet, but it seems to be nicely split between dronier ambient soundscapes and folkier tunes with acoustic guitar (which I guess is the Tiny Viper side of things? Don't really know her work very well).

This song is very, very lovely btw and the most immediate track on the record:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmERm-l2_uc

^ top ten track of the year sort of stuff for me i would say

Enjoying Jesy Fortino's voice on this, reminds me a bit of Marcy Mays from Scrawl. Definitely going to have to listen to more Tiny Vipers.

tiny vipers - life on earth is in my top 10 of all time https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_kUEgu2edI

i like the mirrorring album quite a bit, but it's hard to separate it from my overwhelming expectations and desires for a new tiny vipers album

tiny vipers - life on earth is in my top 10 of all time

Am listening to this album right now btw. It's good!

folkier tunes with acoustic guitar (which I guess is the Tiny Viper side of things? Don't really know her work very well).

yep, the song-oriented stuff is straight from Tiny Vipers' two Sub Pop albums, both gorgeous, but way more straightforward and tuneful than Liz' work as Grouper. the Mirrorring album is lovely and strikes pretty much an exact midpoint between their two styles. i wrote about it here in detail.

Looks like the AIA double album is getting a CD release on Kranky at some point in the near future. That'll be nice.

yesssssss!!

oh that's cool.

the mirroring record is nice. liz quietly harmonising with/echoing tiny vipers is gorgeous.

& i went to see grouper's tape loop thing a couple of weeks ago, & only caught the end. swirly.

Looks like the AIA double album is getting a CD release on Kranky at some point in the near future. That'll be nice.

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and probably cheaper than buying the FLAC files, this is good news.

goodness me this mirroring album is beautiful.

finally got my finances sorted and ordered a copy. I will read it with my copy of the Diablo III art book since they are coming in the same package.

got the A I A two CD set on Kranky, just now hearing Dream Loss for the first time, awesome & immersive... "Atone" is gorgeous.. haven't even gotten to Alien Observer yet.

anyone heard Violet Replacement?

that is literally the ONE grouper release i wasn't able to get. such a bummer...i've heard its beautiful. going for a lot of money on discogs now, obv.

I predict an LP pressing of Violet Replacement down the road.

wait isn't violet replacement like 2hrs+

I predict a $46 pressing limited to only 300 special edition LPs that sell out before I can figure out that they're even on sale somewhere

otm

Hello,

A curation non-profit from Vancouver BC called Filip is putting out a fragment from a tape collage piece called SLEEP. One-sided vinyl 12". They're on a low budget, made 800.

They have a pre-order button on their website. https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?c ... BVH52CGL7W
Otherwise Little Axe/Mississippi will take orders soon. Everyone has agreed not to charge more than 15$ for this record (it's a little high due to production cost.) If enough people want it I will repress it again later as a YELLOWELECTRIC release.

Thanks, be well

Liz

an unreleased record from 2008 is coming out on kranky,

http://pitchfork.com/news/48908-grouper-to-reissue-dragging-a-dead-deer-release-new-album-of-unreleased-material/

Hey, thanks for posting this. Always meant to listen to this record, and that link has it streaming. Listening right now and it truly is lovely stuff. I like the guitar playing a lot.

^ so nice to read this. it's such a special record. the last place I lived I would listen to it most nights, playing the first side or putting the whole thing on through my ipod & falling asleep to it. the harmonising is so saintly & the guitar playing so affecting. it is so playable a record. i remember walking around a city on a really bright day, feeling ill & with it playing in my headphones, not attentive enough to squint away the sun & feeling like my brain was cotton wool and honey.

http://cdn04.cdn.gorillavsbear.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/GROUPER-THE-MAN-WHO-DIED-IN-HIS-BOAT1-575x575.jpg

http://archive.org/details/unreleased_Grouper_mp3-218

I'm going to start signing credit slips by writing Grouper in cursive like that.

https://soundcloud.com/kranky/grouper-vital

i almost can't believe we get another grouper album from this time; in its mood & place it feels like unearthing a new gospel or a lost painting. i don't know how this is different from awaiting another of her records, but there's something so specific about the feeling, it feels lucky to hear it.

Really enjoying this new-not-new album.

I listened to it not knowing it was unreleased from 2008 stuff and felt disappointed. Less so now I know! But am chomping at the bit to hear what she does next.

Getting lots of play around my house

i love the new-not-new one! much more than the dual A I A releases tbh

yeah those left me cold compared to Dead Deer, haven't heard this "new" one. Are there Soundcloud samples or anything?

I think there are. I'm on the phone so I can't really search. But if you liked D a D D up the hill you'll definitely like it.