PIXIES Poll: The best track on Doolittle

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Filler:

"Ana"
"Blown Away"
"Hang Wire"

lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 15:01 (twelve years ago) link

No, maybe, yeah.

ceci n'est pas un nom d'affichage (ledge), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 15:02 (twelve years ago) link

^rong as hell (xp)

stay tuned for more BLAHBLAHBLAH I'M A PEDANT (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 15:03 (twelve years ago) link

Ana and Blown Away are two of my favorites on the album...

All Over the World, Hang Wire, Stormy Weather, Is she Weird & Hang Wire are sometimes awesome, sometimes wearying

stay tuned for more BLAHBLAHBLAH I'M A PEDANT (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 15:04 (twelve years ago) link

can maybe see the case for blown away and hang wire, but i love both of them, ana is great

mizzell, Wednesday, 9 November 2011 15:05 (twelve years ago) link

"sometimes-awesome, sometimes-wearying" refers to Hang Wire and Is She Weird...

the first Hang Wire was meant to be Down to the Well, which I actually like a lot but more in its Purple Tape form, with the odd Kim Deal background chant & stuff...

stay tuned for more BLAHBLAHBLAH I'M A PEDANT (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 15:06 (twelve years ago) link

the highlights on trompe le monde are better, but bossanova's consistency is why it's my favoite.

mizzell, Wednesday, 9 November 2011 15:06 (twelve years ago) link

Bossanova version is way fiercer but Deal's weird chik-aa-oom makes the song imo:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQJMClWeApI

stay tuned for more BLAHBLAHBLAH I'M A PEDANT (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 15:08 (twelve years ago) link

Bossanova also the album that gave me a real appreciation for surf music

stay tuned for more BLAHBLAHBLAH I'M A PEDANT (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 15:08 (twelve years ago) link

I'm absolutely baffled that "Hey" would be the #1 choice on an album with both "Debaser" and "Tame", let alone the other usual well-known hits. I had to actually listen to the album again to remember how "Hey" even went. Insanity.

Also WTF, I was sure that it was already Proven by Science™ that Bossanova was the worst Pixies album.

Sean Carruthers, Wednesday, 9 November 2011 16:03 (twelve years ago) link

I had to double-check to see if I was the lone vote for "Silver", lol

(I wasn't; I voted "Dead")

dense macabre (DJP), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 16:06 (twelve years ago) link

I know I voted them "Surfer Rosa > Trompe Le Monde > Doolittle > Bossanova", but realistically 'Bossanova' is the only album of theirs I can level any sort of criticism at. The other three are just ranked in terms of which one I'm more likely to choose if I'm going to listen to this band.

The problem I have with 'Bossanova' is mainly down to the song sequencing, the album is quite strong for me until after 'Dig For Fire' and then all of a sudden dips very noticeably, IMO, with only 'The Happening' really standing out. Although, having said that, 'All Over The World' with its extended outro feels more like a penultimate track than a 'track seven'. There's nothing wrong with stuff like 'Down To The Well', 'Blown Away' or 'Hang Wire', but sequencing them together with the low-point (for me) of the album, 'Stormy Weather', just weakens those songs for me. As it stands at the moment, as a front-to-back listen, it's more a 4/5 for me than the 4.5/5 that AMG rates it as.

Turrican, Wednesday, 9 November 2011 16:14 (twelve years ago) link

^ agree with this - kinda feel the same way about Surfer Rosa as well, it dips pretty markedly after Cactus.

The Eyeball Of Hull (Colonel Poo), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 16:18 (twelve years ago) link

Wow, Hang Wire and Stormy Weather are a couple of my favorites from Bossanova.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 9 November 2011 16:28 (twelve years ago) link

Trompe le Monde > Surfer Rosa > Doolittle > Bossanova

btw I know it's an EP and therefore doesn't count here but I really love Come On Pilgrim and maybe even more so than any of the actual albums. Maybe.

Juggy Brottleteen (ENBB), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 16:36 (twelve years ago) link

morelike trompe le merde amirite :D

so solaris (Lamp), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 16:37 (twelve years ago) link

I can't believe how wrong you are on that, man. You usually have such good taste! ;)

Juggy Brottleteen (ENBB), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 16:38 (twelve years ago) link

i basically think of come on pilgrim as their debut album. it's officially a "mini LP" not an EP right? whatever that means. Seems a couple songs too long to be an EP anyway.

the whole "doolittle" is their worst album thing is mystifying to me. though I don't know what i'd pick as their worst, I guess.

tylerw, Wednesday, 9 November 2011 16:39 (twelve years ago) link

I remember at the time it came out, Bossanova came across to me like a Pixies album for people who didn't really like the band

dense macabre (DJP), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 16:40 (twelve years ago) link

Bossanova was orginally conceived as a Black Francis solo album wasn't it? Or am I making that up.

tylerw, Wednesday, 9 November 2011 16:41 (twelve years ago) link

tbh i havent listened to a pixies album as a whole in years theyre def a trax band for me trompe is just the one the fewest tracks i like (xp to enbb)

so solaris (Lamp), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 16:41 (twelve years ago) link

it's officially a "mini LP" not an EP right? whatever that means

Yeah, I guess. idk what that means either though. Whatever it is, it sure is good.

Lamp - that makes sense. I think that its place as my fave probably owes a lot to the circumstances under which I first heard it and really fond memories of that time in my life.

Juggy Brottleteen (ENBB), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 16:44 (twelve years ago) link

Caribou is definitely an ace way to begin a recording career amirite!

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 9 November 2011 16:45 (twelve years ago) link

trompe le monde was my first pixies album, making it a rare instance in which my first is not my favorite.

i don't remember what i voted for four years ago, but i'd vote for 'gouge away' now.

(when did polls start on ilx?)

mookieproof, Wednesday, 9 November 2011 16:46 (twelve years ago) link

I remember at the time it came out, Bossanova came across to me like a Pixies album for people who didn't really like the band

― dense macabre (DJP), Wednesday, November 9, 2011 11:40 AM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark

lol this might explain my weird Pixies challops; Bossanova was the first album of theirs I'd heard.

(also lamp otm abt Pixies being a traxx band)(cept for Surfer Rosa)

stay tuned for more BLAHBLAHBLAH I'M A PEDANT (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 16:47 (twelve years ago) link

also Johnny Fever OTM about Caribou

stay tuned for more BLAHBLAHBLAH I'M A PEDANT (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 16:48 (twelve years ago) link

Hmm. I can't get on board with the whole 'Doolittle is the worst album' thing either. For me, 'Surfer Rosa', 'Doolittle' and 'Trompe Le Monde' are equally great. Just that in the general scheme of things 'Doolittle' tends to get more praise than 'Trompe Le Monde' does. I couldn't really say any one of those albums is better than the other, even if I am more likely to listen to 'Surfer Rosa' and 'Trompe Le Monde' over 'Doolittle'.

Turrican, Wednesday, 9 November 2011 16:48 (twelve years ago) link

Trompe is the best-sequenced Pixies album. It hits you with a burst of short, fast tunes out of the gate, changes it up a bit in the middle, and then closes strong. I think it works better as an album-listening experience rather than as an assortment of individual tracks.

o. nate, Wednesday, 9 November 2011 16:49 (twelve years ago) link

the only single I like from Trompe is U-Mass

stay tuned for more BLAHBLAHBLAH I'M A PEDANT (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 16:51 (twelve years ago) link

didn't we have this conversation like 3 weeks ago?

pixies rule, my feelings are best summed up thusly:
caribooooooooooooooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

the MMMM cult (La Lechera), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 16:51 (twelve years ago) link

The title track of 'Trompe Le Monde' is one of my favourite Pixies songs ever. Custom-built for air drumming, that one.

Turrican, Wednesday, 9 November 2011 16:52 (twelve years ago) link

pixies rule, my feelings are best summed up thusly:
caribooooooooooooooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

― the MMMM cult (La Lechera), Wednesday, November 9, 2011 4:51 PM (37 seconds ago) Bookmark

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE-PEEEEEEEEEEENNTTTT!!!!!

Turrican, Wednesday, 9 November 2011 16:52 (twelve years ago) link

actually this is more accurate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcn0f5s-aas

the MMMM cult (La Lechera), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 16:53 (twelve years ago) link

TAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAME
TAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAME

the MMMM cult (La Lechera), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 16:53 (twelve years ago) link

xp lol LL I was just thinking I had thought Pixies had fallen from grace round these parts so it does my heart good to know that they are still reliable conversation-starters

even tho I don't really like them

stay tuned for more BLAHBLAHBLAH I'M A PEDANT (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 16:54 (twelve years ago) link

This thread has just reminded me that I once worked with a guy called Jefrey.... with one F! First thing I asked him when I found out was "have you heard 'Space (I Believe In)' by Pixies!?!?"

Turrican, Wednesday, 9 November 2011 16:55 (twelve years ago) link

Trompe is the best-sequenced Pixies album. It hits you with a burst of short, fast tunes out of the gate, changes it up a bit in the middle, and then closes strong. I think it works better as an album-listening experience rather than as an assortment of individual tracks.

― o. nate, Wednesday, November 9, 2011 4:49 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark

Yeah, I would agree with it being the best-sequenced Pixies album. Definitely.

Turrican, Wednesday, 9 November 2011 16:56 (twelve years ago) link

Slightly OT, but Pixies fans should check out the one-disc version of The Golem - Black Francis is reunited with Eric Drew Feldman (keyboardist on Trompe). Nice batch of songs!

o. nate, Wednesday, 9 November 2011 16:59 (twelve years ago) link

TLM loses its way in the middle but the start and the end are great. bossanova is kind of a muddle the whole way through, never less than good but rarely much more than that either. and i don't like how it sounds. but surfer rosa and doolittle are a level above. if 80s pixies and 90s pixies were 2 different bands, the first one would still be iconic, the second one would be a good band.

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 9 November 2011 17:00 (twelve years ago) link

Roberto, which songs does 'Trompe Le Monde' lose it and get it back on for you, out of curiosity?

Turrican, Wednesday, 9 November 2011 17:06 (twelve years ago) link

"Space (I Believe In)" sucks a lot of energy out of TLM, imo

mizzell, Wednesday, 9 November 2011 17:10 (twelve years ago) link

That song is funny!

o. nate, Wednesday, 9 November 2011 17:11 (twelve years ago) link

yeah it's funny, but it's self awareness about being filler doesn't make it not filler

mizzell, Wednesday, 9 November 2011 17:12 (twelve years ago) link

I like that one. The weakest point for me is "Subbacultcha".

o. nate, Wednesday, 9 November 2011 17:13 (twelve years ago) link

"Planet of Sound" might be my least favorite Pixies song

stay tuned for more BLAHBLAHBLAH I'M A PEDANT (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 17:17 (twelve years ago) link

i might agree with that.

mizzell, Wednesday, 9 November 2011 17:19 (twelve years ago) link

JEFREY! (JEFREY!) WITH ONE! F! JEF! REY!
JEFREY! (JEFREY!) WITH ONE! F! JEF! REY!
JEFREY! (JEFREY!) WITH ONE! F! JEF! REY!

spaaaaaaaaaaace! i belieeeeeeeeve in spaaaaaaaace!

(and now I'm going to sing the Perry Mason theme!)

Turrican, Wednesday, 9 November 2011 17:19 (twelve years ago) link

i believe in (swinging at) spaaaaace

mookieproof, Wednesday, 9 November 2011 17:24 (twelve years ago) link

Planet of Sound is a paint-peeler! I crank it when I'm driving.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 9 November 2011 17:24 (twelve years ago) link


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