yeah ultimately dance CV > dance SPK, but man do I love "Breathless"
― dense macabre (DJP), Monday, 7 November 2011 21:23 (twelve years ago) link
But Slogun > Nag Nag Nag
Having said that though…https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgENIfKAP7A&feature=youtube_gdata_player
― Franz Kappa (S-), Monday, 7 November 2011 21:31 (twelve years ago) link
Fair play. I'd like to listen to all of the Attic Tapes box set in a flotation tank.
― Conan The Asshander (Doran), Monday, 7 November 2011 21:38 (twelve years ago) link
When I went to listen to Chris Watson's massive installation in the Victorian palm house at Kew Gardens last year, it was so impressive I ended up staying there all day to listen to it as many times as I could. It's quite a famous greenhouse and I think it features in the 'Caterpillar' video by The Cure. He recorded 15 minutes at sunset and 15 minutes at sunrise of sound in a section of tropical rainforest.
If I understood the concept correctly he used 80 microphones to record the sound and then played it back through 80 speakers which were placed all around the palm house on every level, meaning you could walk through the field recording as it were. For example if you were walking along the gantries at the top of the Palm House you'd hear more bird noise than you would below where there would be more insect noise.
And on the last playback of the day I saw Watson sat under a palm and I was going to go over and say hello but he was with a clearly delighted lady companion so I just threw the horns at him instead. Discretely of course.
― Conan The Asshander (Doran), Monday, 7 November 2011 22:06 (twelve years ago) link
No mention of 'Voice of America', the Cabs first LP?
No! Mix-up is the first LP.
― unlistenable in philly (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 7 November 2011 22:53 (twelve years ago) link
btw my single trip to Kew Gardens was a wonderful day for me, a Watson sound installation in the palm house sounds just sublime.
― unlistenable in philly (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 7 November 2011 22:54 (twelve years ago) link
never heard fools game before.
love it.
as this is the era of CV i love, i really regret not getting the conform to deform boxset now.
― mark e, Tuesday, 8 November 2011 08:13 (twelve years ago) link
And "Voice of America" is actually their 3rd LP! Arguably their 4th if "Three Mantras" is considered an album.
― R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Friday, 11 November 2011 17:14 (twelve years ago) link
I consider "Three Mantras" an EP. A really long one, in the style of the day! But still an EP.
― unlistenable in philly (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Friday, 11 November 2011 17:30 (twelve years ago) link
Love aero's story upthread, sort of reminds me of the Alfred Molina scene in Boogie Nights, wonder how that would play with 'Gut Level' replacing 'Sister Christian'.
― The multi-talented F.R. David (Billy Dods), Friday, 11 November 2011 17:39 (twelve years ago) link
What's the latest on the reissues? I just realized it's my man Bill Nelson playing guitar on half the tracks on "Code" and in yhe video for "Here To Go". I love discovering new things about albums I've had for decades. I just gave it a spin and it's better than I remember, though I love it's predecessor much more.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Sunday, 22 January 2012 19:04 (twelve years ago) link
How has no one mentioned Mal's new band, Wrangler, with Benge (whose work with John Foxx as the Maths is fantastic). Their new album is one of the best new releases of the year, a great melding of Virgin era CV and modern sounds.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Monday, 29 September 2014 23:38 (nine years ago) link
Anyone have any thoughts on the various live albums released? I'm specifically interested in something good-sounding from their Virgin era (83-87).
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Tuesday, 6 September 2016 21:17 (seven years ago) link
Has there been any sign of any further early remasters after red Mecca came out a couple of years ago. Would love copies of those first couple of lps in better sound on cd.
― Stevolende, Tuesday, 6 September 2016 21:28 (seven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7K-vkaWB0g
Nobody captured noirish paranoia better than Cabaret Voltaire. Like a William Friedkin movie in a song.
― carpet_kaiser, Sunday, 16 July 2017 02:53 (six years ago) link
RHKs new album is very pre-Virgin era CV sounding.
― mark e, Sunday, 16 July 2017 17:04 (six years ago) link
I am listening to "Fool's Game" right now in honor of this revive
― sleeve, Sunday, 16 July 2017 18:11 (six years ago) link
Funny how the 12" mix of "Blue Heat" wound up on the CD when there never was a 12" released. I'm guessing it was planned but the label said no.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Monday, 17 July 2017 01:25 (six years ago) link
Every couple of years I revisit early Cabs, and it just sounds better each time. I mean, I've always dug the singles but today I spun "2x45" (love it), "Three Mantras" (Western Mantra is epic, Eastern not as much), "Red Mecca" (still warming to some of it) and rediscovered Stephen Mallinder's solo album "Pow-Wow Plus" which has some fantastic tracks that would fit well on 2x45. I even ordered the rare CD edition of the latter though I noted it removes two tracks from the original EP (1-20 and 1-34).
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Sunday, 3 September 2017 21:03 (six years ago) link
after a weekend of CV excess and a few glasses of wine I succumbed and ordered the Technology/'92 revision cd.I have avoided this release ever since it came out due to fear of altering the originals too much.so far I have to say I was a fool as I am loving the minimal CV styled electo-funk revisions.the music is very stripped back in comparison to the originals, but there is still that CV sound.something that after years of listening to late 80s/early 90s dance remixes I did not expect to be honest.that said, back in '92 I was not as open minded and would have probably hated this set.also, this now means I have a complete set of CVCD1-CVCD4 at long bloody last.
― mark e, Wednesday, 29 August 2018 19:40 (five years ago) link
I think it's just you and me on this thread, Mark. I wish I shared your enthusiasm for their 90s work but - nope.
I often have a compulsion to play "The Original Sound Of Sheffield 83-87" comp with all their amazing 12" versions. In that era, most 12" versions took a bit of the chorus and maybe one other section and just looped them but CV's extended versions are truly definitive.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Wednesday, 29 August 2018 20:17 (five years ago) link
my era has always been the 80s era (Crackdown > CODE).hence I held off from getting this '92 remix set for a very long time.having heard most of it now I still prefer the originals, but I will add it to my list of CV listens as it has a definite CV sound to it, albeit different to the albums/12" versions.as I said this weekend on twitter, the "83-87" compilation is by far the best compilation of their groove ever in my opinion.nothing surpasses those 12" versions.
― mark e, Wednesday, 29 August 2018 20:45 (five years ago) link
I have only the live album that comes with 'Deform .. ' boxset which was very much the late EMI era.the sound quality is debateable to say the least for a major label boxset.it sounds like a beefed up crowd based cassette recording as opposed to a mixing disc recording.hence I care not for it.a true stereo mixing desk recording of such a gig would be totally insane, but this recording is not that.thankfully the rest of the boxset easily makes up for the disappointment.
― mark e, Wednesday, 29 August 2018 21:00 (five years ago) link
damn just bumped western mantra it's so SICKKKKKKK
― kurt schwitterz, Wednesday, 29 August 2018 21:04 (five years ago) link
don't have that track in the archives.I have tried a few tracks pre Virgin over the years out of duty, and I even have VOA on vinyl, but its way too raw for me.
― mark e, Wednesday, 29 August 2018 21:07 (five years ago) link
xp Three Mantras is fantastic. Here's another great one that just might be my favorite CV track. I wish it was twice as long.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGnBWqK78G0
― nerve_pylon, Wednesday, 29 August 2018 21:51 (five years ago) link
*hears three mantras once*
this is the best band that ever existed
― american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 2 January 2020 05:43 (four years ago) link
really wish i had gotten into this band years ago though idk if i'd have been ready for them before now
― american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 2 January 2020 06:10 (four years ago) link
2x45 rocks my world
― american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 2 January 2020 06:11 (four years ago) link
I kinda want to know what you'd think of Mallinder's Pow Wow album (partly bcz it's the only CV I know, but I love it! and am planning a Cabs deep dive p soon) though I'm not sure if it's streaming anywhere
― PLEB AF (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 2 January 2020 06:17 (four years ago) link
Pow Wow = minor league Cabs.
― Soup on my lanyard (Tom D.), Thursday, 2 January 2020 07:32 (four years ago) link
Is there any likelihood that the early 3 piece lps are ever going to be remastered? I think Red Mecca was when it came out on vinyl with free cd but want the others in best sound. & I think any reissue has just been of the original cd. Do love that early stuff. Don't really like the 2 piece stuff too much. Though the bits of solo stuff from the 90s I have heard seemed ok.
― Stevolende, Thursday, 2 January 2020 08:31 (four years ago) link
I love "Western Mantra" but not so much "Eastern Mantra". The dynamism of the former really appeals to me whereas the drone of the latter is too dominant.
"2x45", with the brilliant "Yashar" is their transition from their early style towards something more accessible.
I only discovered "Pow Wow" a few years ago but it fits nicely in the period we're discussing. Minor league, for sure, but still has it's charms.
Stevo, do you think remastering of the early material will make a difference? Not exactly hifi recording gear in the first place.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Thursday, 2 January 2020 15:25 (four years ago) link
The duo records I return to the most are Drinking Gasoline and Microphonies, have s soft spot for other tracks but it's spotty from The Crackdown onwards.
― Maresn3st, Thursday, 2 January 2020 15:31 (four years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FstV3e7fqyo
been really transfixed by the live album hai! over the last few days
― american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 2 January 2020 16:06 (four years ago) link
that version of "diskono" feels both of and ahead of and beyond its time, which i suppose is the cabaret voltaire effect
― american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 2 January 2020 16:07 (four years ago) link
Brad u gotta check out Voice Of America! prob my favorite
― subway Stalinist (sleeve), Thursday, 2 January 2020 17:08 (four years ago) link
yeah i'll be doubling back to the early albums shortly, especially after hearing three mantras. i listened to mix-up a few times in college and iirc it just scared me lol
― american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 2 January 2020 17:26 (four years ago) link
i feel obligated to point out that Ekoplekz released an album called In Search of the Third Mantra this year.
― "Third of the Storms" Jazz (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Friday, 3 January 2020 12:12 (four years ago) link
RIYL cheap drum machines and retro plinky synths
― "Third of the Storms" Jazz (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Friday, 3 January 2020 12:13 (four years ago) link
a question. on the CV methodology: attic tapes (74/75) there are tracks called things like "Synthi AKS (Piece One)". did they have a AKS? weren't they crazily expensive at the time? (~£450 at launch which is well over £5k today)
(this is £6 on google play music store btw, £20 on amazon)
― koogs, Friday, 3 January 2020 12:30 (four years ago) link
I was listening to Ekoplekz thing just hours ago but the significance of the title didn't even occur to me!
I haven't heard Hai! before now. This appears to have been a non-trivial oversight. I'm clearly unworthy of my username.
― Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, 3 January 2020 13:25 (four years ago) link
Funny, it actually hit me after a recent Cab Volt jag. Always wondered where that third mantra got to.
did they have a AKS? weren't they crazily expensive at the time?
According to Wikipedia about £450 originally but worth thousands by the end of the 70s.
― "Third of the Storms" Jazz (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Friday, 3 January 2020 13:43 (four years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhds6KtWZHE
New (RHK-only) album coming this fall. Sounds pretty good, but also not that different from all of his other project names.
― Doctor Madame Frances Experimento, LLC", Wednesday, 19 August 2020 15:23 (three years ago) link
this new album sounds very Virgin era CV, and rather different to the solo RHK material that i have heard (URP Vol 1-3, Truckers, Sandoz, Dasein, Electronic Eye), mainly due to the drums and complete lack of techno basslines.
― mark e, Saturday, 21 November 2020 16:00 (three years ago) link
that said, i am only halfway through the album, so, things could change of course.but so far its hitting the spot for me.
― mark e, Saturday, 21 November 2020 16:02 (three years ago) link
It brings to mind the Drinking Gasoline EP. It's solid but I miss Mal, so there's Wrangler for that.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Saturday, 21 November 2020 18:39 (three years ago) link
I have only heard one track so far and that vaguely made me think of "Red Mecca". I miss Mal too and I do find it hard to really accept it as being CV without him.
― stirmonster, Saturday, 21 November 2020 18:42 (three years ago) link
GMB : exactly.it is very much of that era.there is little use of modern bass heavy production that i thought would be present.and while i get and understand the whole missing Mal thing, i subscribe to the CV (trio) -> CV (duo) -> CV (solo) path i have no issue with RHK using the name.as i said, this album sounds very different to a lot of the RHK solo material i have heard.(that said Dasein sounded like a CV album with its use of clipped guitars/samples)
― mark e, Saturday, 21 November 2020 19:16 (three years ago) link
Yes, it is fair enough really and I have engaged with several post Mal CV releases.
― stirmonster, Saturday, 21 November 2020 20:05 (three years ago) link