indian food vs. italian food

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mughal dynasty cooking is very meat and cream heavy (korma, for example) and is represented well in indian restaurants in the u.s.

horseshoe, Sunday, 6 November 2011 22:14 (twelve years ago) link

i have an indian coworker and his family is from gujarat and he is a vegetarian. he loves subway and candy!

tunnel joe (harbl), Sunday, 6 November 2011 22:14 (twelve years ago) link

well american restaurant korma is inauthentic but still tasty

horseshoe, Sunday, 6 November 2011 22:15 (twelve years ago) link

m bison: Because in "Italian" restaurants EVERYTHIGN HAS CHEESE except a plain dish of pasta with tomatoes diced on top of it, which the kitchen will grudgingly make for vegetarians and small food-intolerant children.

xp KORMA IS MY FAVORITE.

WE DO NOT HAVE "SECRET" "MEETINGS." I DO NOT HAVE A SECOND (Laurel), Sunday, 6 November 2011 22:15 (twelve years ago) link

aimless, there are lots of foods in the world not incorporated into italian food - 'perhaps the full creative power of the tradition' is not complete until they discover, idk, curry powder and twinkies. that argument is pretty nonsensical to me, unless there's some proof that meat is inherently some next-level sensation.

iatee, Sunday, 6 November 2011 22:16 (twelve years ago) link

this is so embarrassing i'm repping for muslim influence on indian culture it's like i've become my dad

horseshoe, Sunday, 6 November 2011 22:16 (twelve years ago) link

still might vote italian tbh

horseshoe, Sunday, 6 November 2011 22:17 (twelve years ago) link

another reason to vote Indian is that the Vaisnava cuisine of west Bengal makes do without onion & garlic and I guarantee even the most exacting insufferable foodie here would, having chowed on a good Vaisnava feast, declare it delicious and lacking nothing, whereas if you take onion & garlic away from Italian cuisine it's game over for Italian cuisine

unlistenable in philly (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 6 November 2011 22:17 (twelve years ago) link

I'm voting india, I can't trust a nation who changed their entire cuisine because of a conquistador

ASPIE Rocky (dayo), Sunday, 6 November 2011 22:18 (twelve years ago) link

oh well that's fucking every restaurant in America tho, we are talking about cuisines, not olive gardens/carrabas/macaroni grill

making vegan Italian food at home is hella easy

xp

2191: celebrate the m bisontennial (m bison), Sunday, 6 November 2011 22:18 (twelve years ago) link

another reason to vote Indian is that the Vaisnava cuisine of west Bengal makes do without onion & garlic and I guarantee even the most exacting insufferable foodie here would, having chowed on a good Vaisnava feast, declare it delicious and lacking nothing, whereas if you take onion & garlic away from Italian cuisine it's game over for Italian cuisine

― unlistenable in philly (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, November 6, 2011 5:17 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i see we are undertaking a rhetorical sleight-of-hand that allows us to divide "indian food" into region-specific cuisines but regards "italian food" as a monolith. i will not take part.

max, Sunday, 6 November 2011 22:19 (twelve years ago) link

in conclusion, shakespeare was likely a kashmiri muslim. /my dad

horseshoe, Sunday, 6 November 2011 22:20 (twelve years ago) link

is a national cuisine more than the sum of its parts?

2191: celebrate the m bisontennial (m bison), Sunday, 6 November 2011 22:21 (twelve years ago) link

only if it's the creamofsumyungguy

ASPIE Rocky (dayo), Sunday, 6 November 2011 22:22 (twelve years ago) link

in conclusion, shakespeare was likely a kashmiri muslim. /my dad

― horseshoe, Sunday, November 6, 2011 5:20 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i like this theory

max, Sunday, 6 November 2011 22:22 (twelve years ago) link

my dad has a lot of theories 4 u

horseshoe, Sunday, 6 November 2011 22:23 (twelve years ago) link

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9287652/images/kashmiri.jpg

max, Sunday, 6 November 2011 22:24 (twelve years ago) link

haha

horseshoe, Sunday, 6 November 2011 22:25 (twelve years ago) link

horsehoe's dad:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjWd9a8Ck8U

ceci n'est pas un nom d'affichage (ledge), Sunday, 6 November 2011 22:26 (twelve years ago) link

i see we are undertaking a rhetorical sleight-of-hand that allows us to divide "indian food" into region-specific cuisines but regards "italian food" as a monolith. i will not take part.

is there any region of Italy where the cuisine doesn't involve onions or garlic and is still flavorful? there's no question northern italian vs. southern italian is a whole range of tastes but the vaisnavas seriously elevate the game when they do their "take away our onion and garlic and we can still make stuff that will make you slap yourself" deal

unlistenable in philly (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 6 November 2011 22:27 (twelve years ago) link

omg ledge! that skit otm.

horseshoe, Sunday, 6 November 2011 22:28 (twelve years ago) link

i see we are undertaking a rhetorical sleight-of-hand that allows us to divide "indian food" into region-specific cuisines but regards "italian food" as a monolith. i will not take part.

In fairness India is like 10 times the size of Italy at the very least.

Matt DC, Sunday, 6 November 2011 22:36 (twelve years ago) link

I really love all the Italian staples obviously but when you go to one of the more authentic Italian restaurants in London the main fish/meat courses, while usually really great, aren't exactly anything you don't get in other cuisines.

Indian food > British Indian food > US Indian food >>>>>>> French Indian food. By contrast I don't think there such a variance in the quality of Italian food outside Italy.

Matt DC, Sunday, 6 November 2011 22:41 (twelve years ago) link

I'm going to vote Indian here but the playing field is considerably levelled here when you factor in all the awesome Italian desserts. Indian desserts are basically just a load of different uses for condensed milk.

Matt DC, Sunday, 6 November 2011 22:44 (twelve years ago) link

yeah not a fan of indian desserts beyond rasmalai. indian sweets are an abomination.

horseshoe, Sunday, 6 November 2011 22:45 (twelve years ago) link

Kulfi is great but Italy invented ice-cream so that's an automatic point in its favour.

Matt DC, Sunday, 6 November 2011 22:50 (twelve years ago) link

I don't understand gelato, can somebody explain gelato to me

ASPIE Rocky (dayo), Sunday, 6 November 2011 22:53 (twelve years ago) link

- tastes good

iatee, Sunday, 6 November 2011 22:55 (twelve years ago) link

every time I've thought, I would rather be eating ice cream

ASPIE Rocky (dayo), Sunday, 6 November 2011 22:56 (twelve years ago) link

overall indian much tastier to me but yeah dessert is a total victory for italy. what does one eat for breakfast in india???

buzza, Sunday, 6 November 2011 22:57 (twelve years ago) link

cheerios

2191: celebrate the m bisontennial (m bison), Sunday, 6 November 2011 22:58 (twelve years ago) link

or w/e you want to call early morning meal/snack

buzza, Sunday, 6 November 2011 22:58 (twelve years ago) link

aloo paratha
harissa
an omelet
cheerios

horseshoe, Sunday, 6 November 2011 22:59 (twelve years ago) link

Masala Dosa. Breakfast of Kings.

50,000 raspberries with the face of Peter Ndlovu (aldo), Sunday, 6 November 2011 22:59 (twelve years ago) link

paratha is a perfect food all by itself

horseshoe, Sunday, 6 November 2011 22:59 (twelve years ago) link

gonna open up an indian breakfast shop called harissa dalloway

ASPIE Rocky (dayo), Sunday, 6 November 2011 22:59 (twelve years ago) link

Had breakfast at an Indian wedding (in the uk), was sooo good. It was... curried stuff, y'know? Thank you, my incredible memory.

ceci n'est pas un nom d'affichage (ledge), Sunday, 6 November 2011 23:00 (twelve years ago) link

Breakfasts I had in India basically revolved around eggs, bread and fruit. Nothing to write home about.

Matt DC, Sunday, 6 November 2011 23:01 (twelve years ago) link

every time I've thought, I would rather be eating ice cream

I'm the total opposite, I realized recently that 'regular ice cream' is basically my least favorite types of frozen dairy dessert...prefer gelato, frozen yogurt, sherbert, custard

iatee, Sunday, 6 November 2011 23:01 (twelve years ago) link

least favorite type

iatee, Sunday, 6 November 2011 23:01 (twelve years ago) link

another day another poll

iatee, Sunday, 6 November 2011 23:02 (twelve years ago) link

Haggis pakora vs pizza crunch.

calumerio, Sunday, 6 November 2011 23:03 (twelve years ago) link

in the most one-note, reductionist, misguided, ignorant reading of this poll: curry w/ rice >>>>>>>>>>> pasta w/ tomato sauce.

ceci n'est pas un nom d'affichage (ledge), Sunday, 6 November 2011 23:16 (twelve years ago) link

Because of this thread I am totally sauteeing some garlic in butter and dumping in a can of tomatoes. Thank you, all.

WE DO NOT HAVE "SECRET" "MEETINGS." I DO NOT HAVE A SECOND (Laurel), Sunday, 6 November 2011 23:21 (twelve years ago) link

^ occams razor

xp

2191: celebrate the m bisontennial (m bison), Sunday, 6 November 2011 23:21 (twelve years ago) link

i am eating a tuna sandwich and its the first thing ive gotten to eat since about 8 am because i didnt get a lunch break and i kind of hate this poll and anyone who has the option to eat either of these cuisines right now (or really anything better than a soggy tuna sandwich at this moment in time). (though in the future whrn im hungry or trying to lose weight i might just look up old loujag posts about food and creaming.)

also : indian.

strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Sunday, 6 November 2011 23:55 (twelve years ago) link

every time I've thought, I would rather be eating ice cream

man I am often with you on food-related issues but what are you even on about here. gelato is a thing, is what. anybody who gets all "gelato is vastly superior to ice cream" is posing but it certainly isn't ice cream's inferior.

unlistenable in philly (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 7 November 2011 00:05 (twelve years ago) link

come with me to a state where they allow ice cream to be made with >20% milkfat, you'll change your tune

ASPIE Rocky (dayo), Monday, 7 November 2011 00:07 (twelve years ago) link

I concede that I am not familiar with the local ice cream milkfat laws

unlistenable in philly (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 7 November 2011 00:08 (twelve years ago) link

is that really a thing? tbf i cant even remember the last time i had ice cream.

strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Monday, 7 November 2011 00:10 (twelve years ago) link

Bigoli al Pomodoro della Mamma 15
Tomato sauce Mamma Anna style, if you don’t like it, please, call my mom @ 091-905581 and tell her. Good luck!

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Monday, 16 September 2013 23:33 (ten years ago) link

Haven't had much Italian food these past four years and not really missing it. As long as I can have a gluten-free pizza now and then and some limoncello, I'm good. I did miss tiramisu but it doesn't even occur to me anymore. Tiramisu just doesn't measure up to gajar halva.

*tera, Tuesday, 17 September 2013 05:14 (ten years ago) link

eight years pass...

Italians lol.

"He also disdains the pace of change driven by the internet. “On the web, everything is consumed quickly. Culture, on the other hand, is slowness and choice. I made my theory; it is the theory of the three risottos. Do you want to hear it?” He clears his throat. “If someone has never eaten a risotto in his life – and if they have never been to Sicily, they certainly never have eaten a good one – the first time they taste it, they can only say if they liked it or not. The second time, however, they can argue that it was better or worse than the first one. Only from the third time on can they have their own theory of risotto and, if they want, give advice on how it should be cooked. Culture, to me, is knowing things and having a choice.”"

https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2022/jul/26/photographer-ferdinando-scianna-interview-sicily-magnum

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 26 July 2022 10:40 (one year ago) link

if you take onion & garlic away from Italian cuisine it's game over for Italian cuisine

lol

doomposting is the new composting (PBKR), Tuesday, 26 July 2022 11:59 (one year ago) link


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